Teams Cleveland Browns - GPODAWUND [sic]

(Log in to remove this ad.)

Pera

Josh Thomas #24
Joined
Sep 26, 2010
Posts
6,745
Likes
4,960
Location
Melbourne
AFL Club
Collingwood
Other Teams
Newcastle Jets, Cleveland Browns
Love the signings so far. Pro football says we'll have a top 5 O-line once we get Zeitler qnd Tretter. Also giving money to Bitonio is a smart move provided he stays healthy. Probably an indication we are taking a QB in the draft at 12 i think.
 

Pera

Josh Thomas #24
Joined
Sep 26, 2010
Posts
6,745
Likes
4,960
Location
Melbourne
AFL Club
Collingwood
Other Teams
Newcastle Jets, Cleveland Browns
Ozweiler to Browns. We get a 2nd rounder also for essentially taking the cap hit releasing him. Or we keep him as a backup to Kessler and bypass any QBs in the draft.

Griffin III time is up it seems
 

AmericanCrow

Norm Smith Medallist
Joined
Jun 17, 2015
Posts
8,729
Likes
14,965
Location
Cleveland, Ohio
AFL Club
Adelaide
Other Teams
Cleveland Browns, Indians and Cavs
Huh...so turns out offensive line IS important....go figure. Expensive lesson for FO to learn.

Bottom line, I don't care about the money...and if they are prepared to give up draft picks for a qb to start winning---well it is about goddamn time they realized you play to win the game and not for some future unknown year.

To bad they had established a losing reputation by going 1-15 last season...the Safety from Arizona would have been a nice piece.

Still need linebacker help...defensive backfield help and a wide receiver worth a shit.

Much work remains
 

Chris25

Moderator
Joined
Oct 30, 2007
Posts
10,275
Likes
6,893
Location
Adelaide
AFL Club
Fremantle
Other Teams
West End Redbacks, Cleveland Browns
Moderator #1,556
Waking up to free agency is so much more fun when the Browns are active for once.

Very happy with all the deals so far, nice to give Joe Thomas some friends again. Playing things smart with the Osweiler trade too. If the Garoppolo trade doesn't get down, it won't be for lack of trying.

Disappointing that Pryor looks set to leave. I think he overestimated his market value, probably won't return now just out of principle. Although if anyone is going to overpay a free agent just to distract from the dumpster fire that is their organisation, it's the Redskins.
 

V9x18

Club Legend
Joined
Aug 27, 2014
Posts
1,620
Likes
1,925
Location
melbourne
AFL Club
Sydney
Other Teams
Pistons, Browns, BCFC, Lions
Don't mind the osweiler trade, obviously not a long term solution but a smart way to turn our free cap space into picks. Reports that NE want pick 1 for JG, please no.
 

Rack Watts

Here's MASON
Joined
May 24, 2008
Posts
23,205
Likes
16,944
Location
Hobart, Tasmania
AFL Club
Essendon
Other Teams
CLEVELAND BROWNS
Don't mind the osweiler trade, obviously not a long term solution but a smart way to turn our free cap space into picks. Reports that NE want pick 1 for JG, please no.
Haha the number 1 pick, try 12 and a second rounder in 2018 at an absolute maximum. Garett is ours.
Pretty sure there is a thing called the draft coming up.....
 

V9x18

Club Legend
Joined
Aug 27, 2014
Posts
1,620
Likes
1,925
Location
melbourne
AFL Club
Sydney
Other Teams
Pistons, Browns, BCFC, Lions
Haha the number 1 pick, try 12 and a second rounder in 2018 at an absolute maximum. Garett is ours.
I flat out wouldn't trade a first round pick for him. Franchise quarterbacks are un-tradeable, so NE willing to do a deal for him tells you all you need to know
 

(Log in to remove this ad.)

ausbacker

Norm Smith Medallist
Joined
Apr 5, 2011
Posts
5,367
Likes
4,851
AFL Club
West Coast
Other Teams
Beantown
I flat out wouldn't trade a first round pick for him. Franchise quarterbacks are un-tradeable, so NE willing to do a deal for him tells you all you need to know
New England willing to deal Jimmy tells you we have Tom Brady, who continues to perform at an unprecedented level and appears intent on playing for 3-5 more seasons. Belichick will do what he feels is best for New England not the Browns.
 

V9x18

Club Legend
Joined
Aug 27, 2014
Posts
1,620
Likes
1,925
Location
melbourne
AFL Club
Sydney
Other Teams
Pistons, Browns, BCFC, Lions
New England willing to deal Jimmy tells you we have Tom Brady, who continues to perform at an unprecedented level and appears intent on playing for 3-5 more seasons.

Tom Brady is 40 years old. BB is probably the smartest man in the NFL, with a degree in economics and an amazing ability to not become attached to any player (unlike people like Jerry Jones). If Bill thought Jimmy was the next franchise QB, he's not trading him. He's experienced what the NFL is like without a franchise QB.

Belichick will do what he feels is best for New England not the Browns.
exactly.
 

ausbacker

Norm Smith Medallist
Joined
Apr 5, 2011
Posts
5,367
Likes
4,851
AFL Club
West Coast
Other Teams
Beantown
Tom Brady is 40 years old. BB is probably the smartest man in the NFL, with a degree in economics and an amazing ability to not become attached to any player (unlike people like Jerry Jones). If Bill thought Jimmy was the next franchise QB, he's not trading him. He's experienced what the NFL is like without a franchise QB.

exactly.
The problem you have is you appear to be referencing Brady according to historical precedent when what Brady is doing is without historical precedent. FWIW, I wouldn't be surprised to see both Belichick and Brady retire at the same time, whenever that may be.
 

Woodson

AE commish
Joined
Mar 20, 2001
Posts
30,718
Likes
11,605
Location
AE18Clubhouse.com
AFL Club
North Melbourne
Other Teams
Pittsburgh Steelers, NY Mets
New England willing to deal Jimmy tells you we have Tom Brady, who continues to perform at an unprecedented level and appears intent on playing for 3-5 more seasons. Belichick will do what he feels is best for New England not the Browns.
With the Browns messy egg of having Brock O landing on their doorstep, you can't think it's possible they'll (Browns) be clever enough to hatch a move which sends out Brock and swing a deal for Jimmy without no loss of that 2018 pick acquired from the Texans? More like that the Browns will lose a first and that second 2018 pick for Jimmy and still have Brock getting overpaid in a Browns guernsey. I wouldn't without a remote chance of the Redskins' being dumb enough to take RG3 back or maybe Brock and move on Kirk Cousens.
 

V9x18

Club Legend
Joined
Aug 27, 2014
Posts
1,620
Likes
1,925
Location
melbourne
AFL Club
Sydney
Other Teams
Pistons, Browns, BCFC, Lions
The problem you have is you appear to be referencing Brady according to historical precedent when what Brady is doing is without historical precedent.
Brady is a freak. Being this good at 40 is amazing, and truly a testament to his professionalism. He truly has shown no signs of slowing down, he's actually getting better. I think he's got MINIMUM 2 years of quality football left. The thing is though, if your BB or RC, and you think JG is your franchise QB for the next 10 years, what does a first round pick mean to you when your giving up the next franchise guy? What happens if TB12 suffers an injury, or falls off a cliff (because like you said, they're is no historical precedent for what the man is doing).

They're the best run franchise in the NFL, and its not even close. If they think Jimmy is the next franchise quarterback, there isnt anything my team offer that is worth giving that up. If they don't think he's a franchise qb, they'll trade him for the best deal they can get.

Either way, Cleveland will not leave this trade with a franchise quarterback. Which is why i don't want to trade for him, especially not a first rounder.
 

V9x18

Club Legend
Joined
Aug 27, 2014
Posts
1,620
Likes
1,925
Location
melbourne
AFL Club
Sydney
Other Teams
Pistons, Browns, BCFC, Lions
With the Browns messy egg of having Brock O landing on their doorstep, you can't think it's possible they'll (Browns) be clever enough to hatch a move which sends out Brock and swing a deal for Jimmy without no loss of that 2018 pick acquired from the Texans? More like that the Browns will lose a first and that second 2018 pick for Jimmy and still have Brock getting overpaid in a Brown guernsey.
The Brock deal is one of the most un-browns things I've seen us do for quite a few years. Im actually shocked at the intelligence of it. It makes me think its too good to be true and we'll somehow end up with no first round pick and Brock as our starting quarterback
 

V9x18

Club Legend
Joined
Aug 27, 2014
Posts
1,620
Likes
1,925
Location
melbourne
AFL Club
Sydney
Other Teams
Pistons, Browns, BCFC, Lions
The problem you have is you appear to be referencing Brady according to historical precedent when what Brady is doing is without historical precedent. FWIW, I wouldn't be surprised to see both Belichick and Brady retire at the same time, whenever that may be.
Lots of reports have said that Bill would like to coach after brady.

The two aren't very close, and there is a certain element of competition between the two. Id be more surprised if Bill retired with Brady. He wants to prove he can win without the GOAT
 
Last edited:

Woodson

AE commish
Joined
Mar 20, 2001
Posts
30,718
Likes
11,605
Location
AE18Clubhouse.com
AFL Club
North Melbourne
Other Teams
Pittsburgh Steelers, NY Mets
The Brock deal is one of the most un-browns things I've seen us do for quite a few years. Im actually shocked at the intelligence of it. It makes me think its too good to be true and we'll somehow end up with no first round pick and Brock as our starting quarterback
The word 'intelligence' has no business being included in your response. But to screw up by not having any first round picks wouldn't surprise as the OLB/ secondary depth is believed to be deep in this draft. They have even reason to draft down. The Browns need to establish a sturdy D to have any hope and then patch up the O with smarter off-season FA signings. That's how I would go about it.
 

V9x18

Club Legend
Joined
Aug 27, 2014
Posts
1,620
Likes
1,925
Location
melbourne
AFL Club
Sydney
Other Teams
Pistons, Browns, BCFC, Lions
The word 'intelligence' has no business being including in your response. But to screw up by not having any first round picks wouldn't surprise as the OLB/ secondary depth is believed to be deep in this draft. They have even reason to draft down. The Browns need to establish a sturdy D to have any hope and then patch up the O with smarter off-season FA gets. That's how I would go about it.
Ill say it again. Trading for Brock was an intelligent move. :)


It wouldn't surprise me at all if we did trade down, its been somewhat of a trend of ours. Personally, i feel we've already got enough picks, 11 this year and 11 next year. Its time we started to get some talent in. Garrett can be a difference maker from day 1. You can point to positions of need, but realistically we are the least talented team in the NFL, we need help everywhere. I think we've already started patching up that o-line, this free agency period.

Realistically though, the Browns are the Browns and we are both probably wasting our time commenting on the worst run franchise in American Sports.
 

ausbacker

Norm Smith Medallist
Joined
Apr 5, 2011
Posts
5,367
Likes
4,851
AFL Club
West Coast
Other Teams
Beantown
Brady is a freak. Being this good at 40 is amazing, and truly a testament to his professionalism. He truly has shown no signs of slowing down, he's actually getting better. I think he's got MINIMUM 2 years of quality football left. The thing is though, if your BB or RC, and you think JG is your franchise QB for the next 10 years, what does a first round pick mean to you when your giving up the next franchise guy? What happens if TB12 suffers an injury, or falls off a cliff (because like you said, they're is no historical precedent for what the man is doing).

They're the best run franchise in the NFL, and its not even close. If they think Jimmy is the next franchise quarterback, there isnt anything my team offer that is worth giving that up. If they don't think he's a franchise qb, they'll trade him for the best deal they can get.

Either way, Cleveland will not leave this trade with a franchise quarterback. Which is why i don't want to trade for him, especially not a first rounder.
Regarding the bold, I'm reasonably certain there is a lot Cleveland has that could entice New England to trade with them, Josh Gordon being one notable asset.
 

V9x18

Club Legend
Joined
Aug 27, 2014
Posts
1,620
Likes
1,925
Location
melbourne
AFL Club
Sydney
Other Teams
Pistons, Browns, BCFC, Lions
Regarding the bold, I'm reasonably certain there is a lot Cleveland has that could entice New England to trade with them, Josh Gordon being one notable asset.
So if you're NE, and you think JG is your next franchise quarterback, you'd trade him for Josh Gordon?
 
Top Bottom