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Tayl0r said:
If I were to say that the quality of a man is his small appendage then men who had built a persona around a large one would defend their previously hard fought position and place in society by attacking me and my credibility, rather than the validity of either position as a status symbol.
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For those who struggle to comprehend a position of opinion or build a discussion against its easier to attack the individual rather than rebut the argument at hand. A good argument has a balance of for and against where the astute person has the ability to persuade others without digressing to the narrow minded approach of insults :).

That goes to all sides, typically fear is what drives others to take the position of reverting to taunts and slurs because they cannot hold a rational discussion.
 
Teagueeee15 said:
We had to do some arts subjects related to ethics as part of my Commerce degree, so the class was split between Business and Arts degree students.

The tutor had some great advice for the business students, “if you want to do well in arts, don’t write essays supporting your own opinion, write essays supporting the exam markers opinion”. That’s probably how Bolt failed.
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That looks like code for: "Don't write what you think should be true, it's most likely rubbish as you're not even in your 20's." :)
 

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Gough said:
Re Bolt, I've never understood why people pay so much attention to the opinion of a man unable to complete first year Arts. I mean really, turning up to your tutes and spewing 1500 words out a couple of time a semester was too much for him?
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Hes not an idiot unfortunately, Ive no idea why he never completed his degree as he could have done it in his sleep.

Dont get me wrong, I find him and his putrid ideological agenda objectionable in the extreme.
However he's a good writer and I often find myself quite enjoying his prose even though I vehemently disagree with every word.

It almost makes me sick when he quotes Orwell, (who he has obviously read extensively) and then twists and perverts his egalitarianism to somehow support his own vile rhetoric.

He might be an evil campaigner, but he isn't a stupid one.
 
TimmeT said:
Seriously what's with this woman?

She seriously would have to be one of the biggest hypocrites when it comes to gender issues and violence and gender issues and mental health. Yet again we are seeing her writing a gendered article around a man who is suspected of utilising violence to kill family members.

Here is her latest article where she attacks the man who was suspected of killing the family at Margaret River.
https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/li...the-good-bloke-narrative-20180514-p4zf6r.html

Furthermore the article makes references to other cases of male violence which led to death in a domestic setting and how feminists were compelled to consider the plight of the male perpetrator's mental health. This is a claim which Clementine Ford utterly rejects, despite there being significant evidence to show this was a factor in these cases.

Yet ironically Clementine stays strangely silent when there is a female perpetrator of similar crimes. A good example was the case involving the Sudanese woman who drove the car into the lake killing her own kids. Clementine was simply not willing to call out this behaviour like she would if it was a male and tell us that mental health should not be considered because it would make multiple of her pro women claims untenable.

Incredibly despite her rejection of mental health issues relating to matters such as domestic violence, Clementine Ford was hired to be a key speaker for Lifeline the mental haelth call centre. This is noe no longer taking place due to a strongly supported online petition against her based on her views towards males and her tweets.

It is incredible that a mental health related body would have even thought that it would have been prudent to inite someone to speak who is so dismissive of mental health and males.

So this begs the question why some of those on the progressive side of politics are so willing to support and lap up the comments she makes, especially when her views are incredibly conservative on a number of issues including male's mental health problems?

I personally feel that she is simply a vile troll and bigoted woman who should be taken about as seriously as an episode of Dave Chappele.
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The son is going to be a very rich man. The pay out from the drug company is going to be huge.

The grandfather recently started a medication there is black box warnings for exactly what he did.

The problem is that those warnings don't exist in Australia. They are law in America though

The writer of this article you posted is simply trying to hide these facts from you

Fairfax generate alot of revenue from the industry responsible in this tradegy. She is following the money
 
William Wonka said:
Hes not an idiot unfortunately, Ive no idea why he never completed his degree as he could have done it in his sleep.

Dont get me wrong, I find him and his putrid ideological agenda objectionable in the extreme.
However he's a good writer and I often find myself quite enjoying his prose even though I vehemently disagree with every word.

It almost makes me sick when he quotes Orwell, (who he has obviously read extensively) and then twists and perverts his egalitarianism to somehow support his own vile rhetoric.

He might be an evil campaigner, but he isn't a stupid one.
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If I want florid prose I'll read Neville Cardus.
 
Gough said:
If I want florid prose I'll read Neville Cardus.
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I fear the reporting of Mr Cardus may be a touch out of date.

I was not giving Bolt a recommendation as a cracking read with a cuppa and a tim tam btw. simply suggesting he has easily enough rat cunning to get a B.A.
 
William Wonka said:
I fear the reporting of Mr Cardus may be a touch out of date.

I was not giving Bolt a recommendation as a cracking read with a cuppa and a tim tam btw. simply suggesting he has easily enough rat cunning to get a B.A.
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Yeah I would have been surprised if Bolt couldn't actually pass an Arts degree, would have thought he must have quit rather than flunked out.
 
Teagueeee15 said:
We had to do some arts subjects related to ethics as part of my Commerce degree, so the class was split between Business and Arts degree students.

The tutor had some great advice for the business students, “if you want to do well in arts, don’t write essays supporting your own opinion, write essays supporting the exam markers opinion”. That’s probably how Bolt failed.
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I had an English teacher who told me this. He said you always agree with the premise of the question in your answer, even if you actually disagree. Because if you disagree, then you have to work twice as hard to make a convincing argument.

Chief said:
That looks like code for: "Don't write what you think should be true, it's most likely rubbish as you're not even in your 20's." :)
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Its how universities everywhere are now. Group think where alternate ideas are not welcome. Those in control just want to get their money and those who teach just want everyone to believe what they believe.

the_interloper said:
Yeah I would have been surprised if Bolt couldn't actually pass an Arts degree, would have thought he must have quit rather than flunked out.
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He left Uni to take up a cadetship in another state and then was offered a full time job. Wisely realised that he didnt need the degree to get a job so never looked back.

He talks about it occasionally. Had an interesting upbringing. Growing up in regional parts of Australia, then fleeing Adelaide as soon as he had the chance.
 

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HairyO said:
Its how universities everywhere are now. Group think where alternate ideas are not welcome. Those in control just want to get their money and those who teach just want everyone to believe what they believe.
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If you've got a room full of 18-25's who think they are going to re-write an entire academic sphere based on 12 weeks of study and a Milo video, then yeah you're going to find a lot of disappointed kids.
 
HairyO said:
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Its how universities everywhere are now. Group think where alternate ideas are not welcome. Those in control just want to get their money and those who teach just want everyone to believe what they believe.
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Agreed with this, in my experience anyway. I recently went back to uni to do my MBA, I wouldn't say I got $4k of value for each subject I did but that's what they got and there were certain narratives being pushed upon us by a lot of the lecturers. Rather than question them I felt it was smarter to go along with them as they were marking my assignments of course. But I wouldn't exactly say they were encouraging free thinkers that's for sure.
 
Chief said:
If you've got a room full of 18-25's who think they are going to re-write an entire academic sphere based on 12 weeks of study and a Milo video, then yeah you're going to find a lot of disappointed kids.
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There are professors who get fired for speaking out against the agreed line. And you know what, if the kids are right then maybe they should have their own opinions.

When I was at university we were taught critical thinking. Not sure what your experience was.

the_interloper said:
Agreed with this, in my experience anyway. I recently went back to uni to do my MBA, I wouldn't say I got $4k of value for each subject I did but that's what they got and there were certain narratives being pushed upon us by a lot of the lecturers. Rather than question them I felt it was smarter to go along with them as they were marking my assignments of course. But I wouldn't exactly say they were encouraging free thinkers that's for sure.
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That's how you end up with Harvard MBAs which were all the rage at Enron.
 
NMFCMUFC said:
Pretty much.

She lives a pretty sad existence and seems to take no joy in anything and find the wrong and outrage in absolutely everything.

But she's no different to Rita Panahi and all them, they just fight on opposite ends of the political spectrum, its identity politics at its worst which is inherently killing democracy.

You take her and the rest with a grain of salt or you take points which are somewhat plausible and bin the rest to form your own opinion, which I feel too many don't do, they take everything at pure face value, get outraged and justify the writer's continual employment.
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She's getting paid to do what she loves, she's got a happy young family ...
 
MaddAdam said:
She's getting paid to do what she loves, she's got a happy young family ...
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Joseph goebels also got paid to do what he loved and he had a family as well.

The similarities don't end there. He was also white and European
 
Thegibbsgamble said:
Joseph goebels also got paid to do what he loved and he had a family as well.

The similarities don't end there. He was also white and European
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Lol, jeeeezus.

Way to Godwin the thread.
 

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