Any info on the 2nd mosque shooting ?
I heard like 40 or so of the deaths were at the 1st Mosque and the rest were at the second one.
There are still many critically injured, so the death could rise.
I hope everyone injured pulls through!
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Any info on the 2nd mosque shooting ?
Do you see his face?
I get the New Zealand government want to keep everything as quiet as possible, but it's strange how nothing has been made of this.
I get the New Zealand government want to keep everything as quiet as possible, but it's strange how nothing has been made of this.
You do know that most muslims are peaceful human beings, right?
He seemed quite content with dying or getting caught judging by the manifesto. He said he wouldn't resist police efforts to arrest him, and that seemed to hold true.I doubt he would have expected to get away with it though, he was either going to be arrested or shot dead himself.
The video that was posted shows him going very quickly in his car. I can't help think he was driving to the 2nd mosque.
I thought I read a quote from a New Zealand paper that said that the guy who returned fire at the 2nd mosque was actually combating two people, and he told police that they fled in a silver Subaru. Would make sense... 4 people were arrested and 1 was released - possibly the prayer-goer who fought back.He seemed quite content with dying or getting caught judging by the manifesto. He said he wouldn't resist police efforts to arrest him, and that seemed to hold true.
He was.
I believe the sequence of events goes:
-He goes to the first mosque, which he records
-He drives to the second mosque; on his way there, his camera stops recording
-He shoots a smaller number of people there because, apparently, a mosque goer returned fire and the gunman fled
-He gets arrested on his way to the third mosque
Right, and there was the video floating around of two guys with guns at what I presume was the Linwood mosque. So the first guy probably wasn't at the second mosque, it was those others.I thought I read a quote from a New Zealand paper that said that the guy who returned fire at the 2nd mosque was actually combating two people, and he told police that they fled in a silver Subaru. Would make sense... 4 people were arrested and 1 was released - possibly the prayer-goer who fought back.
I'm sure all the information will come to hand in the coming days.
It's a stupid phrase. All deliberate cold blooded acts of murder are about hate. If he was killing people due to religion rather then because he simply wanted to see people die it makes it no less or more bad. Thus its redundant to how extreme an act we see it as.A hate crime is a crime that targets a person or people because of their race, nationality, religion, culture, etc. Someone who goes on an indiscriminate killing spree in the street is not committing a hate crime as we understand the term to mean.
These perpetrators are committing a hate crime because their actions were motivated by hate of a religion and they specifically targeted adherents of that religion.
He seemed quite content with dying or getting caught judging by the manifesto. He said he wouldn't resist police efforts to arrest him, and that seemed to hold true.
He was.
I believe the sequence of events goes:
-He goes to the first mosque, which he records
-He drives to the second mosque; on his way there, his camera stops recording
-He shoots a smaller number of people there because, apparently, a mosque goer returned fire and the gunman fled
-He gets arrested on his way to the third mosque
You can almost guranteee from now on that there will be mosque attendees that will be bearing arms. That has to be a concern also on so many levels.
Why is that a concern?
The shooter is doing white supremecy signs in court.
They should have just put a bullet in his head.
Im worried he wont suffer enough, as arent NZ prisons quite humane?
Why would you watch it?
How humane do think your average Maori prisoner will be to a White Supremacist ?The shooter is doing white supremecy signs in court.
They should have just put a bullet in his head.
Im worried he wont suffer enough, as arent NZ prisons quite humane?
Aside from law enforcement, I dont want civilians to be walking around or traveling with weapons.
it's crazy how many people on my fb feed won't condemn white supremacy, it's all 'what about when ISIS kills us??'
it's still 'us against them' - tit for tat on which side has the higher body count.
we, as white people, have an obligation to reject white supremacy, the same way muslim people must reject islamic extremism.
The person that did this wants to create division, he is succeeding.
I also think it should be illegal to share the footage of the shooting anywhere, all it will do is fuel the fantasies of other psychos, and his face and name shouldn't be anywhere - his trial should be suppressed - respect the dead by ignoring the evil troll that killed them.
he deserves worse than whatever he gets, but the most fitting punishment for a person like that is to deny the attention they crave, to forget them.
Welcome to one of the top arguments US gun nuts put forward.In America id want to be armed because everyone else is.
Doesn't deserve the luxury of prison. Should be left to rot in the middle of nowhere.I don't really care about how much the creature suffers, he will spend the rest of his days in prison which is enough for me.
I am more concerned about him getting his way. He wanted to exploit divisions, escalate cultural conflicts. I hope there are no copycats, no revenge attacks from the other side, and that unity in the face of evil is the priority.