Current Claremont Murders Discussion & Edwards trial updates

petedavo

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then surely it would have come out in the legal hearings to date.

Maybe if they did find something, and have told his defence about it, but suppressed it for everyone else for now, the defence will claim that they were planted their maliciously. Or that their client was involved in the abduction of Sarah Spiers, but did not murder her, and does not know where the body is.
The DPP told the court about the sandwich bags that the accused masturbated into, so I very much doubt that they held anything back at all.

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The DPP told the court about the sandwich bags that the accused masturbated into, so I very much doubt that they held anything back at all.

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We still don't have details of the DNA trail, or the 'taxi' evidence whatever that is or if the Camry was ever found. We haven't heard anything about what's in his juvenile record or medical records, unless that's suppressed.

Agree, it's not likely anything of huge significance in trophies was found in his toy box but I still think there could be more. Something to do with Sarah Spiers.
 

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then surely it would have come out in the legal hearings to date.

Maybe if they did find something, and have told his defence about it, but suppressed it for everyone else for now, the defence will claim that they were planted their maliciously. Or that their client was involved in the abduction of Sarah Spiers, but did not murder her, and does not know where the body is.
I don't think the prosecution or defence know re anything found.
 

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We still don't have details of the DNA trail, or the 'taxi' evidence whatever that is or if the Camry was ever found. We haven't heard anything about what's in his juvenile record or medical records, unless that's suppressed.

Agree, it's not likely anything of huge significance in trophies was found in his toy box but I still think there could be more. Something to do with Sarah Spiers.
I agree. We know nothing about the evidence they have re Sarah Spiers but there has to be plenty. Charges couldn't be laid on propensity alone.
 

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Looking for SS.
The reports of Screams at Mosman Park, that a witness who lived near Coles apparently was disturbed enough to look and saw a couple near a car makes me wonder if it was SS and if she ended up in this bin a few hours before the rubbish removal truck emptied it?


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Did whoever produced the Claremont Ghost clue videos have any knowledge of the crimes, other than what everyone else already knew? The witness reporting what they heard and saw from St Leonard's and Monument St only appeared in the media fairly recently. One of the CG's alleged "clues" was apparently a picture of a older style house with bushes. Similar to this one just on the corner of Monument St and Lochee St (where I saw the industrial bin).

So, did the CG know the crimes? And was the house just a picture of a landmark to show sleuthers that he knew the route that the perpetrator took? If anyone has download a copy of the original CG stuff from YouTube can you please screen shot a metadata dump so we can ascertain if it contains any clues to it's provenance?
At least if it can be proved to be a hoax then we can discount any value in it for discovering the whereabouts of SS, until then it remains a possibility that whoever posted the CG clues might indeed of had some intimate knowledge of the crimes.

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Was there a trophy box or a collection box, or a mixed box or 2 separate boxes. The claddagh broach and sunflower key ring are personal items missing from victims,

If there were dozens of items of clothing found were they taken from dozens of victims or random items collected on his nocturnal wanderings.
 

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Did whoever produced the Claremont Ghost clue videos have any knowledge of the crimes, other than what everyone else already knew? The witness reporting what they heard and saw from St Leonard's and Monument St only appeared in the media fairly recently. One of the CG's alleged "clues" was apparently a picture of a older style house with bushes. Similar to this one just on the corner of Monument St and Lochee St (where I saw the industrial bin).

So, did the CG know the crimes? And was the house just a picture of a landmark to show sleuthers that he knew the route that the perpetrator took? If anyone has download a copy of the original CG stuff from YouTube can you please screen shot a metadata dump so we can ascertain if it contains any clues to it's provenance?
At least if it can be proved to be a hoax then we can discount any value in it for discovering the whereabouts of SS, until then it remains a possibility that whoever posted the CG clues might indeed of had some intimate knowledge of the crimes.

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All I remember was it was a red brick bungalow style house with an outdoor area at the front under the roof. with a wall & the roof of the house covered the veranda. The front waist high wall is part of the house. The tile roof of the veranda is part of the house roof as one. Whether the house was rendered I cannot remember. I have forgotten the bushes name too for now. I believe the maker of the video was most likely not BRE but I really do not know. The left Bank pub was videoed. Views to garden Island. Tar lines on a road in a haphazard fashion trying to hold the road together till it can be replaced. videoing of a police wagon in front of the maker of the video. A pulsating hum sound at some sort of plant. I thought that might have been just sth of the Naval Base shacks.The other videos I cannot remember.
 

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then surely it would have come out in the legal hearings to date.

Maybe if they did find something, and have told his defence about it, but suppressed it for everyone else for now, the defence will claim that they were planted their maliciously. Or that their client was involved in the abduction of Sarah Spiers, but did not murder her, and does not know where the body is.
I thought the hearings to date were to argue contentious issues. Had there been a bail apllication these generally contain all sorts of juicy evidence - So maybe there is something found that can't really be argued (although picking at DNA found on several victims leaves a bit to be desired....). I have been wanting to know what they have to go for the murder charge on SS but unfortunately may be as per above and we'll have to wait
 

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Still struggling with the SS charge.

Taxi called.

Timing.

Must be a taxi.

October 31, 1994.

Swan Taxi - broken ankle.

Two Men - driver and another.

Same location.

Very strange.

No body.

No parole.
 

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Yes ok. I am not working on the GR case. Even though I have visited his site after he was found. He was on the right side of the track I went in on. But on the main track I was on I am not sure. Nor am I working on RZ`s case at Graylands. I am working on the line theory BRE has created.
Stop taking BS.

Line theory wasn’t created by BRE.

Someone with megalomania and severe mental illness started referring to it.

Wonder if it runs in the family?
 

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I do not think the accused or the CSK offered damsals in distress a lift home , then dropped them of safely … there may have been a Telstra employee doing this but these witnesses have one thing in common , they are alive

I don't think this one is hard to explain … A Telstra employee either offered or was asked to drive someone home , he got lucky and continued to try his luck … this is how guys mentality works … if a guy gets lucky at Pub X on Saturday you can guarantee he is back there next Saturday

There is not evidence to say he Frequented anywhere , there are assumptions made

The earlier crimes were carried out by a fool , left DNA Finger prints etc. …. I do not think the same person is the brains behind the CSK … I think the accused was involved , but to what extent I don't know

Maybe why you have trouble trying to fit one person into a profile is because there is more than one person
So you think the accused was involved.

But he was not the “brains” as you call it behind the CSK.

Tend to agree.

BRE lacks the smarts.

Sick errand boy with some technical skills handy in serial murder.

Go on.

Who was the CSK mastermind?

Nothing “genius” to plan, abduct and then murder young, attractive and intelligent women and then play games with authorities?

Fruitloops.

Reeks of severe mental illness likely to be bipolar and / or PTSD, megalomania, envy, misogyny and hatred of authority doesn’t it?

What causes that?

If BRE was involved, but not behind the CSK, at what stage do you think he will fess up?

Only when it becomes crystal clear he has extremely limited options?

That time would have passed.
 
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Stop taking BS.

Line theory wasn’t created by BRE.

Someone with megalomania and severe mental illness started referring to it.

Wonder if it runs in the family?
The line theory is from the CG site to the JR site. It happens to run right through the Claremont Hotel sweetie. It is supposed to go to Collie according to a video someone in the USA made & posted. That is linking or paying homage to David and Catherine Burnie I think SS is on the line. Anyway this American person links it to the Museum at Jandakot Airport. It got a little bizarre at that point. I am keen on members thoughts. Please do not post if what you say is over the top in comment. We do not need that.
 

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I have been told about this site as i have a very strong interest in this.
I have extremely good intuition, where is the first person of interest and where they are. Trying not to use names and im always pulled to a place. Its driving me up the wall because the person so wants me to tell the parents but how am i supposed to do that or the police for that matter. They will think im crazy. I dont know what else to say without breaching the policy.
 

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I have been told about this site as i have a very strong interest in this.
I have extremely good intuition, where is the first person of interest and where they are. Trying not to use names and im always pulled to a place. Its driving me up the wall because the person so wants me to tell the parents but how am i supposed to do that or the police for that matter. They will think im crazy. I dont know what else to say without breaching the policy.
Welcome to the thread. I would suggest that you should contact in the first instance Western Australian Police Macro Task Force. If you have, all well and good. If you're unwilling to do so, then I could suggest posting whatever information you think you're received upon this thread»
And then whatever information that you might think is coming to you can be put under some skeptical analysis and you can see if that information is considered by anyone else to be of some pertinence to this case, before you contact the Task Force.

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Whispers around Nedlands suggest a place of interest is in fact the Karrakatta cemetery. Personally I don't believe but that's the line people are taking who have been interviewed recently.

My guess would be closer to Huntingdale and probably a swampy area, now built over with the suburban crawl
I can imagine why he'd take someone there, being a place of sexual significance to him.
 

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I can imagine why he'd take someone there, being a place of sexual significance to him.
The locals who saw him there are suggesting he did more than just sit around whilst there. I just don't see how that's possible.

The cemetery is busy from 5am with dog walkers, 6am with council workers, 7am with cemetery workers, then the train commuters and school kids cutting through etc etc. I just can't imagine digging a hole deep enough without being seen. At night, it would be possible but that would certainly raise questions if someone was working at night in a cemetery.
 

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The locals who saw him there are suggesting he did more than just sit around whilst there. I just don't see how that's possible.

The cemetery is busy from 5am with dog walkers, 6am with council workers, 7am with cemetery workers, then the train commuters and school kids cutting through etc etc. I just can't imagine digging a hole deep enough without being seen. At night, it would be possible but that would certainly raise questions if someone was working at night in a cemetery.
Using a hole dug the day before by the cemetery for an early burial the next morning, and left unattended overnight has been speculated on forums over the years.
The general idea being that the body of SS could've been concealed in a preexisting grave on the night.
It's generally thought to be difficult to sleuth a list of possible gravesites by amateur detectives because MCB database via the website is not searchable by date of burial. I'd assume that is on the list of places that police have to go through, and there's probably many others.
I don't envy their chances as ground penetrating radar would be complicated due to the cemetery burying bodies on top of previous burials as plot leases expire. For example, the cemetery renewal program has seen a vast expansion of this practice. http://www.mcb.wa.gov.au/our-cemeteries/karrakatta-cemetery/cemetery-renewal

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