Current Claremont Murders Discussion & Edwards trial updates

[Likeamystery]

What is the relevance of 2013 in regards the Kimono?
It was tested in 2016 and a match came up to KK and CG....

It's been mentioned recently that the Cold Case Squad worked on the Kimono case in 2013.
Read more......

 

[Kurve]

WARNING: Victim Witness Statement Contains Graphic Material.

Emily's blog. Trial day 11.

Done.

 

[kingswood71]

It's been mentioned recently that the Cold Case Squad worked on the Kimono case in 2013.
Read more......

No, it says they Kimono was boxed in 2013. Cold case started working on it in 2016....extracted semen and from that DNA. Do you have evidence that they located and tested the semen on the kimono prior to that?

 

[BFew]

Shouldn't be too long before the courts release todays exhibits photos for the media to publish.

Claremont killer trial LIVE: Bradley Edwards' rape victim recounts how she 'thought she was going to die'

The trial of the accused Claremont serial killer enters its third week following explosive evidence in week two from Bradley Edwards' love rival, a woman he attacked in 1988 and details about the final moments of two of the three young women he's alleged to have murdered.

www.watoday.com.au

Justice Hall is now considering media requests for exhibits to be released.
He's agreed for aerial photos of Karrakatta cemetery to be released, as well as a photograph of the cord used to restrain the rape victim.
He's agreed to release a drag mark photo from the Karrakatta cemetery crime scene, but has declined to release photographs of the victim's clothing as it would be "unnecessarily likely to upset the victim".
The exhibits will be posted to this blog once released.
Mr Edwards has been returned to custody.

He has leaned over and thrown his notepad onto the desk of one of his lawyers as he walked out of the dock.

 

[Kurve]

Shouldn't be too long before the courts release todays exhibits photos for the media to publish.

Claremont killer trial LIVE: Bradley Edwards' rape victim recounts how she 'thought she was going to die'

The trial of the accused Claremont serial killer enters its third week following explosive evidence in week two from Bradley Edwards' love rival, a woman he attacked in 1988 and details about the final moments of two of the three young women he's alleged to have murdered.

www.watoday.com.au

Jeeze, only two weeks in and ... Mondays eh.

"He has leaned over and thrown his notepad onto the desk of one of his lawyers as he walked out of the dock."

 

[kingswood71]

Jeeze, only two weeks in and ... Mondays eh.

"He has leaned over and thrown his notepad onto the desk of one of his lawyers as he walked out of the dock."

Not happy then...what did he want them to do?...he plead guilty to it for god's sake!
Frustration rising...how will he feel in another 6 months give or take a few weeks?

 

[Fortune Cookie]

Forensic officer from Karrakatta rape scene called
The next witness is Senior Constable Dianne Bickhoff, who is giving evidence via video link from Queensland.
She was one of the forensic officers who attended the Karrakatta rape crime scene on February 12, 1995.
"In 1995, I was a specialist in photography and I went out to major crime jobs. I would take photographs but I was also trained in collecting exhibits as well," she said.
"One this occasion I attended with a forensic officer who specialised in fingerprints and his name was Adam McCulloch ... we were on call that time.
"We received the call around 7 o'clock on that date.
"The scene were were asked to attend was Karrakatta cemetery.
"I recall speaking to Det. Sen Serg. Emmett and the victim.
"The victim was dressed in a hospital gown, she seemed quite distressed, she looked like she had been through something."
Sen. Const. Bickhoff said she was tasked with taking photos of the crime scene and Mr McCulloch was tasked with collecting the exhibits.
"I photographed exhibits in situ ... I took photographs of the drag marks near the sand in the tombstones," she said.
She said Mr McCulloch collected a pair of black shoes, a "skirt or shorts" and a pair of underpants from the scene, as well as a soil sample.
She said all were logged and placed in exhibit bags and given a case number.
The exhibit numbers would be AJM1 onwards, she said.
Sen. Const. Bickhoff is now being shown her photographs from the crime scene.
Of the drag marks, she said they were consistent with a body being dragged.
She is now saying some of her photographs that she recalls taking, including of the items in situ, didn't appear to be in the brief years later when she was shown it again.
She also recalls other exhibits from the hospital, including a jacket, hospital gown, hospital pants and a white cord, were seized and recorded by Mr McCulloch.
They were handed over to Mr McCulloch from Det. Sen Serg. Emmett at 8.45am the morning of the rape, according to the crime scene report.
The Karrakatta crime scene exhibits - including the shorts which are of forensic relevance to the state's case - were seized from the area they were found in at 8.05am.
All the items seized were logged using Mr McCulloch's initials - AJM - followed by a number, starting from '1'. These are the same initials used to number the fingernail exhibits taken from the body of Ciara Glennon in 1997.
Sen. Const. Bickhoff said the exhibits were taken to the forensic branch laboratory for future examination.
The letter police wrote to the state health laboratory requesting analysis stated Mr McCulloch was the only person to collect and handle the exhibits.


I wonder if they are going to try to argue that the forensic exhibits have been mixed up in this case?

 

[JWS2019]

However, sibling DNA did get a mention early on. How it comes into play, I have no idea.

depending if we read the newspaper as gospel, from WAtoday in the first couple of days:

Prosecutor Carmel Barbagallo claims the forensic scientists who examined the 2008 exhibit described the sample as “distinct and clear” and determined there was a one in 80 million to 100 million likelihood the male DNA found under Ciara’s fingernails originated from someone other than Mr Edwards, or someone he was related to.

I read this as 1 in 80-100 million chance of being someone other than the accused (or a relation of the accused), not 100% clear though.

Perhaps the familiar data related to this? (After the fact not before?) having then to prove it was not a relation of the accused.

 

[Kurve]

Perhaps the familiar data related to this? (After the fact not before?) having then to prove it was not a relation of the accused.

Thanks for that, it makes sense.

 

[Willow weeps]

When this is over, I hope like hell the KK victim takes out a civil suit against Telstra & sues their arses for letting him keep his job which led him to keep his van to abduct her & then rape her. I can't even imagine what hell that girl went & is still going through after all of these years. He stole so much from her

 

[BFew]

Claremont killer trial LIVE: Bradley Edwards' rape victim recounts how she 'thought she was going to die'

The trial of the accused Claremont serial killer enters its third week following explosive evidence in week two from Bradley Edwards' love rival, a woman he attacked in 1988 and details about the final moments of two of the three young women he's alleged to have murdered.

www.watoday.com.au

 

[kingswood71]

Forensic officer from Karrakatta rape scene called
The next witness is Senior Constable Dianne Bickhoff, who is giving evidence via video link from Queensland.
She was one of the forensic officers who attended the Karrakatta rape crime scene on February 12, 1995.
"In 1995, I was a specialist in photography and I went out to major crime jobs. I would take photographs but I was also trained in collecting exhibits as well," she said.
"One this occasion I attended with a forensic officer who specialised in fingerprints and his name was Adam McCulloch ... we were on call that time.
"We received the call around 7 o'clock on that date.
"The scene were were asked to attend was Karrakatta cemetery.
"I recall speaking to Det. Sen Serg. Emmett and the victim.
"The victim was dressed in a hospital gown, she seemed quite distressed, she looked like she had been through something."
Sen. Const. Bickhoff said she was tasked with taking photos of the crime scene and Mr McCulloch was tasked with collecting the exhibits.
"I photographed exhibits in situ ... I took photographs of the drag marks near the sand in the tombstones," she said.
She said Mr McCulloch collected a pair of black shoes, a "skirt or shorts" and a pair of underpants from the scene, as well as a soil sample.
She said all were logged and placed in exhibit bags and given a case number.
The exhibit numbers would be AJM1 onwards, she said.
Sen. Const. Bickhoff is now being shown her photographs from the crime scene.
Of the drag marks, she said they were consistent with a body being dragged.
She is now saying some of her photographs that she recalls taking, including of the items in situ, didn't appear to be in the brief years later when she was shown it again.
She also recalls other exhibits from the hospital, including a jacket, hospital gown, hospital pants and a white cord, were seized and recorded by Mr McCulloch.
They were handed over to Mr McCulloch from Det. Sen Serg. Emmett at 8.45am the morning of the rape, according to the crime scene report.
The Karrakatta crime scene exhibits - including the shorts which are of forensic relevance to the state's case - were seized from the area they were found in at 8.05am.
All the items seized were logged using Mr McCulloch's initials - AJM - followed by a number, starting from '1'. These are the same initials used to number the fingernail exhibits taken from the body of Ciara Glennon in 1997.
Sen. Const. Bickhoff said the exhibits were taken to the forensic branch laboratory for future examination.
The letter police wrote to the state health laboratory requesting analysis stated Mr McCulloch was the only person to collect and handle the exhibits.


I wonder if they are going to try to argue that the forensic exhibits have been mixed up in this case?

Link to that??

 

[Chameleon75]

When this is over, I hope like hell the KK victim takes out a civil suit against Telstra & sues their arses for letting him keep his job which led him to keep his van to abduct her & then rape her. I can't even imagine what hell that girl went & is still going through after all of these years. He stole so much from her

She has reason to be aggrieved with telstra , but also with the police. Had they entered the Huntingdale fingerprints into the database perhaps when he committed the HH attack he ends up with a custodial sentence instead of probation.

 

[BFew]

Anyone recognise what type of knot that is in the picture of the cord released by by the CSK Judge today?

Types of knots it could be include, fishing, boating, and climbing knots.

Here's a selection of knots to review.

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[Fortune Cookie]

Link to that??

Claremont killer trial LIVE: Bradley Edwards' rape victim recounts how she 'thought she was going to die'

The trial of the accused Claremont serial killer enters its third week following explosive evidence in week two from Bradley Edwards' love rival, a woman he attacked in 1988 and details about the final moments of two of the three young women he's alleged to have murdered.

www.watoday.com.au

 

[BFew]

Was there ever any evidence of the accused leaving footprints in all that drag marked sand show in the Karrakatta Cemetery sand pic released by the Judge today?

Or did he take a rake with him to remove the footprints like a golfer would in a sand bunker?

Claremont killer trial LIVE: Bradley Edwards' rape victim recounts how she 'thought she was going to die'

The trial of the accused Claremont serial killer enters its third week following explosive evidence in week two from Bradley Edwards' love rival, a woman he attacked in 1988 and details about the final moments of two of the three young women he's alleged to have murdered.

www.watoday.com.au

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[Kurve]

Was there ever any evidence of the accused leaving footprints in all that drag marked sand show in the Karrakatta Cemetery sand pic released by the Judge today?

Or did he take a rake with him to remove the footprints like a golfer would in a sand bunker?

He may have dragged her behind him and over his footprints?

 

[Krusty Crab]

I stumbled across this: "During a previous court hearing it was revealed the state would allege there are additional complainants against Mr Edwards, whose names have been suppressed" ???

DNA key to accused Claremont serial killer's trial as date set for 2019

DNA evidence will form a key component in the trial of the man accused of being the Claremont serial killer.

www.brisbanetimes.com.au

Any ideas?.....

the report is all about the CSK murders. the additional complainants would be the huntingdale victim, and the KK victim.

 

[Kurve]

Thanks for having a look Shelly. Strange how it's been removed.

I found it in PressReader and it definitely says 2013.

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[FTY1]

It wasn't my link to begin with. Metic found it a week or so ago, I might have to go back and delete all references. Thanks for that.

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Copy it while you can.

 

[Krusty Crab]

I wonder if they are the witnesses we have heard from already (and the judge rules their names didn't need to be suppressed) or if there's some witnesses from the pre-curser attacks who have since been able to identify BRE.

Why do they need statements from 20 taxi drivers? And then a "sole statement" from Swan taxis? "Sole statement" doesn't seem to mean "our taxi arrived at 2:04 and didn't see SS so took another fare". What advantage would the prosecution have in Swan making a statement?

20 x taxi drivers could be taxis the girls took prior to arriving at claremont to rule out fibre contamination from then. also possibly the taxi that should of picked up SS, the taxi that took the friends of all three victims home, and any taxi drivers that could of seen the three victims on the road. the swan taxi statement would quite possibly be the taxi that should of picked up SS, there would of been a few questions asked of that guy.

 

[kingswood71]

the report is all about the CSK murders. the additional complainants would be the huntingdale victim, and the KK victim.

Nope. Article says "The 50-year-old has also denied raping a 17-year-old girl in Karrakatta Cemetery in 1995 and attacking an 18-year-old woman in her Huntingdale home in 1988."...so not referring to those complainants....

 

[Feerits Elf]

Or did he take a rake with him to remove the footprints like a golfer would in a sand bunker?

Yes one of the Telstra living witnesses reported seeing a garden rake with "Property of B Edwards" carved into the handle in the back of a Camry wagon. It was reported in the Post from memory.

 

[PaulSubetro]

When this is over, I hope like hell the KK victim takes out a civil suit against Telstra & sues their arses for letting him keep his job which led him to keep his van to abduct her & then rape her. I can't even imagine what hell that girl went & is still going through after all of these years. He stole so much from her

I'm not sure she'd have a case. Sacked or not, Telstra van or gold Ford Ltd, he would have gone to Claremont that night anyway.

While it defies belief that he wasn't sacked, he didn't actually rape or even sexually assault anyone. We all now know he would have hadn't she put up a fight but back then, sackable but not "that guys going to be an SK but start putting in preventive measures".

 

[kingswood71]

Claremont killer trial LIVE: Bradley Edwards' rape victim recounts how she 'thought she was going to die'

The trial of the accused Claremont serial killer enters its third week following explosive evidence in week two from Bradley Edwards' love rival, a woman he attacked in 1988 and details about the final moments of two of the three young women he's alleged to have murdered.

www.watoday.com.au

Thanks.
In the scheme of things, I dont think the initials are a huge issue...he was a forensic officer and likely labeled lots of evidence over the years with his initials. I think that once they arrived at the lab, then there would be a proper record of saying which evidence belonged to which crime.