Climate Change Arguing

[Socrates2]

Standby for a resurgence of the Greens vote as Labor shifts right to back coal mining.Well done to everyone who voted for more coal mines, you can apologise to your children now and explain yourself.

 

[Jibroni]

Standby for a resurgence of the Greens vote as Labor shifts right to back coal mining.Well done to everyone who voted for more coal mines, you can apologise to your children now and explain yourself.

And let some other country take all the jobs, economical benefits and with no change to global emissions?

Were already doing our fair share in meeting Paris targets without sending the economy down the toliet.

 

[Socrates2]

And let some other country take all the jobs, economical benefits and with no change to global emissions?

Were already doing our fair share in meeting Paris targets without sending the economy down the toliet.

Lol, drink the cool aid Mr Gullible! Your logic is not flash.How can we transfer to cheaper renewable energy like the rest of the world with more coal? Question to you what are the negative economic impacts of increasing carbon emmissions? Don't give me the bs that we are meeting our targets, buying credits and doing only 20% of what the scientists are asking is not taking action.Are you happy the coalition withdrew funding for a massive wind farm?

 

[LukeParkerno1]

What sort of country puts up with mass media saturation of far right propaganda? Herald Sun- no truthful articles on climate change thanks to Murdochs orders + the bigoted Andrew Bolt.The Australian newspaper- directly supports every coalition policy and 4 out 5 articles on climate change are fake news.They also get climate change deniers to write articles.Sky news-far right crackpots, it loses money but is propped up by Murdoch for the free propaganda. Every other Newscorp paper backed the coalition even though they had no decent thought through policy.I can still see Scammo and Mathew Guy at Pelligrinis blaming Muslims for not stopping a random mental case.If you voted Scammo enjoy the crap country is creating. At least the neanderthals won't have to put with transgender toilets, an issue more important than climate change to the rednecks. If you voted Scammo, enjoy the next summer of 45°C days, maybe invest your tax cuts into coal mining shares so you can put an air conditioner in every room.#redneckbigotswintheday.

Maybe instead of whinging, Labor should have got better policies (and actually priced them properly for once)..oh and a better leader that wasn't Bill Shorten who was utterly trash. The franking policy was also the epitome of silly, why even bother going there?

Blame the Labor Party who went in with Shorten, Albanese probably wins this election.

 

[Man0gwaR74]

Standby for a resurgence of the Greens vote as Labor shifts right to back coal mining.Well done to everyone who voted for more coal mines, you can apologise to your children now and explain yourself.

The average Aussie can barely afford electricity and our elderly pensioners are being forced to freeze in winter coz they can't afford heating but why do you care when you want to condemn our children to a lifetime of national debt that they can never balance! I wouldn't want you to explain anything to your children tbh <_<

 

[SSwans2011]

The average Aussie can barely afford electricity and our elderly pensioners are being forced to freeze in winter coz they can't afford heating but why do you care when you want to condemn our children to a lifetime of national debt that they can never balance! I wouldn't want you to explain anything to your children tbh <_<

Yes because the youth of Australia have made it abundantly clear that it is debt and not the death of the ******* planet they care about. Don't even pretend to care about their interests.

 

[Man0gwaR74]

Yes because the youth of Australia have made it abundantly clear that it is debt and not the death of the ******* planet they care about. Don't even pretend to care about their interests.

Not everyone including many scientists, aren't as foolish as you to believe the climate change BS! It's a scam to escalate Globalism! The banks have a habit of running things into debt to take control and this is no different! $19billion in annual interest that us taxpayers pay, not enough for you huh?

 

[SSwans2011]

Not everyone including many scientists, aren't as foolish as you to believe the climate change BS! It's a scam to escalate Globalism! The banks have a habit of running things into debt to take control and this is no different! $19billion in annual interest that us taxpayers pay, not enough for you huh?

"Including many scientists"

3% or less
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/11/4/048002

 

[Man0gwaR74]

"Including many scientists"
3% or less
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/11/4/048002

I suppose, you believe the polls also? <_<

 

[SSwans2011]

I suppose, you believe the polls also? <_<

These are surveys of scientists. A very, VERY small minority don't believe in man-made climate change. Show some evidence on the contrary or admit you're full of s**t.

 

[Sainteric]

These are surveys of scientists. A very, VERY small minority don't believe in man-made climate change. Show some evidence on the contrary or admit you're full of ****.

So why didn't the alp come with a plan, there energy policy was a mess and made no sense

 

[Poor Form]

"Including many scientists"

3% or less
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/11/4/048002

You know for something to be a fact it needs 100% repeatability, yet to see any of the predictions that end up accurate or proof beyond shadow of a doubt just this old "97% of scientists agree" chestnut so what are the other 3% chopped liver? inb4vestedinterests

 

[SSwans2011]

You know for something to be a fact it needs 100% repeatability, yet to see any of the predictions that end up accurate or proof beyond shadow of a doubt just this old "97% of scientists agree" chestnut so what are the other 3% chopped liver? inb4vestedinterests

You're kidding me right? Let's not take action on climate change because less than 3% of scientists think it's not man-made. You have to be kidding. Surely.

The repeatability argument has no bearing here because it's scientist opinion not an experiment. What a bewildering response.

 

[Poor Form]

You're kidding me right? Let's not take action on climate change because less than 3% of scientists think it's not man-made. You have to be kidding. Surely.

The repeatability argument has no bearing here because it's scientist opinion not an experiment. What a bewildering response.

So their opinion based on the evidence is now a fact because 97% of them agree. You ever read an academic paper? The biggest circle jerk of "as explained in goober et al. 2006 and expanded on by career academic. 2010 there will be perma frost in 2012" they are the height of confirmation bias.

Their evidence is weak their predictions are flat wrong and the real world is waking up.

You know 97% of the worlds academics probably thought the world was flat for a while I suppose the governments of the day should never have allowed anyone to explore lest they fall to their death good thing the 97% don't always get their way.

 

[AbrahamS]

So their opinion based on the evidence is now a fact because 97% of them agree. You ever read an academic paper? The biggest circle jerk of "as explained in goober et al. 2006 and expanded on by career academic. 2010 there will be perma frost in 2012" they are the height of confirmation bias.

Their evidence is weak their predictions are flat wrong and the real world is waking up.

You know 97% of the worlds academics probably thought the world was flat for a while I suppose the governments of the day should never have allowed anyone to explore lest they fall to their death good thing the 97% don't always get their way.

What % of Human Biologists think there's only 2 genders?

 

[Poor Form]

What % of Human Biologists think there's only 2 genders?

Probably a rapidly decreasing number as whilst in their formative school years they'd be hammered about how there are infinite genders.

 

[SSwans2011]

So their opinion based on the evidence is now a fact because 97% of them agree. You ever read an academic paper? The biggest circle jerk of "as explained in goober et al. 2006 and expanded on by career academic. 2010 there will be perma frost in 2012" they are the height of confirmation bias.

Their evidence is weak their predictions are flat wrong and the real world is waking up.

You know 97% of the worlds academics probably thought the world was flat for a while I suppose the governments of the day should never have allowed anyone to explore lest they fall to their death good thing the 97% don't always get their way.

I'm not going to waste my time if you think a consensus of more than 97% of scientists is not a valid reason to take action on climate change.

Their evidence is empirical. The flat earth comparison is downright bizarre and meaningless. Aristotle discovered the earth was round a measly 2500 years ago so we shouldn't believe an overwhelming scientific consensus in 2019?

The real world is indeed waking up to your BS. A small minority of tinfoil hat types are choosing to reject empirical evidence while the scientific consensus INCREASES.

 

[Poor Form]

I'm not going to waste my time if you think a consensus of more than 97% of scientists is not a valid reason to take action on climate change.

Their evidence is empirical. The flat earth comparison is downright bizarre and meaningless. Aristotle discovered the earth was round a measly 2500 years ago so we shouldn't believe an overwhelming scientific consensus in 2019?

The real world is indeed waking up to your BS. A small minority of tinfoil hat types are choosing to reject empirical evidence while the scientific consensus INCREASES.

Drivel, any evidence that comes out that disagrees no matter where it comes from is thrown out as "vested interests" in spite of the fact that the largest players in the renewable space are the same people that own the fossil fuel space as well.

The reason to not take action is that technology and ingenuity will solve and indeed are already solving the issue, I don't think paying billions to fail to solve a non-issue is a good idea, so glad enough Australians agreed with me the liberals target is exactly where we should be doing our part but not risking our economic future at the same time you might say a bet both ways.

 

[JackOutback]

Climate change deniers are equivalent to anti-vaxxers and not really worth engaging with. Those that believe in climate change but think technology will solve it are optimistic, potentially right, but gambling everyone’s future on their own self interest. It’s worth doing as much as we can until said tech arrives.

 

[Man0gwaR74]

Climate change deniers are equivalent to anti-vaxxers and not really worth engaging with. Those that believe in climate change but think technology will solve it are optimistic, potentially right, but gambling everyone’s future on their own self interest. It’s worth doing as much as we can until said tech arrives.

regardless of the deniers and whether climate change is as serious as the fearmongering, IT NOT OUR RESPONSIBILITY coz we didn't put ourselves in this position! The corporate powers that have been destroying our planet, are the ones that should be contributing to cleaning up the mess that THEY have made! For all the electricity that we save and carbon footprints that we try to avoid as individuals, THEY make thousands more through their industrial exploits and to be ignorant to that just shows how naive you choose to be!

 

[Engimal v3]

Maybe by your standards but it's basically just using a device called our brain, you should try it sometime!

So discounting scientific consensus on climate change because political polls for the 2019 Australian Federal Election were incorrect is 'using your brain'?

 

[SSwans2011]

It's the cOaL loBbY though literally didn't read my post or more likely only read what you wanted to read, makes sense why you'd be in the Labor camp no need to sweat the details on any issue right? Just do what feels right.

Yep just do what feels right like ignoring more than 97% of all scientists on climate change without any compelling evidence to refute the facts.

I do see they are cutting some funding to the ABC.

Good start that.

Spoken like someone that only wants "news" to reflect their opinion. 70%+ conservative news representation not enough for you?

regardless of the deniers and whether climate change is as serious as the fearmongering, IT NOT OUR RESPONSIBILITY coz we didn't put ourselves in this position! The corporate powers that have been destroying our planet, are the ones that should be contributing to cleaning up the mess that THEY have made! For all the electricity that we save and carbon footprints that we try to avoid as individuals, THEY make thousands more through their industrial exploits and to be ignorant to that just shows how naive you choose to be!

This is remarkable logic. Climate change is the fault of corporate powers so let's elect a government in the pocket of these corporate powers.

 

[Man0gwaR74]

These are surveys of scientists. A very, VERY small minority don't believe in man-made climate change. Show some evidence on the contrary or admit you're full of ****.

Men don't pay their wages, corporations do! Imagine if as a scientist, you denied climate change and then suddenly can't find any employment. I'd also like to know how many of them are indoctrinated by universities to be commie Leftists coz it common knowledge that communism is openly promoted in universities. It's a small price to pay to lie for global communism isn't it? Communism to them may be more important than telling the truth! It appears that socialism(communism) is pretty important to you Lefties and you've already shown me that you are prepared to lie for it!

 

[Poor Form]

Men don't pay their wages, corporations do! Imagine if as a scientist, you denied climate change and then suddenly can't find any employment. I'd also like to know how many of them are indoctrinated by universities to be commie Leftists coz it common knowledge that communism is openly promoted in universities. It's a small price to pay to lie for global communism isn't it? Communism to them may be more important than telling the truth! It appears that socialism(communism) is pretty important to you Lefties and you've already shown me that you are prepared to lie for it!

Thing is they wouldn't be lying, it's such heavy indoctrination that they literally can't see any other possibility I know it because I was a true believer for a long time don't even know what changed my mind tbh.

 

[SSwans2011]

Men don't pay their wages, corporations do! Imagine if as a scientist, you denied climate change and then suddenly can't find any employment. I'd also like to know how many of them are indoctrinated by universities to be commie Leftists coz it common knowledge that communism is openly promoted in universities. It's a small price to pay to lie for global communism isn't it? Communism to them may be more important than telling the truth! It appears that socialism(communism) is pretty important to you Lefties and you've already shown me that you are prepared to lie for it!

Scientists are Communists and climate change is a Communist conspiracy now. Over 97% of scientists are in on this huge lie. Remarkable.

Say, what's your take on vaccinations? Communist conspiracy?