- Dec 21, 2018
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you know, the woman who didn't look further into who was driving certain cars has a lot to live with now all because BRE's name was left off of that list
This sort of attention will be awful for the first tranche of telstra shares....Failed duty of care, negligence.
Did they cooperate fully and openly with police? Looks like they didn't.
What measures did they take after being told by investigators one of their employees may have been picking up girls in the Claremont area and loitering/lurking? That one of their employees may be a suspect in a series of crimes? Were they told?
Did they do anything at all? Nothing? Why?
Did they alert the police to an attack on a woman at HH by one of their employees? That same employee who had a car accident in a Telstra vehicle on Stirling Highway?
I'd understand that if it was a jury trial. But I don't get why hall is suppressing it, when he is already aware of it and is making the decision.I think we can lay off of WAPOL a bit now. We all thought they never looked into Telstra & only taxi drivers. We were wrong. I'm also starting to think that at some points we're not allowed to know the full details of what witnesses say as in one report with the HH victim, what happened after BRE grabbed her & was dragging her, the blog writer stopped as the judge said something. So some stuff is because the general public are not allowed to know & some stuff is for different reasons by both sides.Why the hell subscribe when different outlets are publishing the exact same words. The West Australian never told us this could happen
That was interesting. Why didn't Barbagallo let her finish? It's kinda left it on a knife edge.
Maybe Annabelle will be a witness. It might be because she is quoting what was said rather than what she saw."asked how she got out of the van she said: "I just remember Annabel yanked me from the back of the van and I remembered she said "that man was..
Before she could finish she was cut off.
...That man was??!! That man was what?!!!!
I'd think this is on the money. They are witnesses that a telstra vehicle was trawling the area.Perhaps they are only allowed to state they were given a lift and nothing else. As it most likely can't be proven it is him driving any more info could be considered to have prejudicial impact
Management would have known but it should have been kept quiet from their employees. Here there was a discussion between the police and Telstra about what a witness saw.I wonder how much they actually told Telstra's management. I'm sceptical they told them what it was about.
Telstra would have an external fleet management service, even back then.you know, the woman who didn't look further into who was driving certain cars has a lot to live with now all because BRE's name was left off of that list
This watoday article answers some of the earlier questions in here about the Telstra vehicle and workers lists.
Lots more of the missing detail.
The 'Telstra lead' was being chased within days of the Macro Taskforce - which went on to become the longest and most expensive murder investigation in Australian history – being formed in 1996.www.watoday.com.au
Claremont trial: Telstra links ran cold after telco didn't send accused’s vehicle in police request
By Heather McNeill
December 3, 2019 — 3.03pm
What a complete balls up by Telstra and WAPOL.
How many external reviews, and they could not even pick something like this up.
If you were having sleep problems your GP could refer you to the sleep clinic. Also if you were prescribed benzos it was prudent to have your sleep pattern checked. Continually stopping breathing and then choking as you wake up causes sleep deprevation. Most people were prescribed a CPAP machine.Wasn't it a sleep study being run at Charlie Gardner Hospital?
If a GP referred, I am anxious to see why and would think that if its important they would be called. If they arent called, then the reason is probably not important to the case and the sleep physician was called simply to provide accurate evidence of his height and weight and alcohol consumption at the time.If you were having sleep problems your GP could refer you to the sleep clinic. Also if you were prescribed benzos it was prudent to have your sleep pattern checked. Continually stopping breathing and then choking as you wake up causes sleep deprevation. Most people were prescribed a CPAP machine.
Yep agreed. Police should have requested a list of telecom/telstra employees. May have been a lot, but then could have cross-referenced each one. Hmm..."this bloke attacked a social worked". Okay "lets chat with him".......Provides DNA, matches KK in June 1996.Can't lay all the blame at the feet of Telstra, they're not investigators. A lot of businesses have flaws in how they collect and store data, there may be a number of reasons the accused name didn't appear on a list.
The assumption should have been anyone that worked at Telstra potentially had access to a vehicle (regardless of if their role required it) and lets have a look to see who has a criminal record. Pretty basic Police work.
The other article that I posted excerpts from yesterday does though...so if this is what the article is basing its 1998 question from the police to telstra regards telstra cars, then there is insufficient details here to draw the details in the article. it shows macro was looking into camry sedans owned by telstra. it doesn't give specific dates in January, it doesn't specify if BRE was on this list, it wouldn't list BRE's other cars as it asks specifically for Camry's, and it doesn't bring up the details that BRE Camry was leased to someone else so now not on the list....
The court also saw evidence that WA police had written to Telstra again in December 1998, seeking information about Telstra vehicles in operation between 25 and 28 January, 1996 – the weekend that Spiers disappeared.
But the vehicle list sent back to WA police did not include details of the Toyota Camry station wagon that Edwards was driving at the time, given the car had been sold by Telstra in the intervening period.
The records show that police first suspected a Telstra employee could be connected to the crimes more than 20 years before Edwards was arrested.
Which reminds me.How strange would it be if the accused was asked to collect some of the information and left his own name off the list. Or was on leave when the query was received.
A timely reminder that without official court transcripts, or recordings, we should be wary of assuming that the media reports are 100% factually correct.I think the above link has misrepresented the details released in court today regards the 1996 telstra vehicle inquiry
Lists (plural)Police should have requested a list of telecom/telstra employees.
Agreed. It would literally have taken 2 minutes (even back in 1996!) to have printed off a record of WA based employees from 1995-1996.Lists (plural)
Snapshots at various key points in time.
Including staff on leave and secondment to other organisations
And including any other workers (labor hire, partners/vendors) who might have had access to Telstra vehicles (legal or illegally).