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BRISBANE’S hunt for a new training and administration base has come full circle, with the original Springfield proposal back on the table.

It is understood the success of the Lions’ AFLW side and their lack of a suitable home ground has captured the attention of the State Government.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...e/news-story/e5d505ed175892f70f936e16124d2ea1

Who would have thought that women's footy would push this , when the men's team couldn't get a sniff from the Government.
 
ABC 774 Radio Vic. SA. Tas. combined Public Holiday Program (13.3)with presenter Leon ?, & two others :-

The Sports Segment announced 2017 Tas. female AF club registrations are up 30%, cf.Tas. 2016 regns.

Commentators attributed this rise in females seeing AFLW players on TV for the first time -role models, & they wish to emulate them.
Made the further interesting comment that many new families are joining community AF -& that these girls'exposure to club AF might encourage their brothers (who never played AF before) to START playing also!

The AFL is putting a pittance into the AFLW (cf. its revenues) -& with sponsorship, possibly AFLW in 2017 is cost neutral. The "return"& strategic benefits for AF are likely to be massive over the next 10 years, as the AFLW expands to 18 teams (2 new teams every 2 years).
(I'm assuming other states will have similar growth rates for female AF, c.30%. BF "guru" Garlic Muncher provided nos. on increase in Brisbane jnr. female AF teams also c. 30%).
 
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Leilani Mitchell (Opals Aust. team basketballer & winner 2017 WNBL Finals, MVP) stated, on 19.3 in Courier Mail, many WNBL players would consider doubling-up, & playing in the AFLW in the future -if the two leagues were played at different times.

The Opals have done very well in the Olymics for c. 20 years -& are considered the no. 3 League in the world.

There have been suggestions the WNBL season might be finalised before the AFLW starts in early Feb. -which might assist it to be televised (Oddly, no TV coverage now).

Article is behind a paywall -google "We could play AFLW and WNBL- Mitchell".
Courier Mail 19.3
 
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The VAFA has just announced its female adult AF comp., the VAFAW, created in 2017 for the first time, has achieved over 1,000 female regd. players.
I believe 1000 regns. is the highest ever created in the FIRST year of any new AF (male or female) comp.

The VAFA (c.12,000 adult male players in suburban Melb.) is planning to greatly expand the VAFAW over the next few years -most member clubs are very enthusiastic to become involved.
The VAFA sees itself very much as a promoter/ trendsetter/leader for community AF (Most of the other managers of the 8 adult community AF comps in Melb. see themselves as mainly administrators of their comp. -& delegate to their member clubs the responsibility to increase their player nos.).

Interestingly, also, Erin Phillips, in her presentation speech for B & F after the AFLW GF, said to the crowd "Football is the best game in the world".
I suspect Phillips (Opals Olympics basketball & current US WNBA star for Dallas, much decorated) will have made supporters of other female sports quite uncomfortable by these comments to the 15,000 crowd, & broadcast around Australia. Other WNBL players have already publicly stated they would like to play in the AFLW if their seasons did not overlap.

www.vafa.com.au/latest-news/vafa-womens-hits-1000-registrations
 
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The_Wookie said:
Going to make pay negotiations interesting for the women in year 3.
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Yes that is true.
The AFL has already indicated it wants to talk to the TV networks next year about changing the financial arrangements with them for year 2. Looks like extracting some funds from them for the TV broadcasts perhaps.
 
BringBackTorps said:
The VAFA has just announced its female adult AF comp., the VAFAW, created in 2017 for the first time, has achieved over 1,000 female regd. players.
I believe 1000 regns. is the highest ever created in the FIRST year of any new AF (male or female) comp.

The VAFA (c.12,000 adult male players in suburban Melb.) is planning to greatly expand the VAFAW over the next few years -most member clubs are very enthusiastic to become involved.
The VAFA sees itself very much as a promoter/ trendsetter/leader for community AF (Most of the other 8 adult community AF comps in Melb. see themselves as mainly administrators of their comp. -& delegate to their member clubs the responsibility to increase their player nos.).

Interestingly, also, Erin Phillips, in her presentation speech for B & F after the AFLW GF, said to the crowd "Football is the best game in the world".
I suspect Phillips (Opals Olympics basketball & current US WNBA star for Dallas, much decorated) will have made supporters of other female sports quite uncomfortable by these comments to the 15,000 crowd, & broadcast around Australia. Other WNBL players have already publicly stated they would like to play in the AFLW if their seasons did not overlap.

www.vafa.com.au/latest-news/vafa-womens-hits-1000-registrations
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Incredible numbers really.
 
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport...h/news-story/d6001698c5bfcbb9b5370c6e8b92ac74

CAN the AFLW maintain the phenomenal success of the 2017 without offering free entry?

And for how long can free entry to games be continued?

To be afforded the opportunity to throw open the gates to games is something other sporting codes, both male and female, can only dream about.

We live in a world where they say nothing is free, but the powerful AFL turned this statement on its head.

The AFLW will not be able to ride the AFL’s coat-tails next year. The financial costs involved are too great for even the AFL to cop season after season.

The AFLW has also benefited from all of the AFL’s media relationships, with the coverage unparalleled and far surpassing other national and international sports including netball, basketball, tennis, soccer and so on.

Coming from a netball background, I found this coverage frustrating.

During the AFLW season, the new Suncorp Super Netball League started — the best netball competition in the world!

This league is home to 80 of the best netballers from all over the globe. The standard is elite. However the coverage of this competition could not compete with the AFLW, where footballers, most unknown, were getting more exposure and spotlight than the world’s best netballers.

Don’t get me wrong, I think it is great that women athletes are getting coverage, no matter what sport, and I am all for diversity, but I think it should be earnt and at times some of the skills on show in AFLW were certainly not ”world’s best
 
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The domestic WNBL’s lack of exposure, failing to get a broadcast deal while the AFLW found an audience through television coverage, could be another issue for basketball.

But Stirling said basketball holds a trump card over the AFL.

“Players who want to go to an Olympic Games or a world championships or play in another country and experience that, the AFL’s not going to have that for them,” she said.
 
A bit of news from the WAWFL (WA Women's Football League);

A new-look Mundella WA Women’s Football League season is set to kick off a huge 30th year in 2017 with nine clubs represented for the first time at League level and more attention than ever on the competition that produced 36 players for the inaugural AFL Women’s season.

For the first time, Perth Angels, East Perth and last year’s Reserves premiers West Perth, will field League teams, seeing a WAWFL League side now aligned to every WAFL men’s team.

For West Perth, this includes the complete integration of the Joondalup Women’s Football Club with West Perth Football Club.

Joondalup Women’s Football Club President Dave Burton said the club had enjoyed a strong relationship with West Perth Football Club for many years.

"It’s great to see it progress to this point and provide an invaluable opportunity for all females within our District and give them a clear pathway through to the AFL if that’s where they dream to go," Burton said.

Claremont, formerly known as the Piranhas, will be replacing their much-loved piranha logo and adopting the emblem of the tiger and the same jumper design as Claremont Football Club.

With Swan Districts having over 10 years of alignment with their WAFL Club, East Fremantle, East Perth, Peel Thunderbirds, Perth Angels, and South Fremantle will continue to build and strengthen their relationships with WAFL clubs, while Coastal Titans are also strengthening their ties to Subiaco.

In another first for the WAWFL competition, West Australian dairy producer Mundella Foods was recently announced as the new major partner of female football in Western Australia.

The partnership includes naming rights to the Mundella WA Women’s Football League and a range of initiatives linked to the West Australian Football Commission’s (WAFC) Female Talent Pathway, Female Ambassador Program, WA Women’s Round and female participation programs.

Last year, there was a 61.3% increase in the number of females playing club football in WA and the total number of club-based teams almost doubled from 84 to 157.

WAWFL President Carolyn Hills said it was certainly shaping up to be a huge year for the WAWFL when games get under way on April 2.

“We launch our 2017 season off the back of the AFL Women’s competition inaugural season, and with a new naming rights major sponsor, Mundella Foods, who will help us continue to grow and develop the league," she said.

“The excitement around the AFL Women’s competition is evidenced by the significant numbers of girls turning up at Club training sessions, and confirmed as three clubs take a momentous step forward entering League teams into the competition.

“We are really looking forward to the start of what promises to be a thrilling and celebratory 30th year of women’s football in WA."

To ensure an even and competitive season for all nine teams fixtures have been formulated with teams grouped into a top, middle and bottom three. Teams will play more games against those in the same group than teams in the other groupings.

This will inlcude the three teams that are new to the League division only playing a top team once each throughout the season.

- A couple of girls from my work have now started playing with the Perth Angels and say that there's such a tremendous buzz around the club with a lot of new girls joining as well.
 
Re Wookie post above, 334 & 335.

AFLW players ARE the best female AF players in the world!

In 2018, I think the public would be happy to pay $3 entry for adults, $1 entry for males U 18 -but all females under 18 free. Announce all moneys raised would go 50% to AFLW players, 50% to a fund for more female facilities in community AF clubs (eg More female only toilets. Females are happy to use male change rooms, they go already dressed in their footy gear- but hate the male toilets).
Collingwood will use Vic. Park in 2018 -it will easily get AFLW crowds of 10 -15,000. Melb. FC could also get much bigger crowds playing at Waverly, or an eastern old VFA ground. Brisbane should also flick their ground in the far outer suburbs, to drag in the crowds (Brisbane AFLW got 15,000 on the GOLD COAST!).
To maximise crowds & TV ratings, play all games in 6 pm -7.30 pm ie best time in our hot & humid summer ( & when JLT starts, play AFLW Sunday -Wed. evenings).

It was my understanding that, with the significant sponsorship the AFLW received, it was probably cost neutral for the AFL. It is almost certain this sponsorship will increase, with the good crowds & ratings the AFLW obtained in 2017 (which are also likely to rise in future years). The AFL should tell the broadcasters to pay appropriately for the AFLW media rights in 2018 (C. Wilson, The Age, said the high rating AFLW early games, in prime time clean air, would be worth c. $1,000,000 EACH game for advertisers).

Since when do AF supporters care what international sports are doing? We are primarily concerned with our Australian game.
"Basketball, nor any other international sports, DON'T hold any trump card over the AFL". Cultural cringe garbage.

After O'Neil quit the ARU with a c. $2,000,000 pay out & Multi-millions in salary, the ARU has had to take over the Rebels, pump c. $10,000,000+ into it -but Super Rugby is imploding in Aust, RU here disintegrating.

Netball international? Aust. & NZ completely dominate the small no. of countries who play it.

Other female sports are starting "whispering"campaigns, I can assure you -telling the girls & parents privately "You will get hurt playing football; & do you want your daughter to be part of the football culture". Shock horror!

RU, RL, & soccer have tried to undermine/resist/denigrate/attack AF for 150 years, & still are.
NRL is deliberately scheduling RL games against GC & Brisbane, to lower their media coverage, crowds & ratings. In 19th century, AF was denied enclosed grounds (so couldn't charge entry), it was banned in Syd. schools (the masons were very effective).

St Augustines in Manly, Syd. will not permit AF to be introduced into its RU school. Nor will St Josephs Hunters Hill, Syd., for years 7-10 -to quarantine RU; they allow only their year 11-12 to play AF. Both these schools, & others also, are in middle class areas where many of their students would like to play AF. Jnr. AF is very strong in Syd. middle class inner, nthn. beaches, & Eastern suburbs.

Some semi-prof. Aust. sportswomen have said they are strongly considering playing in the AFLW -but their sports are putting up barriers against them; & just very recently, significantly raising their remuneration for the first time -almost certainly to "thwart"the AFLW.

I think the AFL should start a major advertising campaign prior to the Draft combines in the next week in the nthn. states inviting athletic females to attend -& to play in the nthn. winter AF comps. The VFL/AFL, & other state leagues, did NOTHING for female AF from 1919 -2012 -& should cough-up big advertising $ now. These women are mothers of the future -we want them encouraging their male & female children to play AF.

PS. I am now hearing incredible, anecdotal accounts of female AF interest around Melb. There could be an 80%+ increase in regd. female nos. (inc. school, Auskick, comp.) in 2017 in Melb. -massive boost for the Australian game.

Edit: John O'Neil, ARU CEO, when he introduced the RU Super Rebels start-up c.2010,said arrogantly "Dare I say it, Super Rugby is offering Melb. the chance to see international sport, almost on a fortnightly basis". Cultural cringe garbage.
 
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BringBackTorps said:
Re Wookie post above, 334 & 335.

AFLW players ARE the best female AF players in the world!

In 2018, I think the public would be happy to pay $3 entry for adults, $1 entry for males U 18 -but all females under 18 free. Announce all moneys raised would go 50% to AFLW players, 50% to a fund for more female facilities in community AF clubs (eg More female only toilets. Females are happy to use male change rooms, they go already dressed in their footy gear- but hate the male toilets).
Collingwood will use Vic. Park in 2018 -it will easily get AFLW crowds of 10 -15,000. Melb. FC could also get much bigger crowds playing at Waverly, or an eastern old VFA ground. Brisbane should also flick their ground in the far outer suburbs, to drag in the crowds (Brisbane AFLW got 15,000 on the GOLD COAST!).
To maximise crowds & TV ratings, play all games in 6 pm -7.30 pm best in our hot & humid summer ( & when JLT starts, play AFLW Sunday -Wed. evenings).

It was my understanding that, with the significant sponsorship the AFLW received, it was probably cost neutral for the AFL. It is almost certain this sponsorship will increase, with the good crowds & ratings the AFLW obtained in 2017 (which are also likely to rise in future years). The AFL should tell the broadcasters to pay appropriately for the AFLW media rights in 2018 (C. Wilson, The Age, said the high rating AFLW early games, in prime time clean air, would be worth c. $1,000,000 EACH game for advertisers).

Since when do AF supporters care what international sports are doing? We are primarily concerned with our Australian game.
"Basketball, nor any other , international sports, DON'T hold any trump card over the AFL". Cultural cringe garbage.
After he quit the ARU with a c. $2,000,000 pay out & Multi-millions in salary, the ARU has had to take over the Rebels, pump c. $10,000,000+ into it -but Super Rugby is imploding in Aust, RU here disintegrating.

Netball international? Aust. & NZ completely dominate the small no. of countries who play it.

Other female sports are starting "whispering"campaigns, I can assure you -telling the girls & parents privately "You will get hurt playing football; & do you want your daughter to be part of the football culture". Shock horror!

RU, RL, & soccer have tried to undermine/resist/denigrate/attack AF for 150 years, & still are.
NRL is deliberately scheduling RL games against GC & Brisbane, to lower their media coverage, crowds & ratings. In 19th century, denied AF enclosed grounds, banned it in schools (the masons were very effective).
St Augustines in Manly, Syd. will not permit AF to be introduced into its RU school. Nor will St Josephs Hunters Hill, Syd., for years 7-10 -to quarantine RU; they allow only their year 11-12 to play AF. Both these schools, & others also, are in middle class areas where many of their students would like to play AF. Jnr. AF is very strong in Syd. middle class inner, nthn. beaches, & Eastern suburbs.

Some semi-prof. Aust. sportswomen have said they are strongly considering playing in the AFLW -but their sports are putting up barriers against them; & just very recently, significantly raising their remuneration for the first time -almost certainly to "thwart"the AFLW.

I think the AFL should start a major advertising campaign prior to the Draft combines in the next week in the nthn. states inviting athletic females to attend -& to play in the nthn. winter AF comps. The VFL/AFL, & other state leagues, did NOTHING for female AF from 1919 -2012 -should cough-up big advertising $ now. These women are mothers of the future -we want them encouraging their male & female children to play AF.

PS. I am now hearing incredible, anecdotal accounts of female AF interest around Melb. There could be an 80%+ increase in regd. female nos. (inc. school, Auskick, comp.) in 2017 in Melb. -massive boost for the Australian game.
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Would not surprise in the slightest that we see fair few Gaelic converts, as Gaelic women's football is quite big and established and also Americans and Canadians who also have a standard of football ( AF) that is far easier to transverse than for the men.
 
BringBackTorps said:
Re Wookie post above, 334 & 335.

AFLW players ARE the best female AF players in the world!

In 2018, I think the public would be happy to pay $3 entry for adults, $1 entry for males U 18 -but all females under 18 free. Announce all moneys raised would go 50% to AFLW players, 50% to a fund for more female facilities in community AF clubs (eg More female only toilets. Females are happy to use male change rooms, they go already dressed in their footy gear- but hate the male toilets).
Collingwood will use Vic. Park in 2018 -it will easily get AFLW crowds of 10 -15,000. Melb. FC could also get much bigger crowds playing at Waverly, or an eastern old VFA ground. Brisbane should also flick their ground in the far outer suburbs, to drag in the crowds (Brisbane AFLW got 15,000 on the GOLD COAST!).
To maximise crowds & TV ratings, play all games in 6 pm -7.30 pm best in our hot & humid summer ( & when JLT starts, play AFLW Sunday -Wed. evenings).

It was my understanding that, with the significant sponsorship the AFLW received, it was probably cost neutral for the AFL. It is almost certain this sponsorship will increase, with the good crowds & ratings the AFLW obtained in 2017 (which are also likely to rise in future years). The AFL should tell the broadcasters to pay appropriately for the AFLW media rights in 2018 (C. Wilson, The Age, said the high rating AFLW early games, in prime time clean air, would be worth c. $1,000,000 EACH game for advertisers).

Since when do AF supporters care what international sports are doing? We are primarily concerned with our Australian game.
"Basketball, nor any other , international sports, DON'T hold any trump card over the AFL". Cultural cringe garbage.
After he quit the ARU with a c. $2,000,000 pay out & Multi-millions in salary, the ARU has had to take over the Rebels, pump c. $10,000,000+ into it -but Super Rugby is imploding in Aust, RU here disintegrating.

Netball international? Aust. & NZ completely dominate the small no. of countries who play it.

Other female sports are starting "whispering"campaigns, I can assure you -telling the girls & parents privately "You will get hurt playing football; & do you want your daughter to be part of the football culture". Shock horror!

RU, RL, & soccer have tried to undermine/resist/denigrate/attack AF for 150 years, & still are.
NRL is deliberately scheduling RL games against GC & Brisbane, to lower their media coverage, crowds & ratings. In 19th century, denied AF enclosed grounds, banned it in schools (the masons were very effective).
St Augustines in Manly, Syd. will not permit AF to be introduced into its RU school. Nor will St Josephs Hunters Hill, Syd., for years 7-10 -to quarantine RU; they allow only their year 11-12 to play AF. Both these schools, & others also, are in middle class areas where many of their students would like to play AF. Jnr. AF is very strong in Syd. middle class inner, nthn. beaches, & Eastern suburbs.

Some semi-prof. Aust. sportswomen have said they are strongly considering playing in the AFLW -but their sports are putting up barriers against them; & just very recently, significantly raising their remuneration for the first time -almost certainly to "thwart"the AFLW.

I think the AFL should start a major advertising campaign prior to the Draft combines in the next week in the nthn. states inviting athletic females to attend -& to play in the nthn. winter AF comps. The VFL/AFL, & other state leagues, did NOTHING for female AF from 1919 -2012 -should cough-up big advertising $ now. These women are mothers of the future -we want them encouraging their male & female children to play AF.

PS. I am now hearing incredible, anecdotal accounts of female AF interest around Melb. There could be an 80%+ increase in regd. female nos. (inc. school, Auskick, comp.) in 2017 in Melb. -massive boost for the Australian game.
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It has always surprised me that Catholic schools would resist an indigenous game in preference to a English one, probably sounds ridiculous to portray RU as simply an English game in this day and age, but like cricket it probably epitomised ' Englishness'.

Catholic priests whether they were Irish or of Irish heritage were in the vast majority in Australia until the last 20 years, obviously at some stage they got a real case of cultural cringe to chop out AF in Sydney and surrounds, perhaps it was a case of attempting to integrate Catholic boys into the upper echelons of Sydney society that made them do it, looking down on AF as a lower class sport or a sport that upper society in Sydney would not tolerate.

But for whatever reasons they were at odds with the GAA and general Irish sentiment who despised English games like RU and Cricket, considering the vast majority of their flock in Australia around those times and to post WW2 were either Irish or Australians of Irish decent it seems an odd path to take.
 
The_Wookie said:
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport...h/news-story/d6001698c5bfcbb9b5370c6e8b92ac74

CAN the AFLW maintain the phenomenal success of the 2017 without offering free entry?

And for how long can free entry to games be continued?

To be afforded the opportunity to throw open the gates to games is something other sporting codes, both male and female, can only dream about.

We live in a world where they say nothing is free, but the powerful AFL turned this statement on its head.

The AFLW will not be able to ride the AFL’s coat-tails next year. The financial costs involved are too great for even the AFL to cop season after season.

The AFLW has also benefited from all of the AFL’s media relationships, with the coverage unparalleled and far surpassing other national and international sports including netball, basketball, tennis, soccer and so on.

Coming from a netball background, I found this coverage frustrating.

During the AFLW season, the new Suncorp Super Netball League started — the best netball competition in the world!

This league is home to 80 of the best netballers from all over the globe. The standard is elite. However the coverage of this competition could not compete with the AFLW, where footballers, most unknown, were getting more exposure and spotlight than the world’s best netballers.

Don’t get me wrong, I think it is great that women athletes are getting coverage, no matter what sport, and I am all for diversity, but I think it should be earnt and at times some of the skills on show in AFLW were certainly not ”world’s best
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That's a really odd argument for a female sportswomen to make. The AFLW is not of the highest standard, only if compared to mens football.

Is she happy for this argument to be made across the sports. This is the standard argument of people who do not think women's sport deserves attention.

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BringBackTorps said:
Re Wookie post above, 334 & 335.



Since when do AF supporters care what international sports are doing? We are primarily concerned with our Australian game.
"Basketball, nor any other , international sports, DON'T hold any trump card over the AFL". Cultural cringe garbage.
After he quit the ARU with a c. $2,000,000 pay out & Multi-millions in salary, the ARU has had to take over the Rebels, pump c. $10,000,000+ into it -but Super Rugby is imploding in Aust, RU here disintegrating.

Netball international? Aust. & NZ completely dominate the small no. of countries who play it.

Other female sports are starting "whispering"campaigns, I can assure you -telling the girls & parents privately "You will get hurt playing football; & do you want your daughter to be part of the football culture". Shock horror!

RU, RL, & soccer have tried to undermine/resist/denigrate/attack AF for 150 years, & still are.
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couple things.one, it is NOT cultural cringe if you want to represent your country, especially at the Olympics. And it will be a much bigger factor for women athletes than the men. the reason is money. A gold medal is worth the same for man or women. That includes scholarships paid by the AOC(i am assuming). AFL players get paid a lot and it is a great career. Their women counterparts still have a long way to go, especially if they plan to expand the league at the rapid pace they are saying.

also,dont paint the AFL as an innocent party. it does as much undermining as any other sport.
 
jatz14 said:
That's a really odd argument for a female sportswomen to make. The AFLW is not of the highest standard, only if compared to mens football.

Is she happy for this argument to be made across the sports. This is the standard argument of people who do not think women's sport deserves attention.

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standard is very important. you always going to get people who just dont watch womens sport. they arent important and are best ignored

but you still need to be "amazed", for the lack of a better word. you need to think that these girls are highly trained athletes. they are special. the depth is not there yet for AFLW, especially compared to netball. hopefully there is an all-star gamer this year cause that will showcase the potential of AFLW in a few years time.
 
BobbyMorri said:
couple things.one, it is NOT cultural cringe if you want to represent your country, especially at the Olympics. And it will be a much bigger factor for women athletes than the men. the reason is money. A gold medal is worth the same for man or women. That includes scholarships paid by the AOC(i am assuming). AFL players get paid a lot and it is a great career. Their women counterparts still have a long way to go, especially if they plan to expand the league at the rapid pace they are saying.
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hes not talking about people wanting to represent their country, he's talking about people using it as a bat to beat AFLW. We've seen soccer folks do it, and now the netball folks. The AFL doesnt particularly care about international representation. People should be used to that by now.
 
The_Wookie said:
hes not talking about people wanting to represent their country, he's talking about people using it as a bat to beat AFLW. We've seen soccer folks do it, and now the netball folks. The AFL doesnt particularly care about international representation. People should be used to that by now.
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And in any case, the fact that the AFLW can offer what is going to be next year 240 professional list spots. Super Netball is offering 80. Some athletes might be driven by the fact that they can represent their country, others are going to be driven by the realism of the greater opportunities in the AFLW.
 
BobbyMorri said:
Hunt, Folou.
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Hunt and Folau chased money. The league didnt undermine anyone - they'd been approached by other player managers before that. These are professional sports people who made their own decisions.

C7 and the NSL. (an indirect party)
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7 said they were doing the AFL a favour - the AFL didnt ask them to do it, Seven did it of their own volition to get favour from the league who didnt care.
 
threenewpadlocks said:
And in any case, the fact that the AFLW can offer what is going to be next year 240 professional list spots. Super Netball is offering 80. Some athletes might be driven by the fact that they can represent their country, others are going to be driven by the realism of the greater opportunities in the AFLW.
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Also, of the inaugural season, the women were attracted by:
- the game itself
- being part of a professional environment.

Both will continue to attract elite athletes to AFL Women's.
 
The_Wookie said:
Hunt and Folau chased money. The league didnt undermine anyone - they'd been approached by other player managers before that. These are professional sports people who made their own decisions.
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And why did they target those athletes. it was all cheap publicity. If the NRL stole 2 great players from AFL, then that wouldnt undermine those teams and hence that code.

7 said they were doing the AFL a favour - the AFL didnt ask them to do it, Seven did it of their own volition to get favour from the league who didnt care.
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smoke, fire. C7 must have got that idea from something.

it seems similar to those rugby schools which count as undermining Aussie Rules. i dont think that is an NRL/RU narrative.

anyway, if you want to paint the AFL(the biggest football code in this country) as a plucky underdog which never plays dirty, then so be it. they are a business like every other code. they protect their self interest and have obligations to shareholders(the clubs)
 
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