Coach Coaching Options

[Mofra]

The club would probably hire Leon Cameron.

I am 100% against this.
We need energy, not some clever strategy. Spirit. That (almost) universally comes from first year coaches.

The last 'recycled' coach to take a club to a flag is Mick Malthouse in 2010, before that Leigh Matthews in Brisbane's three-peat (with an extra 5% salary cap).

Yze seems pretty close to a top gig.

 

[Mofra]

Yze as head coach, get Matty Boyd back as defensive coach, he will come back once Bevo is gone.

Matty Boyd would be my no 1 assistant coach target.
He is no nonsense, and he'd relate to the 'non-stars' considering he was slogging it out at Frankston seconds as a 19 year old before getting his opportunity.

 

[doggy_dog]

Don Pyke.

Let the flaming begin.

If he can show genuine remorse and growth from the Adelaide camp I'd be willing.

Has a great record and would suit our list well.

Pyke is the one for me too. Adelaide were a machine under him (before the camp debacle obviously but Burton etc wear a lot of that blame too). He completely transformed Sydney’s ball movement too and was a massive reason for their success last year.

Agree with others whoever it ends up being needs to be allowed to choose their staff as well, and we actually need to cough up and hire some blokes. For too long we’ve been behind the ball with our assistants

 

[fred cook]

Pyke is the one for me too. Adelaide were a machine under him (before the camp debacle obviously but Burton etc wear a lot of that blame too). He completely transformed Sydney’s ball movement too and was a massive reason for their success last year.

Agree with others whoever it ends up being needs to be allowed to choose their staff as well, and we actually need to cough up and hire some blokes. For too long we’ve been behind the ball with our assistants

MATT SPANGHER look at his record 58 goals for Sydney reserves that record says enough and total goals kicked in his AFL career 15

Australian Football - Matt Spangher - Player Bio

australianfootball.com

 

[Mofra]

Left-field assistant option for next year - Trent Cotchin

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Trent Cotchin

Age

35

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.4

5star

K

13.8

5star

HB

9.5

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

3.9

5star

CL

5.2

5star

D

19.0

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

9.5

5star

M

2.7

3star

T

4.3

5star

CL

3.5

4star

D

16.6

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

8.6

5star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.0

3star

. No way he plays next year.

People rave about him as a person off the field, worked under a dream-team coaching duo of Hardwick and Choco Williams. He'd be brilliant in providing ideas to a new club. Young enough to relate to the playing group too.

 

[doggy_dog]

Left-field assistant option for next year - Trent Cotchin. No way he plays next year.

People rave about him as a person off the field, worked under a dream-team coaching duo of Hardwick and Choco Williams. He'd be brilliant in providing ideas to a new club. Young enough to relate to the playing group too.

Would take him in a development/leadership role in a heartbeat

 

[Mofra]

Would take him in a development/leadership role in a heartbeat

Ideally, if we get a coach from somewhere we get an assistant from a different system and bring a lot of new ideas into the club at once.

 

[Martyn_30_]

If the club has to pay out the full contract you can't change the coach anyway, because you'll guarantee the new coach will fail given how ridiculously under resourced they'd be.

 

[BallaratBulldog]

If the club has to pay out the full contract you can't change the coach anyway, because you'll guarantee the new coach will fail given how ridiculously under resourced they'd be.

I heard the rule is they get six months

 

[Freshwater]

Left-field assistant option for next year - Trent Cotchin. No way he plays next year.

People rave about him as a person off the field, worked under a dream-team coaching duo of Hardwick and Choco Williams. He'd be brilliant in providing ideas to a new club. Young enough to relate to the playing group too.

I’d even play him as a sub/assistant coach like Hodge at Brisbane.

 

[doggy_dog]

If the club has to pay out the full contract you can't change the coach anyway, because you'll guarantee the new coach will fail given how ridiculously under resourced they'd be.

If North can be paying out however many head coaches they have over the past few years and still afford Clarko + entourage we should no problem whatsoever.

St Kilda sacked Richardson then Ratten and would be paying Ross megabucks as well as a full new suite of assistants.

We need to actually pull our fingers out spend up on our coaching department. We’re doing well off-field for the first time in forever, if perennially broke clubs like North and St Kilda can do it but we won’t there is something fundamentally wrong at all levels of the club

 

[Hobdog]

Spangher cops a lot of s**t on this board but that Webb campaigner looks like a cooker too. The bloke had only ever been involved in state league football prior to joining us and it shows with how we are playing now.

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Wasn’t he with the Dockers?


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[Dogs_r_barking]

These blokes may be good at their job we don’t really know? But when you have a mate from St Bedes(Maddocks) Spangler, Rohan Smith (who has been there too long) as well, that’s not a good environment for someone who has not played the game at the highest level.
Look who Ross Lyon, love him or hate him is a coaching animal, had as assistants last night. Robert Harvey, Lenny Hayes and Corey Enright! Imagine that quartet with our list?

Enright yes, but don’t agree with ex players you need more coaches with experience from other clubs.

 

[Bulldogs85]

Wasn’t he with the Dockers?


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Yes he was with the Dockers under Ross Lyon funny enough

 

[Dogs_r_barking]

The best sides right now all seem to have ex-senior coaches on their panels. Melbourne has Richardson, the Pies have Bolton and Leppitsch. Sydney has Pyke (and Cameron involved with their academy).

Melbourne had three at one stage, so does Richmond.

 

[Dogs_r_barking]

Caracalla is who I would like, with an ex senior coach to mentor him, and a fresh lot of senior assistant coaches.

No point sinking money into redevelopments if you are starving your business and we have been over the past two years.

 

[Unnamed1]

Not sure I’m going to hyperventilate about a coach yet, wasted effort. I’ll wait until mid-season and see if things are the same

 

[Dogs Rule]

Left-field assistant option for next year - Trent Cotchin. No way he plays next year.

People rave about him as a person off the field, worked under a dream-team coaching duo of Hardwick and Choco Williams. He'd be brilliant in providing ideas to a new club. Young enough to relate to the playing group too.

So, Yze, with assistants Boyd and Cotchin.

I would also be happy if it was Caracella.

Yeah.

 

[doggies ftw]

Yze head coach, with Don Pyke Senior Assistant in charge of stoppages & ball movement, Lade can stay as midfield/ruck coach for now, Boyd defensive coach, Jaymie Graham forward line coach

That’s my dream team

 

[ArNcHiSe]

inexperienced: Yze
Experienced: Pyke

If the Dogs go the Yze route, they need to be aggressive and get solid, experienced assistant coaches who can support Yze and bring in fresh ideas. Even if that includes hiring a freshly fired coach, ie: if Simpson is let go.

 

[TheBont]

Clarko was available last year and the club sat on their hands. Would’ve been perfect.

I wouldn’t mind getting hirdy as an assistant but I know people don’t like him.

 

[geoffjennings79]

I wouldn’t mind getting hirdy as an assistant but I know people don’t like him.

Slight understatement. I don't want Hird anywhere near our club.

 

[TheBont]

Slight understatement. I don't want Hird anywhere near our club.

That’s fair enough mate. You have your opinion I have mine. I think he was severely mistreated and used as a scapegoat at the bombers.

 

[geoffjennings79]

No, this is not a "sack Bevo" thread. His departure is surely a given.

What I want to know is which aspiring coaches comprise the new breed? Who are our best options?
We need someone to (a) restore belief among the players (b) restore a decent game plan (c) anticipate the way the game is going (d) restore faith among the fans (e) get the players fit.

I'd imagine that Brendan Lade gets the temporary gig, maybe for the rest of the season. But who do we give the 2-3 year coaching contract to? I don't think Lade is in the front line of candidates and I would hate us to give him the contract just because he rescues our season to say an 8-15 result. That's the soft way out.

Also how do we restructure our assistant coaching ranks? The current mob are a joke and must surely go the same way as Bevo.

While we are at it, let's start the conversation about Chris Grant's replacement. Great bloke but his star surely sinks alongside Bevo's. Again, I don't want a Footscray old boy. I want a hard nut.

Good thread dogwatch.
But what concerns/interests me is that several measured posters such as yourself are now in the camp to move, not just Beveridge, but all the assistants and Grant.

I completely agree with you btw.

But wholesale changes take some time to take effect. Hopefully there would be no player fallout, as despite appearances he's lost his mojo and the playing group with it, I suspect some of them are still acolytes, as he's the only senior AFL coach they've known.

But yes, I'm keen to sweep a broom through the place, but I want an untried coach with new ideas. Some of the recycled names being thrown up are concerning. History shows a small minority have ultimate success at a second club. And I'm a keen student of history.

 

[Mr. Walker]

That’s fair enough mate. You have your opinion I have mine. I think he was severely mistreated and used as a scapegoat at the bombers.

What is wrong with you???? “ That’s fair enough mate”. That’s not how we respond to someone who has a different opinion to us on this forum! You go down that path and it’s a slippery slope to discussion and open exchange of ideas. This is exactly how nazi germany started.