Society/Culture Circumcision

[CM86]

I think it's quite harsh at this stage to be commenting on the size of a guys wang.
Micro is such a harsh word.

So saith the voice of tormented experience!

 

[Gus Poyet]

So saith the voice of tormented experience!

I have a very attractive ****.

The wife wants it bronzed should ever I kick the bucket.

 

[blackcat]

I think it's quite harsh at this stage to be commenting on the size of a guys wang. Give the dude at least a few years to see if he lengthens out a bit.

Micro is such a harsh word.

So saith the voice of tormented experience!

agree, spoken like someone with a small ****

 

[blackcat]

I have a very attractive ****.

The wife wants it bronzed should ever I kick the bucket.

pictures or it did not happen

 

[Gus Poyet]

pictures or it did not happen

Well I'll tell her to email pics you when I shit the tin.

She's a good sort so you can have a go when I go.

 

[CM86]

Well I'll tell her to email pics you when I shit the tin.

She's a good sort so you can have a go when I go.

Fantastic! A bit old, but 0 Ks on the clock*!


*insinuation

 

[CM86]

agree, spoken like someone with a small ****

Don't be so abrasive!!



Save that for the repetition..

 

[CM86]

I have a very attractive ****.

I don't think you are taking the colloquialism "Gus, You're a bit of a dick", correctly.

 

[Gus Poyet]

Fantastic! A bit old, but 0 Ks on the clock*!


*insinuation

Sorry, offer only for blackcat. You'd never have a chance of pulling a hot bird like my MILF.

 

[Gus Poyet]

I don't think you are taking the colloquialism "Gus, You're a bit of a dick", correctly.

If you had one as attractive as mine you'd be proud of it too.

 

[Hipster Doofus]

Mine's uncut, couldn't care if people wants theirs snipped or not. I'm happy with mine and I'm sure helmets are happy with theirs.

 

[rodney86]

As a guy who got the cut in my 20's, I really don't see there being that much difference between them.

 

[swingdog]

Why do Jewish women like men circumcised?

Because a Jewish woman always wants 20% off.

 

[Lester Burnham]

How is this not child abuse?

There is still anger in a remote Northern Territory community after three teenage boys had to be medically evacuated following an Indigenous initiation ceremony which went horribly wrong.​

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The boys were part of a group of around 20 who were circumcised two days before Christmas near the small Gulf of Carpentaria town of Borroloola, 700 kilometres east of Darwin.​

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They were so badly cut during the procedure that they had to be medically evacuated to Darwin for urgent treatment.​

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Local ambulance driver William Miller arrived at the ceremony to find his 17-year-old grandson Bryce severely injured.​

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"I took one look at him and he was sitting in a pool of blood... and that really hurt me, that did," he said.​

http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/20943695...e-ends-with-three-boys-airlifted-to-hospital/

Is female genital mutilation in indigenous societies still 'a parental decision on how to bring up the kids'?

 

[Kynge of Begrem]

How is this not child abuse?
*snip*
Is female genital mutilation in indigenous societies still 'a parental decision on how to bring up the kids'?

Of course it is child abuse without question.

 

[clogged]

Barbaric ritual. But I'm not sure a 17 year old constitutes child abuse.

 

[Lester Burnham]

Barbaric ritual. But I'm not sure a 17 year old constitutes child abuse.

It happens to younger boys too.

THREE teenage Aboriginal boys turned up in the grounds of the bush hospital on December 30. They stood outside with blood pouring down their legs.​

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They were too embarrassed to go inside, fearing they would encounter a female nurse or doctor.​

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They had just been through a circumcision ceremony in a camp outside Tennant Creek, 500km north of Alice Springs. It had gone badly wrong. The boys, who had received no anaesthetic, were left mutilated by elders who it is suspected were drinking when they performed the initiation ritual.​

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The Northern Territory Health Department confirmed the boys had presented with severe lacerations but refused to give their ages.​

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It is understood the boys were 16 or under, which should have prompted the hospital to report the incident to police. Police were not told. The three boys were in hospital for three nights before being released back into the community.​

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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/li...inal-communities/story-e6frf019-1225817876641

Drunk old men causing severe lacerations to young boys' penises should be a police matter.

 

[clogged]

Definitely, although I'm not sure why it's allowed to happen to babies in Western societies.

Reading back through this thread, I can't believe that women liking circumcised penises is reason given for the practice. Imagine if men liking its appearance was stated as a reason for female circumcision?

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

I have a very attractive ****.

The wife wants it bronzed should ever I kick the bucket.

At least it wouldn't be stuffed in a jar full of formaldehyde like poor old Rasputin's.

http://metro.co.uk/2009/10/01/is-this-the-foot-long-preserved-penis-of-rasputin-454549/

 

[Lester Burnham]

Definitely, although I'm not sure why it's allowed to happen to babies in Western societies.

The normal rules of civilised society are overlooked if it's 'cultural'.

Reading back through this thread, I can't believe that women liking circumcised penises is reason given for the practice

If that is a claimed reason, it's nonsense.

In the two cases I have quoted it might not just be circumcision we are talking about. It could be Penile incision. (Don't look while you're having your lunch)

 

[clogged]

If that is a claimed reason, it's nonsense.

Quite often claimed, and on the first page of this thread. Women often express they prefer the cut ones. Which is weird, because every now and then there seems to be a moral panic about labioplasty - a procedure done on consenting women!

In the two cases I have quoted it might not just be circumcision we are talking about. It could be Penile incision. (Don't look while you're having your lunch)

I won't. I saw a link to Fournier's gangrene recently, that was enough for a few years.

 

[Kynge of Begrem]

It happens to younger boys too.

THREE teenage Aboriginal boys turned up in the grounds of the bush hospital on December 30. They stood outside with blood pouring down their legs.​

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They were too embarrassed to go inside, fearing they would encounter a female nurse or doctor.​

​

They had just been through a circumcision ceremony in a camp outside Tennant Creek, 500km north of Alice Springs. It had gone badly wrong. The boys, who had received no anaesthetic, were left mutilated by elders who it is suspected were drinking when they performed the initiation ritual.​

​

The Northern Territory Health Department confirmed the boys had presented with severe lacerations but refused to give their ages.​

​

It is understood the boys were 16 or under, which should have prompted the hospital to report the incident to police. Police were not told. The three boys were in hospital for three nights before being released back into the community.​

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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/li...inal-communities/story-e6frf019-1225817876641

Drunk old men causing severe lacerations to young boys' penises should be a police matter.

It shoule be a police matter regardless of who does it or their level of intoxication, unless, it is a medical necessity.

 

[tesseract]

WOMEN DOING IT TO WOMEN

Let’s try another one. Female Genital Mutilation (FGM) = patriarchy = rape culture. Except for one teency weency little problem. It’s women doing it to women.

On their Fact sheet No2 41, the World Health Organisation [8] regurgitates the predictable rhetoric linking female genital mutilation (FGM) to… you guessed it… The Patriarchy:

FGM is recognized internationally as a violation of the human rights of girls and women. It reflects deep-rooted inequality between the sexes, and constitutes an extreme form of discrimination against women.

Writing for the Huffington Post, Hilary Burrage launches The Feminist Statement on FGM [9] beginning with this:

The basic premise of our statement is this:

Patriarchal oppression is the bedrock of female genital mutilation (FGM) and related harmful traditional practices… female genital mutilation (FGM) in all its forms is cruelty and abuse.

Under her subheading Powerful invisible interests, you begin to suspect that sunlight is beginning to penetrate into the dankest, densest, darkest recesses of her atrophied brain, when she acknowledges that “… some of those who benefit are the grandes dames of the mutilating communities – the secret Sande Society women who control or perpetrate the torture.” But just as you begin to suspect that Burrage might be capable of at least some semblance of a snail’s level of rational thought, out trots the predictable “patriarchal conspiracy” theory:

But always behind them stand the shadowy men who pull the real strings: the men who prefer child brides, the men who sell their barely teenage daughters, freshly mutilated, into marital slavery, the men who decree, perhaps via their womenfolk, that ‘unclean’ (uncircumcised) women are unfit to be members of the community.

The reality, however, does not sit so comfortably with the “it’s the patriarchy stoopid” narrative. Chapter 6 of Jomo Kenyatta’s book (1965) [10] explains that it is female surgeons performing the clitoridectomy, and female sponsors and female villagers participating in the celebrations. As per Kenyatta’s example, FGM is a girl’s rite of passage into adulthood (for which an equivalent ritual exists for boys):

The initiation of both sexes is the most important custom among the Gikuyu. It is looked upon as a deciding factor in giving a boy or girl the status of manhood or womanhood in the Gikuyu community. This custom is adhered to by the vast majority of African peoples and is found in almost every part of the continent.

You will likely see the same pattern of FGM pretty much wherever you look: it’s women doing it to girls.

I’ve done considerable research on FGM towards my publications, and at no stage have I ever found a single reference suggesting that it was a man or cabal of men forcing FGM on women or girls. In the strictest terms, FGM appears to be “women’s business”… a women’s-only sacred ritual. In a very real sense, FGM generally appears to be a celebration of what it means to be a woman (this is not to condone it… I personally find the mutilation of perfectly healthy body-parts objectionable, but let us call it for what it is… FGM is not intentional abuse but another culture’s form of celebration). As a celebration of tribal girls’ rites of passage into adulthood, FGM is part of a ceremonial process to which men are neither invited nor wanted (boys and men celebrate their own rites of passage). There might be exceptions, but I personally have never found any.

And in the meantime, feminists’ interference in the traditions of cultures that they know nothing about amounts to an especially toxic kind of cultural interference, especially when you factor in the forced circumcision campaigns in Africa [11]… some of us might be reminded of the Christian crusades [12].

What part of “women doing it to women” do these freaks not understand?

http://www.avoiceformen.com/gynarch...iarchy-discussion-its-the-matriarchy-stoopid/

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[Theseventhhamster]

Must suck being a straight guy who hates women.

 

[Tas]

God created man in his image.... except for this floppy piece of skin, lets remove that.