Coaching

[dominguez]

So what does the uncompromising coach do for next week? Is it, as everyone is suggesting, drop M.Carr, plus a couple of others? Personally I fell that is a compromise. I don't know about other supporters, but there was a fair few performances today that (Even though some made up for these in other areas within the game) fell below a standard in skills that I think is required to be a really successful team at AFL level. They probably included:

Mathew Carr
Josh Carr
Chris Tarrant
Michael Johnson
Brett Peake
Byron Schammer
Daniel Gilmore
Mark Johnson
*Roger Hayden (Generally very good but he should NOT have gone of the line kicking out; inexcusable skill at this level)

McManus was probably borderline as well.

But now that is more than half the team. You can't drop them all can you? But for me uncompromising is about setting a standard. Those players fell below my standard and under an uncompromising system need to be sent back to the WAFL (or in Rogers case banished from kick-ins would probably suffice).

An uncompromising coach would highlight a players errors and make it clear that they need to improve or their place in the side is in jeopardy. If every coach dropped a player who made 2 errors in a game each club would be making 8 changes a week.

Connolly once said that he told Medhurst to play close to goal each week because when he was instructed to play up the ground he'd drift back to the goal square anyway so it was easier to structure up around Medders deep in attack. That's a coach that is letting the tail wag the dog!!!

 

[dominguez]

I reckon the coaching staff will have learnt a lot from this game:
1) youth and pace required
2) always take 2 ruckmen into a game
3) rest your key runners with rotations through the bench
4) McPharlin is still a better forward than Murph and Kiwi
5) we really miss Hase

Good post Nodgey. I reckon the match committee picked a side that they thought would be best suited to playing collingwood round one on the G.

Hopefully this week they'll pick a side better suited to Subi (I think Brisbane brought over just 7 players for last nights game who were 190cm or taller and the added running players almost got them over the line).

 

[Sman-21]

Instead of wasting time this week working on fitness and gameplan
Spend all week doing the basics getting the foot skills up to par.
If players dont know how to kick into the space a guy is leading to instead of making them stop an jump at a ball going overhead.
That is a basic skill error.
You kick to the space let them run onto it or low bullet pass that hits them in the guts or head height.
You dont kick it on top of there head.

I refuse to believe a guy can make it to afl with terrible foot skills an if they are real bad surely with enough practice they can make them good enough.
If a guy from ireland can be taught how to kick an oval shaped ball in a year surely an afl player can get his skills up to the level needed.

I can only kick a ball about 40m i have a hook foot ball swerves to left slightly.
I know what im capable of an all my teamates knew aswell.
Teamates knew my limit was about 45m
So they made leads within my limits.
I didnt go for anything above my capabilities an i knew i had to allow for the slight hook on my long kicks.

If our players mainly midfielders dont have the skills to hit targets etc what is the point in working on gameplans, without skills they have no hope of playing to a gameplan.
Flog them all week to basic training skills.
If our skills cant improve we need to change our gameplan to just get it forward as quick as possible.
A player should know who best options are to kick to an will take a load of pressure of them in trying to follow overcomplicated game plans.

 

[theGav56]

It seems very strange to me that two guys who supported a shit coach through thick and thin are turning on Harvey after one game. Everyone knew that Connolly was a loser at the end of 2005, by persevering with him for 2 years too long it made the job of the next coach much harder because it affected the culture of the club.

You criticise the draft selections Gav, but three of the young blokes selected last year are a very good chance to debut in their first year and look to have a big future. Compare that to Clown Connolly, who only retained our first pick in 2 of 6 drafts. How many players are left from the 2001-2006 drafts.

Happy for Connolly to go if there is a better coach available, especially an experienced senior coach. I think the learning curve a rookie coach has to go through, and the innevitable restrcturing that comes with a new coach is significant and under-estimated. If there is not a better coach available then don't change, and so far Harvey has not been a better coach.

But regardless, many posters, notably yourself, advocated a change of coach, and I am interested to hear the improvements that come from it. It is early days for Harvey, and I hope he does stunningly well.

I am fine with the draft selections from last year, but recruiting johnson is definitely conservative.

 

[theGav56]

Fair enough about the list, but obviously guys like David Mundy, Michael Johnson and Daniel Gilmore are still being groomed as midfielders, post Connolly, and Mark Johnson and Dean Solomon played have played there a bit as well.

I thought Gilmore is a midfielder (wing). Isn't that where he plays at WAFL?

 

[dominguez]

Happy for Connolly to go if there is a better coach available, especially an experienced senior coach. I think the learning curve a rookie coach has to go through, and the inevitable restrcturing that comes with a new coach is significant and under-estimated. If there is not a better coach available then don't change, and so far Harvey has not been a better coach.

But regardless, many posters, notably yourself, advocated a change of coach, and I am interested to hear the improvements that come from it. It is early days for Harvey, and I hope he does stunningly well.

I am fine with the draft selections from last year, but recruiting johnson is definitely conservative.

Saturday was disappointing and it was hard to see any improvement but it was only one game.

Connolly was a dud coach. Apart from a 9 game period the last four seasons could best be described as mediocre. The message clearly wasn't getting through and he had to go, regardless of who replaced him. Harvey certainly has some weaknesses, but a lot would have to go wrong for him to prove to be a worse coach than Connolly. Atleast Harvey has the repect of the players.

At present Mark Johnson >>>> Tarrant.

 

[Lach72]

Saturday was disappointing and it was hard to see any improvement but it was only one game.

Connolly was a dud coach. Apart from a 9 game period the last four seasons could best be described as mediocre. The message clearly wasn't getting through and he had to go, regardless of who replaced him. Harvey certainly has some weaknesses, but a lot would have to go wrong for him to prove to be a worse coach than Connolly. Atleast Harvey has the repect of the players.

At present Mark Johnson >>>> Tarrant.

That's a stretch...

 

[dominguez]

10 possessions and 1 goal v 6 possessions and no goals.