Current Claremont Murders Discussion & Edwards trial updates

Melsy

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Alcohol is not a good combination with fence jumping or breaking into peoples houses. Escaping becomes more complex.

I can picture someone in their silk cape jumping fences, climbing through windows. What drives that behavior?

This is not criminal theft of valuable goods. Its sexually driven with a hint of adrenaline chasing combined with a truck load of stalking.

This person has no prior offences of violence?
 

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Girlnextdoor

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Just had to add this quote from that article which I find very disturbing... (BBM, bolded by me)

" They are generally young, come from apparently caring families, have not previously taken drugs or been in trouble with the police, and do not have a history of being aggressive. They usually feel no remorse at all after the rage, however antisocial their behaviour."
 

petedavo

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We have heard home alone was drinking and family and friends were checking on him

Mystery man was fit but certainly not bulky
Only adds to the probability of MM being the accused friend from Claremont Speedway, who's dad and uncle drove speedway cars and in later years would be the accused step daughter's little athletics coach.
I'm looking forward to hearing what he puts into evidence, and I'm guessing it's probably about whether the accused was in Claremont at the time of the girls last known sightings. Maybe even something along the lines of the accused gave him a lift to the Conti just before MM was seen on CCTV.
Unfortunately, I haven't seen any pictures of him that's circa 1996-97, so I can't 100% say it's him in that video talking to Jane, but every description of the MM in the media sure would not preclude a close match to someone who's dad has blonde hair, and who was always involved in competitive athletics and sports.
I can't imagine that the only reason that he has a witness summons, has only to do with BLAC. As far as we know, nothing happened there.

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Melsy

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Only adds to the probability of MM being the accused friend from Claremont Speedway, who's dad and uncle drove speedway cars and in later years would be the accused step daughter's little athletics coach.
I'm looking forward to hearing what he puts into evidence, and I'm guessing it's probably about whether the accused was in Claremont at the time of the girls last known sightings. Maybe even something along the lines of the accused gave him a lift to the Conti just before MM was seen on CCTV.
Unfortunately, I haven't seen any pictures of him that's circa 1996-97, so I can't 100% say it's him in that video talking to Jane, but every description of the MM in the media sure would not preclude a close match to someone who's dad has blonde hair, and who was always involved in competitive athletics and sports.
I can't imagine that the only reason that he has a witness summons, has only to do with BLAC. As far as we know, nothing happened there.
I think the bloke inside the pub at the stairs, talking to Jane, is looking at a phone. If so, it should not be hard to drill down the analogue phone records for phone towers at the time.
A database query, all the men between 20 and 30 with a mobile phone. What are the chances a telco worker have a mobile phone in an era of 1996 when they were scarce.

If there was analogue mobile phone records for 1996, it would serve prosecution well.
 

FeelingThroaty

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Robyn SANTEN
I notice Robyn Santen's coroner report has been taken down, along with other government online information about her. It may be coincidental, but Robyn was an avid swimmer and with recent connections made with the swimming centre in Mt Claremont next Perry Lakes, will we hear that Hoff the Knight Rider had an association with the missing girl even though a coroners finding was more than likely suicide, as was Romaulds.
Maybe Hoffy in his Baywatch shorts had met Robyn through swimming events such as surf clubs etc which Robyn was a member of.

Where is the unlike button or shock horror shake as seen on FB re this one.
 

petedavo

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a lot of heat in one direction at the time here and on another sleuthing forum by some
a concerted jihad
some were clearly connected
generally where there is heat there is fire
those private messages might tell a story
BTW, Simon, forgot to ask why you blocked me from viewing your tweets?

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no idea. what is interesting is the first CSK thread in particular here on bigfooty. lots of people from a now defunct freak show were posting there. if it turns out they know the csk they are in deep s**t.
You're right about it being a freak show and most of the freaks (well it's really just a couple) were banned, only to come back time after time under different aliases, maybe pretending to be drunk or illiterate but within a few posts regressing to their old style. Not as Smart as they thought they were. I doubt any of them know the CSK though, so no-one will be in "deep s**t", but so what if they knew him? I once knew a guy that was shot dead by cops, went to school with him. I also went to school with another guy that was bashed to death in jail. I knew both of them for years. Big deal.

Some people here are better 'sleuths' than others and that's because they just stick to the evidence in front of them, while others like to join the dots that aren't actually there, so they add dots of their own, sometimes with lines, maps and arrows and sometimes with innuendo or just plain fantasy. They could also be doing it for a different, more sinister reason but time will tell.
 

Girlnextdoor

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DNA sharing across borders came into effect only late last year in Oz, according to this site. Might be interesting what turns up in the future perhaps in this CSK case, and others?


I liked this quote from a site about DNA. I think this explains it as only Rumsfeld could:

“As we know, there are known knowns. There are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns. That is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns. The ones we don’t know we don’t know.” Donald Rumsfeld, US Secretary of Defence, Department of Defence Briefing, Washington DC, 12 February 2002."


 

one eyed spy

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DNA sharing across borders came into effect only late last year in Oz, according to this site. Might be interesting what turns up in the future perhaps in this CSK case, and others?

The Australian Government has delivered new functionality to integrate with the National Criminal Investigation DNA Database to support law enforcement investigations.


The NCIDD has recently been enhanced to enable kinship matching, familial searching and advanced direct matching.

The NCIDD is available 24 hours, seven days a week to all Australian police agencies. It has been operational nationally since April 2001
 

SimonSays77

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You're right about it being a freak show and most of the freaks (well it's really just a couple) were banned, only to come back time after time under different aliases, maybe pretending to be drunk or illiterate but within a few posts regressing to their old style. Not as Smart as they thought they were. I doubt any of them know the CSK though, so no-one will be in "deep s**t", but so what if they knew him? I once knew a guy that was shot dead by cops, went to school with him. I also went to school with another guy that was bashed to death in jail. I knew both of them for years. Big deal.

Some people here are better 'sleuths' than others and that's because they just stick to the evidence in front of them, while others like to join the dots that aren't actually there, so they add dots of their own, sometimes with lines, maps and arrows and sometimes with innuendo or just plain fantasy. They could also be doing it for a different, more sinister reason but time will tell.
Is that right?
Do you want the bad news?
Or the really bad news?
 

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