Rumour Clarko

[Seadog]

The libtard social justice warriors will believe anything they are fed.

Feel for Clarko and Fagan and hope they sue the shit out of everyone.

Yeah it's not as though racism has been overlooked and swept under the carpet before.

 

[The Blue Max]

Yeah it's not as though racism has been overlooked and swept under the carpet before.

Agree. Meanwhile the Fascist boot boys will continue to insist they have an intelligent argument. When most of them failed Year 11.

 

[JoondalupJ]

Thats a lot of words to say you never read the terms of reference.

Well describe what you mean. Single comment sentences with
lots of words and terms of reference, what are you actually
saying. I say lots but most don't say anything.

Its hard to have a good argument or debate, when you get
Gollum's tricky riddle short grabs??

I haven't been able to access the stories. The most horrifying thing about that story was that an Aboriginal player's partner was pressured to have an abortion, and he was coerced into cutting her off. Has someone now said or proven that it just wasnt true? Did someone retract what they said? I've missed the contents of the article completely. It's behind a paywall.

The abortion story is so messed up and taken out of context and if anything was said like that
it was under a whole different set of circumstances, and when people are emotional about certain
circumstances?? They take everything out of context.
Including Jeffs comment about torn jeans, taken as some stupid insult!

Which then set off, in the wrong direction totally, one person!
Who I call the greatest player we ever had at Hawthorn.

And along with some others, blind assassination hit men, from behind a hidden wall, that nearly destroyed three people careers.
And I'd suspect those few, got themselves some reward after all that. Yes you know what I mean.

And my first comment about Clarko was because I like the bloke and Fagan Burge I do not know about much, I just thought a comment to get it clear what innuendo can sometimes do , when we declare guilt before the trial. And I believe lots of immature peopleon BF do not see the point.

Now this Voice typed racism hits back again.
You , well, some of you, have blamed my comments on bringing it up, blame the herald sun first off, then the racism accusers and the leaker, and the ABC would be another target.

So now I've told you what I think would it be good for an answer to the debate, rather than a one liner that mean nothing but appear from childish attitudes, and like I said politics!
Any way I'll probably get the boot for having an opinion.

 

[the avoca drover]

Well describe what you mean. Single comment sentences with
lots of words and terms of reference, what are you actually
saying. I say lots but most don't say anything.

Its hard to have a good argument or debate, when you get
Gollum's tricky riddle short grabs??

The abortion story is so messed up and taken out of context and if anything was said like that
it was under a whole different set of circumstances, and when people are emotional about certain
circumstances?? They take everything out of context.
Including Jeffs comment about torn jeans, taken as some stupid insult!

Which then set off, in the wrong direction totally, one person!
Who I call the greatest player we ever had at Hawthorn.

And along with some others, blind assassination hit men, from behind a hidden wall, that nearly destroyed three people careers.
And I'd suspect those few, got themselves some reward after all that. Yes you know what I mean.

And my first comment about Clarko was because I like the bloke and Fagan Burge I do not know about much, I just thought a comment to get it clear what innuendo can sometimes do , when we declare guilt before the trial. And I believe lots of immature peopleon BF do not see the point.

Now this Voice typed racism hits back again.
You , well, some of you, have blamed my comments on bringing it up, blame the herald sun first off, then the racism accusers and the leaker, and the ABC would be another target.

So now I've told you what I think would it be good for an answer to the debate, rather than a one liner that mean nothing but appear from childish attitudes, and like I said politics!
Any way I'll probably get the boot for having an opinion.

Wow

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

Well describe what you mean. Single comment sentences with
lots of words and terms of reference, what are you actually
saying. I say lots but most don't say anything.

Its hard to have a good argument or debate, when you get
Gollum's tricky riddle short grabs??

The abortion story is so messed up and taken out of context and if anything was said like that
it was under a whole different set of circumstances, and when people are emotional about certain
circumstances?? They take everything out of context.
Including Jeffs comment about torn jeans, taken as some stupid insult!

Which then set off, in the wrong direction totally, one person!
Who I call the greatest player we ever had at Hawthorn.

And along with some others, blind assassination hit men, from behind a hidden wall, that nearly destroyed three people careers.
And I'd suspect those few, got themselves some reward after all that. Yes you know what I mean.

And my first comment about Clarko was because I like the bloke and Fagan Burge I do not know about much, I just thought a comment to get it clear what innuendo can sometimes do , when we declare guilt before the trial. And I believe lots of immature peopleon BF do not see the point.

Now this Voice typed racism hits back again.
You , well, some of you, have blamed my comments on bringing it up, blame the herald sun first off, then the racism accusers and the leaker, and the ABC would be another target.

So now I've told you what I think would it be good for an answer to the debate, rather than a one liner that mean nothing but appear from childish attitudes, and like I said politics!
Any way I'll probably get the boot for having an opinion.

 

[The Blue Max]

Well describe what you mean. Single comment sentences with
lots of words and terms of reference, what are you actually
saying. I say lots but most don't say anything.

Its hard to have a good argument or debate, when you get
Gollum's tricky riddle short grabs??

The abortion story is so messed up and taken out of context and if anything was said like that
it was under a whole different set of circumstances, and when people are emotional about certain
circumstances?? They take everything out of context.
Including Jeffs comment about torn jeans, taken as some stupid insult!

Which then set off, in the wrong direction totally, one person!
Who I call the greatest player we ever had at Hawthorn.

And along with some others, blind assassination hit men, from behind a hidden wall, that nearly destroyed three people careers.
And I'd suspect those few, got themselves some reward after all that. Yes you know what I mean.

And my first comment about Clarko was because I like the bloke and Fagan Burge I do not know about much, I just thought a comment to get it clear what innuendo can sometimes do , when we declare guilt before the trial. And I believe lots of immature peopleon BF do not see the point.

Now this Voice typed racism hits back again.
You , well, some of you, have blamed my comments on bringing it up, blame the herald sun first off, then the racism accusers and the leaker, and the ABC would be another target.

So now I've told you what I think would it be good for an answer to the debate, rather than a one liner that mean nothing but appear from childish attitudes, and like I said politics!
Any way I'll probably get the boot for having an opinion.

 

[koshjjennedy723]

Did Black Lives Matter make you post this garbage?

 

[Sainter3and7]

Well describe what you mean. Single comment sentences with
lots of words and terms of reference, what are you actually
saying. I say lots but most don't say anything.

Its hard to have a good argument or debate, when you get
Gollum's tricky riddle short grabs??

The abortion story is so messed up and taken out of context and if anything was said like that
it was under a whole different set of circumstances, and when people are emotional about certain
circumstances?? They take everything out of context.
Including Jeffs comment about torn jeans, taken as some stupid insult!

Which then set off, in the wrong direction totally, one person!
Who I call the greatest player we ever had at Hawthorn.

And along with some others, blind assassination hit men, from behind a hidden wall, that nearly destroyed three people careers.
And I'd suspect those few, got themselves some reward after all that. Yes you know what I mean.

And my first comment about Clarko was because I like the bloke and Fagan Burge I do not know about much, I just thought a comment to get it clear what innuendo can sometimes do , when we declare guilt before the trial. And I believe lots of immature peopleon BF do not see the point.

Now this Voice typed racism hits back again.
You , well, some of you, have blamed my comments on bringing it up, blame the herald sun first off, then the racism accusers and the leaker, and the ABC would be another target.

So now I've told you what I think would it be good for an answer to the debate, rather than a one liner that mean nothing but appear from childish attitudes, and like I said politics!
Any way I'll probably get the boot for having an opinion.

I know a lot of people see Leigh Matthews as the GOAT, but in my opinion, Peter Hudson was the greatest Hawk ever. The only person I've ever seen who was consistently unbeatable. Kept goalless only 4 times in a very long career, and having an average of over 5 goals per game. Hawthorn have had many great players, but among those I've seen, Peter Hudson's record stands alone. Best goal average in the history of the game. And I'm writing that as someone who had a big tribute to Tony Lockett in my room. (Some called it a shrine, but I personally didn't think it went that far). I would never say Cyril Rioli was in that class.

 

[MightyBloods]

I know a lot of people lost Leigh Matthews as the GOAT, but in my opinion, Peter Hudson was the greatest Hawk ever. The only person I've ever seen who was consistently unbeatable. Kept goalless only 4 times in a very long career, and having an average of over 5 goals per game. Hawthorn have had many great players, but among those I've seen, Peter Hudson's record stands alone. Best goal average in the history of the game. And I'm writing that as someone who had a big tribute to Tony Lockett in my room. (Some called it a shrine, but I personally didn't think it went that far). I would never say Cyril Rioli was in that class.

I'm with you on Peter Hudson. I'm a 69yo South Melb/Swans fan and declared Hudson the best player I had seen until along came Gary Ablett Snr. I remember one day at Glenferrie Oval, my father and I stood behind the away goals, it was wet & muddy. I told my Dad thank goodness it's wet as it will restrict Hudson. We had John Rantall playing on him (one of the best ever undersized defenders). That day, Hudson kicked 13 goals. The following year in 1970 (we made the final four that year), our next game against Hawthorn? Hudson follows it up with another 13! People may say that he had some good players delivering it to him. Nope. Kennedy's instructions were to clear every forward out and leave Hudson one on one and to just kick it long. The VFL introduced the diamond (not centre square) to help discourage teams from crowding the backline, instigated primarily to beat Kennedy's game plan. Years later people would call it 'Pagan's Paddock' when a guy named Carey surfaced.

 

[The Blue Max]

I know a lot of people lost Leigh Matthews as the GOAT, but in my opinion, Peter Hudson was the greatest Hawk ever. The only person I've ever seen who was consistently unbeatable. Kept goalless only 4 times in a very long career, and having an average of over 5 goals per game. Hawthorn have had many great players, but among those I've seen, Peter Hudson's record stands alone. Best goal average in the history of the game. And I'm writing that as someone who had a big tribute to Tony Lockett in my room. (Some called it a shrine, but I personally didn't think it went that far). I would never say Cyril Rioli was in that class.

I agree - I only saw Hudson once, in 72 representing Tassie in the ANFC vs SA in SA. I went with a mate who later played for Sturt U19s. I told him him ‘this guy Hudson was something special’

SA walloped them but there was one genuine chance he had where he beat Greg Phillips (Erin’s dad) to the ball and walked around him like he was standing still.

My mate’s jaw just dropped, I laughed.

Came out on one leg and ran rings around SA’s Hall of Fame Full Back.

My 2nd would be Matthews just for consistency, flexibility and resilience.

I always say - who did they play on?

Hudson - Southby, Lofts, Barry Davis, Kevin Murray, Dench , Bourke, John Rantall etc.

Matthews - As a fwd pocket - Barry Davis, Allan Davis and an array of ‘switch hitters’ who were poorly matched - Newman, Frank Dempsey, John Schulz and even Len Thompson.

So what is clear is there were few sound match ups for Matthews, making him tough to beat - that was one of his best weapons - along with his physicality and balance.

 

[JoondalupJ]

I know a lot of people see Leigh Matthews as the GOAT, but in my opinion, Peter Hudson was the greatest Hawk ever. The only person I've ever seen who was consistently unbeatable. Kept goalless only 4 times in a very long career, and having an average of over 5 goals per game. Hawthorn have had many great players, but among those I've seen, Peter Hudson's record stands alone. Best goal average in the history of the game. And I'm writing that as someone who had a big tribute to Tony Lockett in my room. (Some called it a shrine, but I personally didn't think it went that far). I would never say Cyril Rioli was in that class.

We all loved Plugger. Hudson was a freak. And I wouldn't mind seeing that 60 year number from Premiership 66, gone from the records. Any one who deserves it ,is the Saints.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

The abortion story is so messed up and taken out of context and if anything was said like that

Unless you were there you are just guessing.

it was under a whole different set of circumstances, and when people are emotional about certain
circumstances?? They take everything out of context.
Including Jeffs comment about torn jeans, taken as some stupid insult!

When a man who has a golliwog collection named after Aboriginal players, who also tells radio that he can tell the security at AFL games are “new Australians” based on their skin colour, then goes on to question if a young Aboriginal woman can afford to dress appropriately in his eyes it’s just another example of him being a racist old relic to those who have been the victims of casual racism their entire lives, rather than a innocent joke.

Maybe also recognise that there’s far more nuance involved in what was said, how it was perceived and who is completely correct in their recollection, so much so that no one came out as a winner rather than declaring one particularly person was wronged.

 

[Proper Gander]

Unless you were there you are just guessing.


When a man who has a golliwog collection named after Aboriginal players, who also tells radio that he can tell the security at AFL games are “new Australians” based on their skin colour, then goes on to question if a young Aboriginal woman can afford to dress appropriately in his eyes it’s just another example of him being a racist old relic to those who have been the victims of casual racism their entire lives, rather than a innocent joke.

Maybe also recognise that there’s far more nuance involved in what was said, how it was perceived and who is completely correct in their recollection, so much so that no one came out as a winner rather than declaring one particularly person was wronged.

Couldn’t have said this better, Abasi moderator. Thank you.

From day one of this scandal it seemed obvious to me that multiple or even all parties were telling the truth as far as they recollected or perceived events.

What the situation did expose was that Hawthorn, and almost certainly other or even all clubs, are way out of step with their understanding of HR stuff - boundaries - risks etc. There were far too many people wandering outside the boundaries of their role.

Hopefully it has some impact for all clubs. I’m dead certain Hawthorn won’t make those poor judgments again.

 

[GWT6]

Well describe what you mean. Single comment sentences with
lots of words and terms of reference, what are you actually
saying. I say lots but most don't say anything.

Its hard to have a good argument or debate, when you get
Gollum's tricky riddle short grabs??

The abortion story is so messed up and taken out of context and if anything was said like that
it was under a whole different set of circumstances, and when people are emotional about certain
circumstances?? They take everything out of context.
Including Jeffs comment about torn jeans, taken as some stupid insult!

Which then set off, in the wrong direction totally, one person!
Who I call the greatest player we ever had at Hawthorn.

And along with some others, blind assassination hit men, from behind a hidden wall, that nearly destroyed three people careers.
And I'd suspect those few, got themselves some reward after all that. Yes you know what I mean.

And my first comment about Clarko was because I like the bloke and Fagan Burge I do not know about much, I just thought a comment to get it clear what innuendo can sometimes do , when we declare guilt before the trial. And I believe lots of immature peopleon BF do not see the point.

Now this Voice typed racism hits back again.
You , well, some of you, have blamed my comments on bringing it up, blame the herald sun first off, then the racism accusers and the leaker, and the ABC would be another target.

So now I've told you what I think would it be good for an answer to the debate, rather than a one liner that mean nothing but appear from childish attitudes, and like I said politics!
Any way I'll probably get the boot for having an opinion.

"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul"​

 

[The Blue Max]

Couldn’t have said this better, Abasi moderator. Thank you.

From day one of this scandal it seemed obvious to me that multiple or even all parties were telling the truth as far as they recollected or perceived events.

What the situation did expose was that Hawthorn, and almost certainly other or even all clubs, are way out of step with their understanding of HR stuff - boundaries - risks etc. There were far too many people wandering outside the boundaries of their role.

Hopefully it has some impact for all clubs. I’m dead certain Hawthorn won’t make those poor judgments again.

I think we expect a lot from ex-footballers. It's a generalisation, but raising kids and getting a diploma in business is not exactly an indication of HR and IR acumen.

Because I worked for the Govt, I have 5 different pieces of paper relating to Workplace Diversity, WHS, Fraud, Personnel Management& Ind. Rel - and only one partly related to my work skills. (3 Mandatory - Fraud and IR encouraged)

Can’t see Hawthorn making all those courses mandatory for a Coach.

 

[The Blue Max]

"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul"​

While I agree, I think you’re thinking anyone cares. Less oxygen, not more.

 

[scott2clarkson]

I think we expect a lot from ex-footballers. It's a generalisation, but raising kids and getting a diploma in business is not exactly an indication of HR and IR acumen.

Because I worked for the Govt, I have 5 different pieces of paper relating to Workplace Diversity, WHS, Fraud, Personnel Management& Ind. Rel - and only one partly related to my work skills. (3 Mandatory - Fraud and IR encouraged)

Can’t see Hawthorn making all those courses mandatory for a Coach.

It's definitely available for the coaches.
As a local goal umpire we've had to do the modules as well as part of our re-registration each year.
It's an AFL House thing. Tom Harley might need everyone to take the same modules.
It's better to be safe than sorry.

 

[GWT6]

While I agree, I think you’re thinking anyone cares. Less oxygen, not more.

Thanks Champ. If you don't mind, I might run everything by you before posting in future.

 

[The Blue Max]

Thanks Champ. If you don't mind, I might run everything by you before posting in future.

You probably should, it’d stop you making a git of yourself, Sport.

But you’re right, I shouldn't stand in your way in your relentless search for Absolute Stupidity.