News & Events Christchurch shooting

[Jobe Watson]

How would knowing what he looks like as opposed to knowing his name and the crimes he will be charged with make a difference? Usually when court grant a suppression order that includes the name. Also as stated no order was requested or granted.

People remember faces more easily. If the jury members see his face and think "hey, that's the guy from the video where 50 people were killed on camera" then that wouldn't be fair to the accused. The jury can only convict on the evidence presented in court, not their preconceived ideas or biases.

 

[Biggy_Boy]

People remember faces more easily. If the jury members see his face and think "hey, that's the guy from the video where 50 people were killed on camera" then that wouldn't be fair to the accused. The jury can only convict on the evidence presented in court, not their preconceived ideas or biases.

But they're going to know who he is when they're in court hearing about what he's done. "Oh, he's that guy who has been constantly in the news these past few months for slaughtering 50 Muslims. Yeah, I reckon he's probably guilty given there's a video of him doing it."

 

[perthblue]

Arnie being egged > Anning

 

[Jobe Watson]

But they're going to know who he is when they're in court hearing about what he's done. "Oh, he's that guy who has been constantly in the news these past few months for slaughtering 50 Muslims. Yeah, I reckon he's probably guilty given there's a video of him doing it."

And that's the issue when picking a jury: finding people who have no bias. Yeah, obviously you aren't going to find many people who don't know who the guy is and what he's done, but the jury has to be as impartial as possible. Maybe some people have been out of the country. Maybe some don't watch the news or use the internet. Maybe some know of the crime but haven't seen the video where the guy's face is shown.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

No person in New Zealand has been sentenced to life without the possibility of parole. You'd imagine Tarrant will be the first.

The really bad ones just get deported to Port Hedland don't they?

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

Lol we’re not a monoculture. Are all Victorians anti-vaxxers from Monbulk? Did you all vote for Fred Nile?

Nile is a Cockroach, any proud Cane Toad should know that.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

Ardern has sought advice on deporting him back to Aus, remains to be seen if this happens.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12213531

Should be after his sentence is completed, lord knows we've got enough of theirs locked up over here that we're paying for.

 

[Chief]

Nile is a Cockroach, any proud Cane Toad should know that.

Same diff.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

Arnie being egged > Anning

I really don't understand what point you're trying to make by putting this up.

 

[6yearsold]

has anyone else noticed the hairpiece tarrant's court appointed lawyer was wearing last night on the nine news?



I should add that tarrant sacked him and said he would represent himself.

 

[perthblue]

I really don't understand what point you're trying to make by putting this up.

lol

 

[mouncey2franklin]

Apparently Telstra has blocked websites like 4chan, supposedly because those sites link to the footage of the event.

Yeah, wasn't it livestreamed on Facebook? They aren't banning Facebook, are they?

What a disgrace.

 

[perthblue]

Apparently Telstra has blocked websites like 4chan, supposedly because those sites link to the footage of the event.

Yeah, wasn't it livestreamed on Facebook? They aren't banning Facebook, are they?

What a disgrace

Don't think anybody monitors the livestreams.

Unless you're streaming a pay-per-view event for free.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

lol

Are you laughing because you're a bit thick? The egg aside, how is it even close to being similar?

 

[perthblue]

Are you laughing because you're a bit thick? The egg aside, how is it even close to being similar?

Yeah that is why i'm laughing

 

[Jobe Watson]

Apparently Telstra has blocked websites like 4chan, supposedly because those sites link to the footage of the event.

Yeah, wasn't it livestreamed on Facebook? They aren't banning Facebook, are they?

What a disgrace.

Yep. Just tried to go on 4chan and it returns an error. KiwiFarms the same.

4chan is a cesspit of the internet but blocking access to it is some China-level bullshit censorship. So what if the video is on there? NZ law regarding sharing of the video doesn't apply to us.

EDIT: Liveleak, Encyclopedia Dramatica also blocked.

 

[11sjw]

Yep. Just tried to go on 4chan and it returns an error. KiwiFarms the same.

4chan is a cesspit of the internet but blocking access to it is some China-level bullshit censorship. So what if the video is on there? NZ law regarding sharing of the video doesn't apply to us.

EDIT: Liveleak, Encyclopedia Dramatica also blocked.

Using a VPN might help

 

[6yearsold]

But that's bullshit. Anning flew down for this event on the taxpayer. So it is a space of public discourse.

It is well enshrined in law that you are entitled to self defence within proportion.

The violence Anning's thugs meted out to the kid in every sense was disproportionate.

- They outnumbered him significantly
- They were much bigger than him
- They would have known very quickly that he was unarmed, and that he'd actually caused no injury to Anning
- They continued their assault long after it became apparent the kid was no threat

To answer your question, yes, what the kid did was assault. Albeit very low levl, but still assault.

They should all be up in court to answer for this - political violence has no place in a democracy.

What if Fraser egged Sarah Hanson-Young in the head, would that be a higher level assault?

 

[Jobe Watson]

Using a VPN might help

It's easy to get around these bans. It's more worrying that ISPs think they get to play judge, jury and executioner block access to websites that don't even display illegal content.

 

[Gough]

Yep. Just tried to go on 4chan and it returns an error. KiwiFarms the same.

4chan is a cesspit of the internet but blocking access to it is some China-level bullshit censorship. So what if the video is on there? NZ law regarding sharing of the video doesn't apply to us.

EDIT: Liveleak, Encyclopedia Dramatica also blocked.

Do you think you have some sort of right to watch 40 people being killed in cold blood.

 

[Jobe Watson]

Do you think you have some sort of right to watch 40 people being killed in cold blood.

Actually, yes.

 

[Scotland]

I don't believe 4chan should be blocked but Facebook not. The shooter Facebook live streamed the attack, he didn't 4chan live stream it. I've never actually accessed 4chan and have only seen screenshots of its content, so I don't know exactly how it works but I don't like the idea of banning platforms.

 

[Del191229]

Same diff.

For someone who makes his living off a game invented in Victoria, no, you owe us an apology for that.

 

[Del191229]

What if Fraser egged Sarah Hanson-Young in the head, would that be a higher level assault?

No.

 

[Del191229]

Do you think you have some sort of right to watch 40 people being killed in cold blood.

Do you think you have the right to tell people they can't?

It is a historic document now.