Politics Climate Change Paradox (cont in part 2)

[Marcel Proust]

No it isn’t. Science is proven. You can’t just pick and choose when you want to follow science.

Not always. The sugar industry paid off nerds to lie about fatty food 50 years ago for example

 

[Kwality]

We can stop selling them coal, or raise the price significantly. That will slow them down.

They have given us the sars .... all over now baby blu?
Australian coal exports to China once topped A$1.78 billion (US$1.4 billion) in June 2018, but have dwindled to zero in 2021.
21 May 2021

After 356 days at sea, Australian coal shipment docks in China

The Jag Anand left the Australian port of Gladstone in May last year, laden with 174,000 tonnes of coal, but was unable to dock after China implemented a ban on several Australian commodities.

www.scmp.com

 

[Baltimore Jack]

 

[Kwality]

What are you doing to reduce emissions in your own country?

You are the one virtue signalling.
Spent a few years working to reduce major shopping centres carbon footprint, does that count ?

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

You are the one virtue signalling.
Spent a few years working to reduce major shopping centres carbon footprint, does that count ?

What does virtue signalling mean?

 

[Kwality]

You're a broken record. For the 3rd time we don't live in China, it is a separate country.

You are aware that whatever we do makes no difference to global warming. Until China & India deliver changes YOU are 'p155 n' into the wind & irrelevant to boot.

 

[Kwality]

What does virtue signalling mean?

'look at me'.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

You are aware that whatever we do makes no difference to global warming. Until China & India deliver changes YOU are 'p155 n' into the wind & irrelevant to boot.

With all due respect you have no credibility on climate change.
You can't go from being a climate denier to having a worthwhile opinion.
You put your eggs in the wrong basket .

 

[Kwality]

With all due respect you have no credibility on climate change.
You can't go from being a climate denier to having a worthwhile opinion.
You put your eggs in the wrong basket .

Climate change is not 2 teams as you seem to have been told.
On one side is the deniers on the other the alarmists, & in between are the rest of us who dont buy the denial or the alarmist propaganda.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Climate change is not 2 teams as you seem to have been told.
On one side is the deniers on the other the alarmists, & in between are the rest of us who dont buy the denial or the alarmist propaganda.

You think climate scientists are 'alarmists' though which is ignorant.

 

[Kwality]

You think climate scientists are 'alarmists' though which is ignorant.

No I think some are, foolish overegging damages the climate change discussion.
See Tim Flannery, told us it wasnt going to rain & then bought a property on the Hawkesbury River: https://www.climatecouncil.org.au/author/tim-flannery/

 

[JackOutback]

I've not noticed erosion being any more problematic in that time.

Repeat after me: anecdotes are not evidence.

As an aside, the most recent data is the most relevant. The last 15 years are more relevant than your 50, just like the last 150 years of industrial revolution are more relevant than billions of years that include once-in-a-millennia events.

 

[Marcel Proust]

Regional authorities in Sicily have recorded temperatures of 48.8 degrees Celsius, which if confirmed would be a new Italian and European record

 

[Kwality]

Repeat after me: anecdotes are not evidence.

As an aside, the most recent data is the most relevant. The last 15 years are more relevant than your 50, just like the last 150 years of industrial revolution are more relevant than billions of years that include once-in-a-millennia events.

NOTE: I did not claim it to be evidence. Stop putting words in other peoples mouth. Usually there is this thing called CONTEXT.

So NO, I have no need to repeat after you.

 

[JackOutback]

NOTE: I did not claim it to be evidence. Stop putting words in other peoples mouth. Usually there is this thing called CONTEXT.

So NO, I have no need to repeat after you.

You repeatedly disagreed with another poster based on your very limited eyeballing of a situation. You were certainly using it to guide your opinion. And that’s all it is… an incorrect opinion contradicted by evidence.

 

[demondavey]

Regional authorities in Sicily have recorded temperatures of 48.8 degrees Celsius, which if confirmed would be a new Italian and European record

That’s unbelievable. And people don’t believe in climate change. Astonishing. It won’t be long until Australia records temperatures that high.

 

[Fadge]

That’s unbelievable. And people don’t believe in climate change. Astonishing. It won’t be long until Australia records temperatures that high.

I think you'll find that temperature has already been exceeded in a number of Australian cities.

 

[Kwality]

You repeatedly disagreed with another poster based on your very limited eyeballing of a situation. You were certainly using it to guide your opinion. And that’s all it is… an incorrect opinion contradicted by evidence.

You are deliberately misusing my comments to justify your ignorance. Stop scrambling about & acknowledge you were wrong.

 

[demondavey]

I think you'll find that temperature has already been exceeded in a number of Australian cities.

Wasn’t sure. I know Melbourne hit 46 on black Saturday in 2009 I believe.

 

[Kwality]

I think you'll find that temperature has already been exceeded in a number of Australian cities.

Long before climate change ... https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/weather/marble-bar-sweats-through-record-491c-day-ng-b881060097z

48.8 may be news in Europe where Europe is its whole world.
Sure Marble Bar is not a city but the idea that this is news is nonsense.

 

[demondavey]

Long before climate change ... https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/weather/marble-bar-sweats-through-record-491c-day-ng-b881060097z

48.8 may be news in Europe where Europe is its whole world.
Sure Marble Bar is not a city but the idea that this is news is nonsense.

Ah that’s not really ‘long before climate change’. That’s 2018. In-line with record temperature increases due to climate change.

 

[Frank Bunn]

Of course not, warming ocean currents absolutely poses no threat to humanity, oceans are not warming at all Alan Watts said so.

Tell that to Kevin Rudd, Steve Bracks, Danial Andrews and his billionaire mates, Barrack Obama. I could go on. They don't actually give a s**t about the climate or rising oceans. It's just a dog whistle for political control.

Malcolm Turnbull's idea of lockdown is fishing from his harbourfront property set on 1940 sq metres, has a swimming pool and a boat shed as well as the private jetty.

#WereAllInthisTogether

 

[demondavey]

Tell that to Kevin Rudd, Steve Bracks, Danial Andrews and his billionaire mates, Barrack Obama. I could go on. They don't actually give a sh*t about the climate or rising oceans. It's just a dog whistle for political control.

Malcolm Turnbull's idea of lockdown is fishing from his harbourfront property set on 1940 sq metres, has a swimming pool and a boat shed as well as the private jetty.

#WereAllInthisTogether

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Who cares if he is fishing from his little pier? He is rich, he has done well for himself. I am sure he’d like to see his grandkids and kids etc

 

[Frank Bunn]

Who cares if he is fishing from his little pier? He is rich, he has done well for himself. I am sure he’d like to see his grandkids and kids etc

It's an illustration of the widening split in society between the decision makers - and ordinary people who have to obey the rules.

The elite go fishing on their private piers, take a trip into space, throw a 3 day party in their coastal mansion where A listers fly in by private jet.

 

[demondavey]

It's an illustration of the widening split in society between the decision makers - and ordinary people who have to obey the rules.

The elite go fishing on their private piers, take a trip into space, throw a 3 day party in their coastal mansion where A listers fly in by private jet.

Turnbull isn’t breaking any rules. It’s his property isn’t it? We all have to obey them. Turnbull is a pretty ordinary person, you just don’t like it because he has a pier and he is rich.