Society/Culture Christchurch Mosque mass shooting

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Weren't the car/s also loaded up with IEDs?
If they only had cars loaded with explosives than far fewer if any people would've died at all since they never went off

Giving them readymade firearms make it far easier for these people to shoot up a storm

I blame America and their inaction on their own mass shootings tbh, copycats are bound to keep popping up, not just in the US but all over the world. Crazies speak to crazies
 

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This is pseudo-scientific rubbish that denies the differences that actually exist in human kind across the genetic landscape of the planet.
No it's not. The accepted science is that 'race' is a social construct and it holds no taxonomic meaning in science.

That might make you sad, but its the accepted science.

Or maybe Taylor on bigfooty knows more than science. Not quite sure.
 

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No it's not. The accepted science is that 'race' is a social construct and it holds no taxonomic meaning in science.

That might make you sad, but its the accepted science.

Or maybe Taylor on bigfooty knows more than science. Not quite sure.
Those particular and specific medical conditions unique/much higher incidence to particular races of human must be cultural then.

It's not. Humans are genetically diverse and different, not drastically but we absolutely are.

It doesn't suit the "everyone is identical" ideology, sorry. It also doesn't diminish the value of anyone.
 
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Those particular and specific medical conditions unique/much higher incidence to particular races of human must be cultural then.

It's not. Humans are genetically diverse and different, not drastically but we absolutely are.

It doesn't suit the "everyone is identical" ideology, sorry. It also doesn't diminish the value of anyone.
No, that's not science.

Try again. Go away and Google 'race' 'science' and 'homo sapiens' before you pander factually incorrect shit like 'biological race is accepted science'.

It isn't. Biologists, geneticists and anthropologists are largely in near universal agreement that it's a social construct.
 

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If they only had cars loaded with explosives than far fewer if any people would've died at all since they never went off

Giving them readymade firearms make it far easier for these people to shoot up a storm

I blame America and their inaction on their own mass shootings tbh, copycats are bound to keep popping up, not just in the US but all over the world. Crazies speak to crazies
I read that the police found and disarmed them before they were set off.

Incidentally, I'm not disputing your suggestion that this type of attack will be much harder to run with decent gun control laws; as will much other deadly violence. They are crucial to modern societies.

I am just saying that where there is a will there is a way for terrorists, guns or no guns; witness Oklahoma and New York.
 

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I've heard it is now illegal to share it in NZ. They do have some specific laws regarding such things.
Technically, it's a "snuff" film, so trading it would be illegal.

I doubt watching it from a server in a legal jurisdiction would be illegal, and I pewrsonally challenge the notion of banning it from circulation. Let everyone see the madness that arises from perverted politics.
 

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Where have you seen this?
Twitter is one of the most politically-oriented platforms there is on social media, and there's and abundance of examples on there from people labelling Candace Owens responsible because she was named as a troll in the manifesto to people continuing to push the "PewDiePie is a white nationalist" narrative because of the terrorist using the meme as he started the rampage. Every conservative pundit - particularly American - who has expressed their condolences has got replies trying to blame them and/or their political POV. This is the current climate from both sides, and it's shit.

There's already articles talking about this problem and the issues with media narratives:
https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/03/15/how-the-christchurch-shooter-played-the-worlds-media/
 

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I've actually cringed reading your posts in this thread and you're coming across as being unstable. I hope for your sake you've merely had a few too many.

Enjoy.
Lol, good one Cocka, no need to get nasty.The point is we live in a muticultural society now, you can't go back in time now so get used to it.Thank god for the Italians and their coffee I say as well as the other great food from other countries .Dont believe everything you read in the Murdoch news mate, they're just appealing to the lowest common denominator to sell papers.
 

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No, that's not science.

Try again. Go away and Google 'race' 'science' and 'homo sapiens' before you pander factually incorrect shit like 'biological race is accepted science'.

It isn't. Biologists, geneticists and anthropologists are largely in near universal agreement that it's a social construct.
I was arguing that humans are different and I'm not incorrect about that.
 

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I read that the police found and disarmed them before they were set off.

Incidentally, I'm not disputing your suggestion that this type of attack will be much harder to run with decent gun control laws; as will much other deadly violence. They are crucial to modern societies.

I am just saying that where there is a will there is a way for terrorists, guns or no guns; witness Oklahoma and New York.
Crazies will always do crazies, but at the very least we must try to minimize the damage they can cause and prevent them from easy access to carry out their crazy plans. If you give an assault weapon to your run of the mill crazy ranting lunatic in the CBD then he becomes a terrorist
 

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This is pseudo-scientific rubbish that denies the differences that actually exist in human kind across the genetic landscape of the planet.

Otherwise there wouldn't be certain racial groups at higher risk of developing certain and specific medical conditions.

Denying the reality doesn't bring us closer. We are different and that doesn't reduce the value of any.
At a SOCIETAL level the differences are moot - that's the argument. Not at a genetic or cellular level but at a SOCIETAL level. We all live under the roof of the Earth, we break it down into different nations, states, neighbourhoods, homes, but at some point we are all sharing the one Earth.

We must co-exist.
 

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It takes a real sick person to be ok with doing what that guy did. In some ways, I think anyone who self identifies as a white nationalist should be made to watch the video in detail. And the footage of witnesses and victims in the aftermath. Have a look at what this shit actually looks like - not a movie or video game. In some ways it's kinda like how I think anyone who eats meat should slaughter their own food at least once so they can appreciate where their supermarket good comes from.
Or it would just confirm. ISIS used their sick videos and recruited many via them. Don't think extremists on either side can be classified as 'normal' just sick.
The aftermath and even today seeing people lay flowers on the site was heartbreaking for me.

I haven't seen an actual slaughter but as a child we had a lamb that was then slaughtered by a neighbour and I didn't eat meat for a year.
 

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At a SOCIETAL level the differences are moot - that's the argument. Not at a genetic or cellular level but at a SOCIETAL level. We all live under the roof of the Earth, we break it down into different nations, states, neighbourhoods, homes, but at some point we are all sharing the one Earth.

We must co-exist.
As long as the local culture values society members the same, yes, I think all people can live together.
 

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Crazies will always do crazies, but at the very least we must try to minimize the damage they can cause and prevent them from easy access to carry out their crazy plans. If you give an assault weapon to your run of the mill crazy ranting lunatic in the CBD then he becomes a terrorist
True, but we've still had a couple of centuries of terrorist bombings across the world.
 

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Do you truly believe that you speak for "society"?

Are you even slightly aware of your megalomania?
Snake you're an old man with old ideas, the kids of today have no problem tolerating all types of people.Live and let live mate.What's the big deal about transvestites and multi-sexual people, I don't give a shit what they do.Who gives a shit if you have to put a third toilet in a school ?That is unless your an intolerant 'religious' person quoting from a book written by 25 different people 2000 years ago!
 

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True, but we've still had a couple of centuries of terrorist bombings across the world.
We can stop it from happening at New Zealand at the very least, their gun laws surprise me tbh.

We cannot stop all terrorist attacks from happening, but we can stop some and that's already a good outcome compare to what we have currently
 

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We can stop it from happening at New Zealand at the very least, their gun laws surprise me tbh.

We cannot stop all terrorist attacks from happening, but we can stop some and that's already a good outcome compare to what we have currently
The united states is an interesting experiment in gun control compared to carry areas. The gun free zones have the mass shootings.
 

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Just remember it's guns people that was wielded by an individual intent on great numbers to be destroyed. ..
Guns were one weapon...the mind the next...the location as well...the society i.e. religious and then finally
The whole desire/need to be seen/remembered
 

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Lol, good one Cocka, no need to get nasty.The point is we live in a muticultural society now, you can't go back in time now so get used to it.Thank god for the Italians and their coffee I say as well as the other great food from other countries .Dont believe everything you read in the Murdoch news mate, they're just appealing to the lowest common denominator to sell papers.
I don't watch or read mainstream media. They're all left wing nutjobs like you whose sole purpose is to brainwash people and tell them what they should and shouldn't do.
 
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