Swann used to comment on player stuff. Sticks had to get involved in the Fevola stuff. They still have the club's image and direction to protect. Off field incidents are part of their domain and decision process. I'd be happy for SOS to be the mouthpiece in his dedicated role. You can't suggest the president of the club can't have an opinion behind closed doors on player shenanigans though. It would be bad if he made public comment. The fact this is a rumour only 10 months later shows the club have done a reasonable job of keeping the leaks at bay. Elliot would have called a press conference to give his opinion on every misdemeanour.
Trigg and Le Gogo did not have to come out after two weeks of 2015 and say Club is in full rebuild - just a continuation of reactive thinking and posturing - Kernahan/Elliot references merely reinforce the history of Carlton fail as far as running a professional organisation goes- the cult of personality starts at the top - this must end - supporters aren't members because they like management or a Board members - we are member DESPITE the serial incompetence of a third rate management and cultural regime.
The problem is that Carlton is a closed shop run by a bunch of nuff nuffs - not for members. I look at the Board and see a bunch of second rate property developers and private company crooks in Visy and Gambling crapola Mathieson and thier ****n progeny /sycophants and nepotistic appointments - none of the Board members would get a seat on one of my Boards- our Board does not attract talent - because it is loaded with dross - who sit there because they have drip fed the Club with bits of cash - we dont need cash - we need members and members wont come for as long as they make knee jerk BS decisions like sacking Ratten and hiring an old has been like Malthouse- who was appointed by his mate Swan and who picked up a Thomas on big dollars who cant run or kick anymore- it is a total disgrace what has been allowed to happen at Carlton.
They attempted to manage expectations. We expected to be better than our start to the season showed and the supporter base was starting to melt down. It is easy in hindsight to say that staying silent was the thing to do but there was a big rush of 'right, we said it, what do we have to do to get it right' afterwards. That was circuit breaker #1 and it was supposed to take heat off the club and the coach.
Problem was the performances got worse and Mick went into self preservation mode which totally make the rebuild announcement explode in the club's face.
Trigg and the board took a stance of greater communication, more inclusion, more information late last year. Supporters were upset and looking to the club to make them feel better about something. The club went 'holy shit, we are terrible but we have to offer a future' and so went proactive.
Everybody here knows they didn't want to here ... 'we need to work harder', 'the opposition were very good', 'we have had a much better week on the track so are confident on a better performance' rhetoric coming out every week. That stuff alienates us but also makes us think the club have no idea where we are at.
Some say, bugger the supporters, they do not need to know things and the club should keep it in house while others scream for more info. Damned either way. You need members and lying to people and saying it's a slow start to the season, we'll come right so jump on board, doesn't cut it.
Look ODN I don't have a problem with your logic or reasoning or explanation - it is all pretty much correct
but personally I am tired of seeing the outcomes of poor decisions shoved down members throats and sweetened by BS PC correct gobbledegook. How can the Club end up with so many players who don't want to play for the Club??!!!
i'll tell you why - because the Club has played favorites with some players and treated other players like absolute CRAP. Personally I'm am ecstatic that Judd is now GONE- his messiah hiring cost us untold damage- because his ability allowed poor recruitment/poor development/poor drafting/poor list management to hide behind his talent. There has been little to no accountability for the epic fail of basic management practice at Carlton for over a decade.
It only blew up because the coach immediately realised he would have no way of proving himself to get an extension and supposedly because some precious players found it hard to concentrate on playing because a rebuild means uncertainty for their futures, as if getting smashed every week hadn't already threatened those futures. Interesting that some players have lifted since the coaching change with the rebuild still on.
I believe the club had a dilemma, am still not convinced whether the rebuild announcement was a good thing or a bad thing but I'm prepared not to judge even if they did the wrong thing for the right reason. I know receiving shock therapy to manage my expectations early has helped to limit my frustration this year. Point is, these things are not so clear cut for all. One man's stuff up makes perfect sense to another. Depends on your particular slant.
It all blew up because Malthouse had no game plan - never did, he only had a retirement savings plan to look after - he is probably the most self centered ego maniac that AFL has ever seen - apart from Sheedy.
Malthouse oversaw the complete decimation of our list and a total destruction of any player camaraderie. We ar now in a position which may force teh Club to trade blokes like Kreuzer - on top of losing Henderson/Yarran - after the loss of Betts/Garlett and a bunch of other experinced bodies- in the hope f what?
Picking up some magic in one year's draft?
Forget about it - teh Club has to go through years of building and that is fine.
But lets stop being stupid.
If Henderson wants out and Yarran wants out- well let the club play hard ball with both and not be a soft touch for top up specialists lie Geelong and Hawthorn - we have become a laughing stock.
Time for Carlton to get smarter- and for blokes like Trigg and Le go go- it means - do your jobs - increase membership and get better sponsors and slowly professionalise the organisation - whilst you just shut up.
Bring on a coach who understands that modern football is a 30+ player game- and there is no room for prima donnas. Carlton has to go Blue collar - ditch teh fancy haircuts and half steppers - you knwo who they are ODN I can name a few I'd trade ahead of Kreuzer.