Politics Climate Change Paradox (cont in part 2)

[Snake_Baker]

University offers students struggling with anxiety about climate change THERAPY to tackle their feelings of 'anger, guilt and grief'

• Sessions being held at the University of Derby by Dr Jamie Bird
• They involve participants trying to express feelings through art and poetry
• Student Claire Prowse felt she may not have a future because of climate crisis

University gives students anxious about climate change 'art therapy'

The sessions, at the University of Derby (pictured), involve participants trying to express their feelings about climate change through art and 'poetry and movement'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Snake_Baker]

Interesting paper. The models come up short again.

 

[Bazzar]

University offers students struggling with anxiety about climate change THERAPY to tackle their feelings of 'anger, guilt and grief'

• Sessions being held at the University of Derby by Dr Jamie Bird
• They involve participants trying to express feelings through art and poetry
• Student Claire Prowse felt she may not have a future because of climate crisis

University gives students anxious about climate change 'art therapy'

The sessions, at the University of Derby (pictured), involve participants trying to express their feelings about climate change through art and 'poetry and movement'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

No doubt they'll be taught the fine art of "Jazz Hands"

 

[Snake_Baker]

No doubt they'll be taught the fine art of "Jazz Hands"

They need a month in boot camp.

 

[Deliverance]

Really?

Yes.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Yes.

Fantastic!

Can you please link me to the papers that show where these loci are identified?

 

[Deliverance]

Fantastic!

Can you please link me to the papers that show where these loci are identified?

No need to, it's in every community in the world, since the dawn of time. If you want a recent example, let's take the global effort to overcome the Coronavirus.

 

[Snake_Baker]

70 minutes, but watch it.

 

[Snake_Baker]

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Staggering.

 

[Bazzar]

“There is no ambiguity or wriggle room that the bushfires are linked with climate change … And I don’t think that there is a bushfire expert that won’t make that link. The strength of the link can be argued, but the existence of the link is not disputable.”

Prof Andy Pitman explained the science behind this link to Crikey: high carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, in some places, leads to “greening”, meaning more vegetation — like leaves, branches and even trees — growing above the soil. When you are hit with a drought, the vegetation become stressed and drops to the ground or dries out, becoming fuel for fires. So when a fire breaks out, the dead vegetation feeds bigger, more powerful flames that are harder to fight."

I would have thought that's a good thing, higher crop yields?

Top climate scientist trashes Tony Abbott for using him to deny climate change

'It's frustrating that years and years of research can be dismissed by a politician. The reputation of The Australian is being trashed by publishing utter rubbish.'

www.crikey.com.au

 

[Snake_Baker]

"Top Climate Scientist" = Snake Oil Salesman.

Pittman is another professional hysteric:

Academic & research | Climate Change Research Centre - UNSW Sydney

Information on who to see for BEES academic and research advice at UNSW, with links to relevant departments, profiles and further useful details.

www.ccrc.unsw.edu.au

 

[Corpuscles]

70 minutes, but watch it.

Snakey, I very much appreciate the information you share in this thread. Some are outstanding
However, I personally do not think this is one of the better pieces. or examples.

The presenter is concentrating on and contesting an illustrative oversimplified illustration. I would be staggered if in the actual highly complex computer models developed by Climatologists that they do not factor in the spherical nature of the planet, nor take into account angle of incidence of sunlight. However I am not familiar with the variables in such models and do not pretend to understand them.

If so his paper is almost worthless and is in some ways being hysterical as well.

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Yes, at face value it is obviously incorrect and a stupid comment.

However I think the brief comment is ambiguous, and not very clear . Perhaps he was really meaning reflection of energy (sunlight EMF) rather than heat transfer as in thermodynamics.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Snakey, I very much appreciate the information you share in this thread. Some are outstanding
However, I personally do not think this is one of the better pieces. or examples.

The presenter is concentrating on and contesting an illustrative oversimplified illustration. I would be staggered if in the actual highly complex computer models developed by Climatologists that they do not factor in the spherical nature of the planet, nor take into account angle of incidence of sunlight. However I am not familiar with the variables in such models and do not pretend to understand them.

If so his paper is almost worthless and is in some ways being hysterical as well.

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Yes, at face value it is obviously incorrect and a stupid comment.

He is critiquing some of the hacks that are involved in the "climate science" peer review process.

 

[Corpuscles]

He is critiquing some of the hacks that are involved in the "climate science" peer review process.

I realise that. However imho (non expert) his paper likely does not deserve proper peer review nor publication.

If my guess is correct and the real models take into account these factors. Then the reviewers ought to have simply stated such in a reply email to him. End of the matter.

On the other hand if they really actually do merely average sunlight across the whole flat earth /globe , which is what he is suggesting, then the whole climate science is a complete waste of time and total BS! (regardless of the flaws in peer review processes)

 

[owen87]

I would have thought that's a good thing, higher crop yields?

Who knew something could be both positive and negative.

 

[Mofra]

Interesting paper. The models come up short again.

It is interesting, will need to do more research on water feedback.

It does seem ridiculously easy to get published in some journals: https://scholarlyoa.com/finnish-man-uses-easy-open-access-journals-to-publish-junk-climate-science/

Found this interesting re: peer review process

The peer review of Ollila (2016)

Climate skeptics occasionally publish papers in journals featured on Beall’s list of predatory journals. Various blogs will then proclaim the new addition to the peer-reviewed literature. And…

quantpalaeo.wordpress.com

http://www.sdiarticle2.org/prh/PSIJ_33/2016/Rev_PSIJ_23242_Joh_ANON.pdf

 

[Snake_Baker]

It is interesting, will need to do more research on water feedback.

It does seem ridiculously easy to get published in some journals: https://scholarlyoa.com/finnish-man-uses-easy-open-access-journals-to-publish-junk-climate-science/

This is where bureaucracy crosses the line and pollutes science.

Look no further than sociology, which they have turned in to a complete farce.

 

[Snake_Baker]

No need to.........

In other words, you're completely in over your head and bullshitting again.

The natural sciences care nought for your political "feelings".

 

[Snake_Baker]

Worst Locust Swarm to Hit East Africa in Decades Linked to Climate Crisis - EcoWatch

East Africa is facing its worst locust infestation in decades, and the climate crisis is partly to blame.The UN's Food and Agricultural Organization (FAO) said that Ethiopia and Somalia had not seen a swarm this bad in 25 years, while Kenya was facing its largest infestation in 70 years. The...

www.ecowatch.com

 

[Deliverance]

In other words, you're completely in over your head and bullshitting again.

The natural sciences care nought for your political "feelings".

And the scientific world cares naught for your "feelings". You should learn a bit about science at some stage.

"Humans' ability to collaborate to obtain otherwise inaccessible goals may be one main cause for our success as a species. Comparative psychological research with children and our closest primate relatives is starting to elucidate the phylogenetic roots as well as the unique psychological mechanisms that support our cooperative behavior"

NYAS Publications

Humans’ ability to collaborate to obtain otherwise inaccessible goals may be one main cause for our success as a species. Comparative psychological research with children and our closest primate rela...

nyaspubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com

 

[Snake_Baker]

Indian "envirocorps" have wheeled out their very own Greta doll.

‘Stop calling me Greta of India’: 8yo climate activist says comparisons to Thunberg ‘delete’ her own campaign

Young Indian environmental activist Licypriya Kangujam slammed journalists for comparing her to Greta Thunberg, despite the fact that she began campaigning before the world knew who her Swedish colleague even was.

www.rt.com

 

[Deliverance]

In the meantime, the dinosaurs are on the way out. Hopefully our leaders can engineer a safe landing for our economy.

The future of coal has already been decided in boardrooms around the globe - ABC News

amp.abc.net.au

 

[Kwality]

In the meantime, the dinosaurs are on the way out. Hopefully our leaders can engineer a safe landing for our economy.

The future of coal has already been decided in boardrooms around the globe - ABC News

amp.abc.net.au

A selective globe, no China, no India ..... mustnt have boardrooms, so ignore them.

 

[Snake_Baker]

 

[Snake_Baker]