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Willow weeps

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Please remind me Shelly. It's been a while. I recall you have some expertise in this area.
Do men that want to look more feminine, sometimes take some kind of steroids to enhance their man boobs?

Relevant to this case in reports of the accused and his dress-up tendencies.
Yep, & some just use the old chicken fillet silicone things that some females with smaller boobs use
 

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Please remind me Shelly. It's been a while. I recall you have some expertise in this area.
Do men that want to look more feminine, sometimes take some kind of steroids to enhance their man boobs?

Relevant to this case in reports of the accused and his dress-up tendencies.
Anti-androgenic meds are sometimes prescribed by a psychiatrist to curb nastier sexual impulses, a side affect can be man boobs. Given the history we know he has now, my guess MIGHT be his was on prescription.

Same with the hormonal imbalance caused by anabolic steroids.
 

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Anti-androgenic meds are sometimes prescribed by a psychiatrist to curb nastier sexual impulses, a side affect can be man boobs. Given the history we know he has now, my guess MIGHT be his was on prescription.

Same with the hormonal imbalance caused by anabolic steroids.
I can only go by what I know my transgender friends use. The ones who haven't had a sex reassignment. My friends who have had the surgery got implants
 

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Were anabolic steroid easy to get hold of by teenagers in the early mid 1980s?

Were there any other drugs that kids might have been using in their early teens at that time, that might possibly partly explain the accused's behavior?
I've mentioned it before on here, Perth had a major problem with illegal steroids in the 80's and then it was meth. A big enough problem the cops were doing random testing for steroids. Steroids were being dealt through the clubs and gyms.

They were going in from Victoria. And heroin was going back from Perth.
 

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There's only one answer in the infamous urban dictionary for the meaning of "Bogsy"

Assuming that this definition applied back in the times when the accused wore this as his nickname, what might have possibly been the claim "object" if referred to?


To claim something for yourself before anyone else.
 

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I can only go by what I know my transgender friends use. The ones who haven't had a sex reassignment. My friends who have had the surgery got implants
I'm not right up on that aspect of it but anabolic steroids aren't just for bulking up, you can lose weight on them as well and they shrink testicles to marbles I'm told which some like.
 

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Amazing what you can learn from participating in this thread!
Did you know ... they can also cause sterility. Far as we know, he doesn't have any biological children and given his apparent devastation when first wife told him she was pregnant to another man after they'd been married years, he may be and that had a big impact.
 

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I've mentioned it before on here, Perth had a major problem with illegal steroids in the 80's and then it was meth. A big enough problem the cops were doing random testing for steroids. Steroids were being dealt through the clubs and gyms.

They were going in from Victoria. And heroin was going back from Perth.
I remember this. Every guy wanted to be "Arnie" & they were insane. "Roid Rage" was a term strongly used back then
 

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Where are the quotes "Melsy"?
Please provide a reference/source for who said this.
"You are going to die bitch" was a statement made to Dorothy when she was attacked in 1988. I might not have been Dorothy (Pseudonym) the attacker was referring. Dorothy's attacker was not known to her. Julie Cutler disappeared shortly after.

"28th May 1988
She believes he's in his 20's-30's. He snarled "you stupid ******ing *****, you're going to die, you're going to die" over and over again, the words never changed."


Julie Cutler attended WAIT (Curtain University) very close to where Dorothy was dumped on Centenary Drive.

"lurking at Karrakatta Cemetery showed the accused Claremont serial killer frequented the area "waiting for the opportunity to abduct, sexually assault and murder young women", the Supreme Court has been told."

"The reports found that he suppressed his emotions and that he had a "displacement of feelings", which Ms Barbagallo said suggested he would take his anger or frustration out on strangers."

"is also accused of attacking a woman in her Huntingdale home in 1988 "

 

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He talks like he knows Dorothy, but it would appear he doesn't know her at all. Internalised deferred anger on an innocent victim that appears to have been stalked and abducted for deflecting anger off someone he knows who has hurt him.

Ill be interested to hear the timeline of someones life around May 1988. Julie Cutler had already had one recent abduction attempt just prior from another high class hotel, The Parmelia. Julie's flat was broken into.

What was going on in someone's life in May 1988. Huntingdale snow-dropping runs. Break-ins. Family Bali trip date?

A corroborated timeline which shows other active behaviors might omit someone from this crime. This appears a period of high activity.

Looking forward to police with evidence or timeline, omitting someone from these Cutler & Dorothy crimes.
 
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"You are going to die bitch" was a statement made to Dorothy when she was attacked in 1988. I might not have been Dorothy (Pseudonym)
That’s a relief!
(And informative about the “Dorothy” assault)

For a few hours their, I was concerned that maybe you were watching a horror movie and accidentally thinking/typing out loud about one of the psycho movie characters whilst typing that post.
 

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That’s a relief!
(And informative about the “Dorothy” assault)

For a few hours their, I was concerned that maybe you were watching a horror movie and accidentally thinking/typing out loud about one of the psycho movie characters whilst typing that post.
It has been typed before in this thread. I'm not into stereotypical fictional horror movies.

In regards, Robyn Santen, it appears not only do they have no body, they have no clothes etc. They have nothing.

They have a car with everything left in it at Citybeach carpark north of Clancy's fish restaurant. Coroners report pulled down. Other published information pulled down.
 
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There must be more people connecting dots by the day.

As evidence is released, more dots will be connected exponentially. An interesting outcome of the trial evidence hearings

Over 500 witnesses and growing at a rapid rate?
seems there are all these people with what appera to be well establsihed connectons to each other postin and making comments about the csk and other murders if they know the csk or murderers they are toasted if they knew and did SFA about it curious as to what admsissons have been made
 

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It has been typed before in this thread. I'm not into stereotypical fictional horror movies.

In regards, Robyn Santen, it appears not only do they have no body, they have no clothes etc. They have nothing.

They have a car with everything left in it at Citybeach carpark north of Clancy's fish restaurant. Coroners report pulled down. Other published information pulled down.
yeah santen nee paton was a UWA masters graduate with thesis about wetlands disappeared eight yeras to the day after rayney murder - 8 day of 8th month later - who did she knew and similarly who romuald zak knew - all this talk form same conncted peopel - perf is a small place fater all
 

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For someone to attack and drag someone in the workplace towards a toilet being foiled by the victim there must have been other attributes that lead to psychiatric consults. Where and who is probably relevant.

To have slipped away from charges, maybe a psychologist or psychiatrist gave evidence that his behavior was the result of a psychotic attack?

The person had a predisposition which resulted in intervention by psychological professional and admonished charge in 1991?
Google the name Allan Keith Huggins

Unfortunately, you'll never get a list of every former "patient" he ever "counselled". So you might never be able to confirm if Edwards, Santen, or Zac, etc ever saw him.

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Unfortunately, you'll never get a list of every former "patient" he ever "counselled". So you might never be able to confirm if Edwards, Santen, or Zac, etc ever saw him.

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Much more interesting to google "Taxi Tony Claremont"
See who he was associated with before 2015
Shame that first CSK thead has been suppressed
 

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Much more interesting to google "Taxi Tony Claremont"
See who he was associated with before 2015
Shame that first CSK thead has been suppressed
"Taxi Tony" Gajewski was interviewed in 2011, and Police told Noel Geoffrey Coward, that "he was not their man"
As much as Coward's theory and Estelle Blackburn's accusations keeps coming up upon these forums, someone else is actually accused of the Claremont Serial Killings. And so far, nothing linking the accused to any person associated with Gajewski, including former SAS commando, Ross McCallum.
Maybe it's time to let it go?

PS The Julie Cutler threads on various forums haven't disappeared. You will find the stuff you're looking for upon them.

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Google the name Allan Keith Huggins

Unfortunately, you'll never get a list of every former "patient" he ever "counselled". So you might never be able to confirm if Edwards, Santen, or Zac, etc ever saw him.
Crikies! A long list of ...
 

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"Taxi Tony" Gajewski was interviewed in 2011, and Police told Noel Geoffrey Coward, that "he was not their man"
As much as Coward's theory and Estelle Blackburn's accusations keeps coming up upon these forums, someone else is actually accused of the Claremont Serial Killings. And so far, nothing linking the accused to any person associated with Gajewski, including former SAS commando, Ross McCallum.
Maybe it's time to let it go?
It would be freaky if there were non indictable associates mixing together associated with a number of crimes with knowledge of crimes.

The Fremantle crowd.
 
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