Climate Change Arguing

[Better Loosen Up]

The science is settled why would you say it's not? What universe are you living in? Fantasy ,conspiracy world of whack job climate change deniers? History will judge the deniers very harshly . There's overwhelming consensus no matter where you look, why do you hope and pretend there is not?

The science is certainly NOT settled! In fact there are many climate change graphs covering up to thousands of years that completely fly in the face of the man made, elevated levels of CO2 argument.

 

[Socrates2]

The science is certainly NOT settled! In fact there are many climate change graphs covering up to thousands of years that completely fly in the face of the man made, elevated levels of CO2 argument.

Give it up man and get with the program.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

Give it up man and get with the program.

What? And join the man made climate change religion? Count me out thanks. I'd rather wait for the truth.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Greg Jericho has an article in the Guardian drawing parallels between the govt's insistence they are acting on climate change while denying the increasingly early starts to the bushfire season is in any way linked to the climate, and his own recent experience with skin cancer.

He sarcastically comments "It is bizarre the Cancer Council hasn’t gone with the campaign slogan of “the growing number of moles on your body should prompt further thought”

 

[Socrates2]

What? And join the man made climate change religion? Count me out thanks. I'd rather wait for the truth.

Where you gonna find the truth? Foxnews? You've gone off the deep end into fantasy conspiracy and you're embarrassing yourself. I feel sorry for you.

 

[its free real estate]

I know where you are getting at with this but your arguement is fatally flawed. The atmosphere of Venus is MAJORITY CO2. CO2 on Earth has a much, much smaller percentage and would never become a majority unless our oceans disappeared, which would fly in the face of climate change propaganda telling us that are oceans are going to swallow us up.

Does this mean the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere is a factor? Because the denialists resort to pretending that the composition of the atmosphere matters at all.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

Does this mean the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere is a factor? Because the denialists resort to pretending that the composition of the atmosphere matters at all.

When the contribution of CO2 in Earth's greenhouse gases is measured in tens of parts per million and when man made CO2 only makes up a portion of that total, comparing it to Venus' atmosphere which is majority CO2 is pretty pointless.

 

[Socrates2]

When the contribution of CO2 in Earth's greenhouse gases is measured in tens of parts per million and when man made CO2 only makes up a portion of that total, comparing it to Venus' atmosphere which is majority CO2 is pretty pointless.

How come you just make things up with no proper evidence?

 

[Better Loosen Up]

Where you gonna find the truth? Foxnews? You've gone off the deep end into fantasy conspiracy and you're embarrassing yourself. I feel sorry for you.

I really don't need you to feel sorry for me, but thanks anyway.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

How come you just make things up with no proper evidence?

 

[Better Loosen Up]

How come you just make things up with no proper evidence?

In addition, why do the Vostok ice cores (in Antarctica) show that temperature drives CO2 levels with around an 800 year lag? This completely opposes the man made CO2 climate change narrative.

You can actually look this up yourself if you wish, but i doubt you will. Though when you think about it in regards to warmer climates and photosynthesis, it actually makes a lot of sense.

 

[Socrates2]

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So you have a graph showing gases in the atmosphere what's your point here? How does this disprove climate change.You still have not presented a feasible argument for anything !

 

[Socrates2]

In addition, why do the Vostok ice cores (in Antarctica) show that temperature drives CO2 levels with around an 800 year lag? This completely opposes the man made CO2 climate change narrative.

You can actually look this up yourself if you wish, but i doubt you will. Though when you think about it in regards to warmer climates and photosynthesis, it actually makes a lot of sense.

Give it up champ, anyone can cherry pick supposed evidence ,the thing is you're not an expert and your points are deliberately misleading to fit your denialist ideology. Call me crazy but I tend to value the full picture presented by climate scientists and you are allowing yourself to be brainwashed by psuedo-science and coal lobby stooges. You've already said Trump knows climate change is fake, you should probably stop there.The sad thing is you spreading this rubbish to other gullible people. Hottest year on record year after year and you do free propaganda for the coal lobby. Are you an anti-vaxer well? I heard Baron Trump's autism was caused by vaccinations! Lol To finish you are way out of your depth.Leave the science to the experts mate, you're not an expert, you're guy on a computer on a football forum.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

So you have a graph showing gases in the atmosphere what's your point here? How does this disprove climate change.You still have not presented a feasible argument for anything !

To be honest, i can't be f***ed going into any real detail with you on here because lets face it, it would be completely pointless and a waste of my time.

Please also direct me to where you have presented a feasible arguement in this thread since you are accusing me of the same (and please don't post that ridiculous 97% chart again)

 

[Socrates2]

To be honest, i can't be f***ed going into any real detail with you on here because lets face it, it would be completely pointless and a waste of my time.

Please also direct me to where you have presented a feasible arguement in this thread since you are accusing me of the same (and please don't post that ridiculous 97% chart again)

I don't care for your evidence mate because you have no expertise in the area. Don't you get it?

 

[Socrates2]

Can we move this thread to Conspiracy theories, I'm worried the denialists will influence gullible people! What a joke!

 

[Better Loosen Up]

Give it up champ, anyone can cherry pick supposed evidence ,the thing is you're not an expert and your points are deliberately misleading to fit your denialist ideology. Call me crazy but I tend to value the full picture presented by climate scientists and you are allowing yourself to be brainwashed by psuedo-science and coal lobby stooges. You've already said Trump knows climate change is fake, you should probably stop there.The sad thing is you spreading this rubbish to other gullible people. Hottest year on record year after year and you do free propaganda for the coal lobby. Are you an anti-vaxer well? I heard Baron Trump's autism was caused by vaccinations! Lol To finish you are way out of your depth.Leave the science to the experts mate, you're not an expert, you're guy on a computer on a football forum.

Excuse me? I NEVER said that Trump knows climate change is fake.

Also, since when have the ice cores had anything to do with psuedo-science or coal lobby stooges? The study of ice cores has led to an understanding of our planets history in many ways, not just climate change.

Keep going with your slandering without any real substance. I don't believe it is getting you anywhere. It certainly doesn't speak volumes for your intelligence

 

[Better Loosen Up]

I don't care for your evidence mate because you have no expertise in the area. Don't you get it?

It's not MY evidence. It is evidence produced by experts who have far more knowledge that you or i could ever claim to have on the issue.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

Give it up champ, anyone can cherry pick supposed evidence ,the thing is you're not an expert and your points are deliberately misleading to fit your denialist ideology. Call me crazy but I tend to value the full picture presented by climate scientists and you are allowing yourself to be brainwashed by psuedo-science and coal lobby stooges. You've already said Trump knows climate change is fake, you should probably stop there.The sad thing is you spreading this rubbish to other gullible people. Hottest year on record year after year and you do free propaganda for the coal lobby. Are you an anti-vaxer well? I heard Baron Trump's autism was caused by vaccinations! Lol To finish you are way out of your depth.Leave the science to the experts mate, you're not an expert, you're guy on a computer on a football forum.

Oh by the way, I am certainly not an anti-vaxer either.

Why don't you head off back to the bay where the conversations are undoubtedly more suited to you.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

Can we move this thread to Conspiracy theories, I'm worried the denialists will influence gullible people! What a joke!

You're really falling apart here aren't you?

 

[its free real estate]

When the contribution of CO2 in Earth's greenhouse gases is measured in tens of parts per million and when man made CO2 only makes up a portion of that total, comparing it to Venus' atmosphere which is majority CO2 is pretty pointless.

Hardly. It illustrates why atmospheric composition matters. As previously stated, denialists pretend that changing the composition of the atmosphere does not matter at all.

 

[Socrates2]

It's not MY evidence. It is evidence produced by experts who have far more knowledge that you or i could ever claim to have on the issue.

Lol, yes your experts are all legit aren't they? The scientific method involves observing, weighing and measuring data and then coming to a conclusion. What you're doing is listening to your favourite politician, backing his uneducated opinion, then working backwards to justisfy your fake news. That's not how science works.What's you science background? Did you at least do year ten biology?

 

[Better Loosen Up]

Lol, yes your experts are all legit aren't they? The scientific method involves observing, weighing and measuring data and then coming to a conclusion. What you're doing is listening to your favourite politician, backing his uneducated opinion, then working backwards to justisfy your fake news. That's not how science works.What's you science background? Did you at least do year ten biology?

These experts that i follow are some of the leading scientists in their field of climate science. They have also won many awards (from NASA etc) and received the highest accolades in their field. People who are worthwhile reading.

As for politicians, they are the absolute LAST people i would listen to on this subject. Keep trying though. But once again, you're responses are nothing more than slander and wrongful accusations.

I feel i have given you every opportunity to have a reasonable and worthwhile discussion on this issue but you have produced absolutely nothing!

Hence, I won't bother with you any further.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

Hardly. It illustrates why atmospheric composition matters. As previously stated, denialists pretend that changing the composition of the atmosphere does not matter at all.

Venus is boiling largely in part to the MAJORITY levels of CO2 in its atmosphere.

If Earths atmosphere was majority CO2, we would probably be boiling too. But we are not and i'm sure you would agree that there would need to be a monumental disaster on this planet for that to become the case.

To what extent has man made CO2 changed the Earths atmospheric composition?

 

[its free real estate]

Venus is boiling largely in part to the MAJORITY levels of CO2 in its atmosphere.

If Earths atmosphere was majority CO2, we would probably be boiling too. But we are not and i'm sure you would agree that there would need to be a monumental disaster on this planet for that to become the case.

We’re not talking about boiling, we’re talking about 2-4 degrees of warming

To what extent has man made CO2 changed the Earths atmospheric composition?

Isn’t this being measured now? Haven’t a bunch of records been broken in Europe this summer?