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Lyons never played 2nds hereSurely dew has some culpability here. Lyon, Wright, Brodie all quality players at other clubs that would make the suns a much better team right now. Was always bewildered by him making them languish in the seconds.
It’s like they enjoy being the laughing stock of list management.Yep, Brodie always was good at what he was good at. Too bad us suns fans are the ones left copping the criticism and either defending the clubs decision or just calling Brodie s**t which he ain’t.
Club owes us so much
For people following Brodie it is no surprise that he is very good inside.You hope watching Brodie play well would stimulate a formal internal review into the current practices at recruiting and coaching level.
You get the feeling that the stubbornness that they demonstrate would mean that this gets ignored rather than recognised as an opportunity to learn from.
I agree with this post. Count me in as a minority as well.For people following Brodie it is no surprise that he is very good inside.
Personally, I am surprised that Freo found way to compensate for his weaknesses so far. Yesterday, he was also involved in a lot of short kicks in offence.
For me more interesting question is who would Brodie replace in our best 22 as inside midfielder? Let's be honest, that's the only position he can play.
It certainly would not be Miller, Rowell, Anderson. Fiorini when he plays inside gets similar numbers. Bowes available soon, Davies developing.
So while I am very happy for Brodie and watch his games with interest I don't think we miss him right now or in the future. But that looks like a minority opinion here
As for list management, trade decisions people seem to forget we got enormous picks assistance the last 3 years, too generous and unnecessary IMHO. I would much rather prefer extra cap to attract top player(s) to more effectively help Suns with re-build.
It distorted Suns position, including list management and trade decisions. I estimated we got equivalent of 11-12 1st and 2nd round picks. I am pretty sure getting Anderson, Davies for free had some impact on Suns midfield list management.
At the moment, I would like to see Fiorini rotating more inside, the same for Rankine.
Yes he did. Was dropped the year he was de-listed: Jarryd LYONS | Players | Season | NEAFLLyons never played 2nds here
Apologies then, but 2 games is hardly languishing in the seconds as the post I quoted said.Yes he did. Was dropped the year he was de-listed: Jarryd LYONS | Players | Season | NEAFL
But if we’d played Brodie the last 3-4 years he may well be significantly better than a number of players you mentioned.For people following Brodie it is no surprise that he is very good inside.
Personally, I am surprised that Freo found way to compensate for his weaknesses so far. Yesterday, he was also involved in a lot of short kicks in offence.
For me more interesting question is who would Brodie replace in our best 22 as inside midfielder? Let's be honest, that's the only position he can play.
It certainly would not be Miller, Rowell, Anderson. Fiorini when he plays inside gets similar numbers. Bowes available soon, Davies developing.
So while I am very happy for Brodie and watch his games with interest I don't think we miss him right now or in the future. But that looks like a minority opinion here
As for list management, trade decisions people seem to forget we got enormous picks assistance the last 3 years, too generous and unnecessary IMHO. I would much rather prefer extra cap to attract top player(s) to more effectively help Suns with re-build.
It distorted Suns position, including list management and trade decisions. I estimated we got equivalent of 11-12 1st and 2nd round picks. I am pretty sure getting Anderson, Davies for free had some impact on Suns midfield list management.
At the moment, I would like to see Fiorini rotating more inside, the same for Rankine. Blaming Steven King for it
Correct. It was pretty amusing yesterday. Every time commentators mentioned Brodie they started with 'former GC player'. Interestingly, they did not say 'former Cats player' Clark.No matter the ins and outs of selection and who he would have had to replace, the perception is that he is now BOG in a team headed for finals and couldn't crack a game in arguably the worst AFL team this century
That's the headline
Wil still looks very very slowCorrect. It was pretty amusing yesterday. Every time commentators mentioned Brodie they started with 'former GC player'. Interestingly, they did not say 'former Cats player' Clark.
Not that it bothers me. I don't really value commentators. If we start winning they will jump on our bandwagon. What bothers me that Saints got overwhelmingly on top of clearances in 3 quarters (we won 2nd quarter). It can't happen today to have any chance winning.
Wil still looks very very slow
People talk about Brodie in here as though he's the only player in our list (which has never made finals) that has any sort of deficiency and somehow it would have been unfair on other players who apparently do all the little things.Personally, I am surprised that Freo found way to compensate for his weaknesses so far. Yesterday, he was also involved in a lot of short kicks in offence.
Stubborness, insecurity, inexperience as a coach all in the mix.You do wonder if he'd make the same decisions nowPeople talk about Brodie in here as though he's the only player in our list (which has never made finals) that has any sort of deficiency and somehow it would have been unfair on other players who apparently do all the little things.
We have VERY few players that have well rounded games. Touk realistically being the only one I can think of.
His deficiencies, I.e his endurance, are so overhyped here. He could/would have been our best clearance player on 75% game time without any problem.
IMO Will's deficiencies were easy to overcome as Fremantle are showing. Same as Lyons at Brisbane and Wright at Essendon. It all lands squarely on Dew for his inability to figure out how to get the best out of his players attributes.
I mean Brodie only got traded last off season. Personally I don't think Dews done anywhere near enough to justify another contract.Stubborness, insecurity, inexperience as a coach all in the mix.You do wonder if he'd make the same decisions now
Well seeing as it was pretty much history repeating itself with Lyons (he can't run, I can't use him), I think the chances of learning after a second instance aren't probably much more likely.Stubborness, insecurity, inexperience as a coach all in the mix.You do wonder if he'd make the same decisions now
Jaryd Lyons..Some players just don't work for some teams.
He was here for 5 seasons and wasn't a fit for the team.
This should be the final nail for Dew, he is responsible for this, his lack of vision and bloody mindedness and it’s not like it’s the first time
Jaryd Lyons..
Peter Wright..
will brodie
All would of been helpful if given the opportunity to play to there strengths
2MP can kick drop punts from 60 and we had no ruck last year
Lyons got top 2-3 in best and fairest in a finals team