Coach Coaches under most pressure for 2021

Coaches under most pressure for 2021

  • Leon Cameron

    Votes: 91 43.1%
  • Nathan Buckley

    Votes: 94 44.5%
  • Simon Goodwin

    Votes: 111 52.6%
  • Chris Scott

    Votes: 9 4.3%
  • Ken Hinkley

    Votes: 7 3.3%
  • Bevo

    Votes: 11 5.2%
  • Other

    Votes: 6 2.8%
  • Stuart Dew

    Votes: 5 2.4%
  • Ken Hinkley

    Votes: 8 3.8%

  • Total voters
    211

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cotter101

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On a slight tangent here

Was 2020 the most experienced coaching group ever?

We had 7 premiership coaches. And several very experienced non-premiership coaches.

Seems like coaches aren't getting the chop as quickly as they were 10 or 15 years ago
I think 2007/2008 probably has more premiership coaches at the times. I counted 9. Don’t quote me on that.

By memory still had Malthouse, Lethal, Sheed and Pagan from the top of my head with 3 more coaches added after different teams won 04,05,06,07.
 

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PJays

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Nov 2, 2020
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I think 2007/2008 probably has more premiership coaches at the times. I counted 9. Don’t quote me on that.

By memory still had Malthouse, Lethal, Sheed and Pagan from the top of my head with 3 more coaches added after different teams won 04,05,06,07.
Yeah fair point, that does sound about right.

It's also all the coaches with 5+ yrs but no premiership- Buckley, Cameron, Ratten, Hinkley.

Fagan and Goodwin have a few years behind them too. Just my feeling that clubs are more invested with long term thinking and more likely to keep coaches for longer periods these days. I don't have time to calculate but I'd love to know: average total years coached, and average total years of tenure at current club from 2020, and compare those 2 numbers to say, 2000 and 2010. Could be wrong but suspect longer now.
 

Dazb86

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Yep and playing of Dunkley in the ruck was stupid and has subsequently played a part in Josh wanting out
Tries to be too far outside the box at times. The versatility mantra he's spruiked since the grand final win hasn't been a success either. Often plays players out of their best positions for no real reason. I get the feeling he still has no idea what the best 22 looks like.
 

queensberryrules

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Aug 16, 2019
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If Dimma feels the heat strongly to bring home 3 in a row, and if that pressure cascades down to the players, then watch out. Dimma and tiges have shown great response to pressure, they love it.
 

daniher dynasty

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On a slight tangent here

Was 2020 the most experienced coaching group ever?

We had 7 premiership coaches. And several very experienced non-premiership coaches.

Seems like coaches aren't getting the chop as quickly as they were 10 or 15 years ago
Certainly not this year given that sacking contracted coaches is an expensive past -time and the AFL would have taken a very dim view in 2020 of clubs needlessly splashing out cash. Similar considerations are likely to apply next season so it's unlikely anyone is going to get sacked until later in the season and probably then only if their current contract expires at year's end.
 

Goomba1973

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People saying "Buckley is in trouble if Collingwood miss the finals", are you tipping Collingwood to miss the finals in 2021? If so, why?
Backline is Elite however they're inability to attract a gun tall forward ( sorry but Cox having 6 good games a season does not count) , Sidebottom and Pendles do not appear to have any elite level ball users to replace them , in their defense their ball using ability is next level and would be very very hard for any team to replace, and they don't have too many games left in them. Treloar and Stephenson essentially being told to leave, DeGoey can't seem to add consistency to his moments of WTFWT brilliance and that is all on the field.
There appears to be something a little stinky behind the scenes there at the moment and that also may have some affect them not making finals.
 

a_fighting_fury

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May 7, 2007
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What results?

He has never made a GF like Cameron or Buckley and has won as many finals as Goodwin since 2014.

Not that I think he is the most under pressure, but the idea he's delivered more than the other coaches listed is false.
If you put his results on a graph he’s on an upward curve, and I think that’s what’s giving him some kudos.






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reg_lower91

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May 7, 2007
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You have to be taking the piss ..... surely ??
Absolutely not. Internal expectations this year were to have made finals and we missed. If we miss again next year, there's no doubt in my mind that we'll be looking for a new coach. The board won't gamble, they'll take matters in to their own hands.
 

LordLucifer

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Mar 20, 2002
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Absolutely not. Internal expectations this year were to have made finals and we missed. If we miss again next year, there's no doubt in my mind that we'll be looking for a new coach. The board won't gamble, they'll take matters in to their own hands.
If that was the internal expectation, then they shouldn't have appointed Teague in the first place.

2020 was his first full season as senior coach, to fling him at the end of 2021 would mean those who appointed him have made a gross error in judgement. More than likely they got caught up in the "Teague Train" hysteria and thought it would cost them memberships if they didn't.

Either way, sacking Teague next year should also mean that some of the administration has to go as well.
 

Virus

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If Ken Hinkley misses finals does he get sacked? For mine it’s Leon Cameron and it should’ve been done years ago.
 

the Ziebull

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Nov 14, 2010
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If Ken Hinkley misses finals does he get sacked? For mine it’s Leon Cameron and it should’ve been done years ago.
Their fans will march him out they already dint like him despite making finals
 

Kwality

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Well we did have Freo debuting with water polo tactics under Neesham, so stranger things have happened.

But for mine, Goodwin is under the most pressure.
2nd place: whoever replaces Goodwin.
Neesham had successfully coached in the WAFL, 2 flags as a player coach & 2 flags as a coach.
 

the Ziebull

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Post trade period I think there’s more pressure on bucks and Chris scott

cats going all in so if they go backwards goodbye chris

bucks managed his players poorly so if they implode also goodbye
 

markm106

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Simon Goodwin under a fair amount of pressure. Miss the finals and he’s gone. And his replacement possibly sitting next to him in the box. Yze will be in contention for a senior job at some point.
 

Toump Ass

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Hardwick.

Best team ever, but banging the sales lady behind "Mrs. Hardwick" aka Captain Cotchin's "Second Family" could ruin the Dimmasty. Would be a massive shame.
 

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