Clarke & Griffin

[The Joker]

I would like to see the club get Majak Daw, the man can play out a whole game with minimal support...

 

[Cobbler]

I would like to see the club get Majak Daw, the man can play out a whole game with minimal support...

Not the worst option.

 

[G Mus]

Is that with people who can afford it or the greater community?

Nope, it's the longest and hardest rehab, and can normally be managed with strapping

 

[freo_leo29]

Just having a sniff around other boards. There's a bit of love for Hannath. Makes me think we should keep him and say goodbye to Clarke.

Really? what boards, wish we could convince another club to trade for him but i reckon clubs are smarter then that

 

[Bicco]

Really? what boards, wish we could convince another club to trade for him but i reckon clubs are smarter then that

Richmond and Adelaide. I was asking them about Ibbo. Not saying they were gushing over him, just throwing his name around as a possibility.
For what it's worth, I think he is much better than Clarke, especially around the ground. He has a better footy brain IMO.

 

[MadDocker]

The pigeons that sit on the wing during the warmer months have a better footy brain and are sharper around the ground than Clarke...

 

[wayToGo_]

The pigeons that sit on the wing during the warmer months have a better footy brain and are sharper around the ground than Clarke...

They still put out a lot of crap though. Although they do alright on only one leg.

 

[YelloMit]

Clarke + Suban for Daw I'd be okay with.

 

[freo_leo29]

Richmond and Adelaide. I was asking them about Ibbo. Not saying they were gushing over him, just throwing his name around as a possibility.
For what it's worth, I think he is much better than Clarke, especially around the ground. He has a better footy brain IMO.

jeez it could be another robbie warnock trade if we got rid of hannath!

 

[kingswood71]

It's more common to play with a damaged PCL than it is to repair it

As far as I can tell, Clarke has had post season knee surgery twice....At the end of 2014 and again at the end of 2015....One article does mention collateral ligaments though, not PCL.
2014, according to Ross "He had a (knee) meniscus repair"....But then the West reported that he had " surgery to repair the medial ligaments in his right knee".
2015 (report just prior to 2016 NAB cup): "Fremantle have been conservative with the versatile ruckman, who returned to full training this month after having post-season knee surgery".
I wish the reports all would give me better more accurate medical diagnoses !!!!!!!

 

[Scham]

The pigeons that sit on the wing during the warmer months have a better footy brain and are sharper around the ground than Clarke...

Geez the shit being flung on Clarke around here is almost at the levels of what Jonno was getting a few years back. Crowley a couple of years before that...

 

[meima]

Geez the shit being flung on Clarke around here is almost at the levels of what Jonno was getting a few years back. Crowley a couple of years before that...

The thing with Clarke is consistency, when you play so well against subiaco and turn to shit against port where I suspect his knee is mental rather then physical. Especially when he lost in ruck contest and feel a bit pain around the knee.

 

[Scham]

The thing with Clarke is consistency, when you play so well against subiaco and turn to shit against port where I suspect his knee is mental rather then physical. Especially when he lost in ruck contest and feel a bit pain around the knee.

Which Port game are you referring to? He hasn't even been selected for this week yet has he?

 

[meima]

Which Port game are you referring to? He hasn't even been selected for this week yet has he?

Oh sorry vs Brisbane , thinking too far ahead that he will get selected again due to port don't have genuine ruckmen.

 

[Scham]

Oh sorry vs Brisbane , thinking too far ahead that he will get selected again due to port don't have genuine ruckmen.

Ok, firstly I don't think he was that bad against Bris. Certainly not as bad as some are making out that's for sure. Got to remember that his opponent is extremely mobile and is in very good form this year.

Secondly, whilst Bris weren't much better than WAFL standard, it was still a step up from Subi. Especially for Clarke, as I said he had a good opponent to counter.

Thirdly, playing in Perth against Subi is better for Clarkes knee than sitting on a plane for 6 hours in cattle class when you're 200+cm.

I agree that he's not going well and certainly not as good as he can play, but anyone can see that he's carrying an injury and if Sandi and Griff were available or even just one of them he wouldn't be playing at the top level, so I think that needs to be taken into consideration and the level of vitriol around here is getting ott.

 

[The Joker]

I agree that he's not going well and certainly not as good as he can play, but anyone can see that he's carrying an injury and if Sandi and Griff were available or even just one of them he wouldn't be playing at the top level

So why is he playing at all, why is the club playing an injured man?

 

[scon]

I wish the reports all would give me better more accurate medical diagnoses

Recently in a game he attempted the most innocuous of turns and from his reaction it looked almost as though his kneecap popped out.He grabbed at the knee(both were strapped)and hobbled to the dug-out.Had the offending knee restrapped and returned to the field of play.
I diagnose 'knackered knee' maybe two.

 

[Big Animal]

Recently in a game he attempted the most innocuous of turns and from his reaction it looked almost as though his kneecap popped out.He grabbed at the knee(both were strapped)and hobbled to the dug-out.Had the offending knee restrapped and returned to the field of play.
I diagnose 'knackered knee' maybe two.

I agree. I don't think we will ever see 2013 Clarke again even if he wanted to work that hard. His knees are obviously gone. With only 4 ruckmen on the list, I think we need to keep Hannath as a backup for when Sandi/grif are out or retired, regardless of whether we draft in another ruck.

 

[scon]

Looking back the knee knock he got in the first bloody bounce down of the season should have warned us all there was a horrible anus headed our way

 

[ozzie69]

I agree. I don't think we will ever see 2013 Clarke again even if he wanted to work that hard. His knees are obviously gone. With only 4 ruckmen on the list, I think we need to keep Hannath as a backup for when Sandi/grif are out or retired, regardless of whether we draft in another ruck.

I thought Hannath was quite serviceable against Brisbane - perhaps with a bit more time he may work out.

 

[kingswood71]

I diagnose 'knackered knee' maybe two.

I concur with this diagnosis !!...So tempting to write that on my next ortho referral: "Dear Consultant Ortho. Surgeon. Thank you for seeing this patient and his knackered knees for your kind review".

 

[Scham]

So why is he playing at all, why is the club playing an injured man?

Players are played injured all of the time, in fact by season's end, there'd be very few players without an injury or two. Clearly Clarke can play with his injury but it does effect his output/performance. I'd say rest isn't going to help him and maybe neither will another operation.