Cold Hard Truth

[sumavich]

Many times I have though to myself that 'whatever happens to the Fremantle Football Club' should be the definition of Murphy's law in the dictionary

The fact is that Freo has the 5th highest spending total in the AFL for coaches and recruitment. We also have one of the oldest playing groups as an average in the AFL (around 25 years). Now to be 2 wins, 4 losses is just not good enough when you consider these statistics.
The Kangas for chrissake get $9 million annually from the AFL just to compete.
Basically, we are one of the best resourced clubs in the comp, but our results on the field are no way good enough.

Either turf some older players : Parker, M Carr, Walker or get rid of the coach. One or the other. We also need some youth in the midfield !!

 

[sumavich]

I'm being dead set honest here

Can ayone tell me if it's possible for supporters to win a premiership from sheer persistence because our team sure wont

Perhaps thats something for the AFL to consider, some kind of award for supporters who have more passion and patience then their team

Mate. Talk to Richmond supporters!!

 

[Freo Hitman]

Peter Bell: You look to be going at 50% in a bid to last the whole season. Better 11 games at 100% than what your delivering at the moment.

Heath Black: One of the few players who looked to be giving their all. Just need to get your kicking on target. Be careful about giving away stupid free's.

Andrew Browne: Unlucky with the hamstrings, but unfortunately i don't think you make our best 22 any better. Though your desperation is unquestionable.

Adam Campbell: If it wasn't for Tarrant you would have a spot every week. Unfortunately your development came 12 months too late. 8 goals in the WAFL should see you take your spot next week...hopefully.

Josh Carr: Desperation is great, i don't think your that great a tagger. If you could improve your kicking we would be a better team.

Matthew Carr: If your going to jog around the field at the same pace people power walk there's no point being on the field. How bout striding out and making it to more contests. Also your kicking is the worst its ever been, which is a worry since your a senior player.

Clayton Collard: looking forward to your debut, which may be a little premature with Farmer losing the plot. Hopefully if you play seniors early you don't get injured. Which can often be the fate of youngsters blooded too early.

Troy Cook: Good tackle, poor disposal. If our players were more committed to winning i doubt you would have a spot.

Ryan Crowley: Improve your kicking.

Steven Dodd: Improve your kicking.

Marcus Drum: Where are you? Your form last year was good.

Paul Duffield: Improve your disposal and you will become one of the best players in the team. Aerobic capacity and commitment are always there.

Ryley Dunn: Too injury prone.

Jeff Farmer: What a difference it would of made if you were around the first 6 weeks. Very selfish acts the last few weeks.

Daniel Gilmore: Hard to say where you fit in. Not very fair being played as the 2nd ruck. Perhaps a wing. God knows you would chase until your blue in the face. But is that enough?

Antoni Grover: Your not our FB, your too small. You played OK today but Brown still did well. Lose some weight, get back to your sprinting and stop being beaten on the lead.

Robert Haddrill: Hope you make it back from injury, its been a long time since you played FB for us. Not sure who you can displace from our backline.

Paul Hasleby: Lose weight and become more of an athlete, its not rocket science. People change their body habitus every day. It just takes commitment. That doesn't mean going half-paced on a bicycle for 30 minutes. Your an excellent footballer now its time you got to more contests.

Roger Hayden: Your back in top form. Pity about those around you. Even so, i don't think your going to become a midfielder. Stick to being the best back pocket in the league.

Des Headland: You spend too long spectating. You need to run harder because we all know you can. I want to see more runs from forward to defence and back again.

Garrick Ibbotson: Hows that development going. Good height, pace and kick. Keep pushing hard your time may come.

Michael Johnson: Cool, calm and collected in the backline. Man on man you need to improve.

Justin Longmuir: Good work getting a four year contract when your knee's were stuffed. Its not your fault doing that but we need more from a 400k player. I hope this time off fixes your knee.

Shaun McManus: What a legend, your kicking has improved exponentially.

Luke McPharlin: Your our FB. Accept it. There are rumours you still want to be a forward. Does today confirm what we've known all along. Your better in the backline. Also lets see the same urgency inside our defensive 50 and on the wing.

David Mundy: Great when you don't have an opponent or an average opponent. Work on your one on one contests.

Ryan Murphy: So good last year, where are you know? don't be a 1 year wonder.

Shane Parker: Getting close to hanging up the boots. Turnovers from your most experienced players are not acceptable.

Matthew Pavlich: Superstar.

Brett Peake: Not the best start to the season when we really needed you firing. Unfortunately injured. Get back soon. Also kicking could improve.

Aaron Sandilands: Lets get more taps to advantage.

Byron Schammer: Unlucky with injuries, i heard you had a massive preseason.

Dean Solomon: Sometimes there's more to games than just throwing your body around. But you have been good so far.

Chris Tarrant: Excellent leading, don't drop your head at the end of games it'll take the attention away from the poor performance in the midfield.

Scott Thornton: Who? you've been gone so long.

Robert Warnock: Great debut, contested mark on the wing was top notch. Awesome goal also.

Luke Webster: Amazing kick. Good tough footballer. Need a bit better aerobic capacity and pace. Though after 3 knee recons i'm willing to wait.

Pretty good but werent harsh on some. Schammer is the biggest show pony we have & I am sure we wouldve lost V adelaide with him in the team. Parker shouldve been retired . Some other kids like Gilmore arent given the chances to get comfy in the team caus there not in the purple circle. Jlo's circumstamces are the good work of his management and the dumbness of Steve Icke who has moved on. Brett Peake is a bigger pisshead than some eagles are druggies , have a good look at yourself son. Man I could go on...........

 

[ImperialPurple]

Pretty good but werent harsh on some. Schammer is the biggest show pony we have & I am sure we wouldve lost V adelaide with him in the team. Parker shouldve been retired . Some other kids like Gilmore arent given the chances to get comfy in the team caus there not in the purple circle. Jlo's circumstamces are the good work of his management and the dumbness of Steve Icke who has moved on. Brett Peake is a bigger pisshead than some eagles are druggies , have a good look at yourself son. Man I could go on...........

Some of Schammer's very best games have been against Adelaide. Seems to lift a notch when playing against the team he barracked for pre-drafting.

 

[rgauci]

To be honest it was just post game and i was probably a little harsh on everyone.

 

[Freo Hitman]

To be honest it was just post game and i was probably a little harsh on everyone.

No - someone should start a thread and go through the players in the squad and list there strong points and there weak points.

I'll start at the top with Pavlich - Our gun is our best player - But doesnt lay enough tackles

 

[longsuffreosupp]

No - someone should start a thread and go through the players in the squad and list there strong points and there weak points.

I'll start at the top with Pavlich - Our gun is our best player - But doesnt lay enough tackles

and at times goes a bit half hearted when marks are out in front.

 

[weevil]

No - someone should start a thread and go through the players in the squad and list there strong points and there weak points.

I don’t think it’s is your players as individuals that is the problem. When is your team finally and definitively say that enough is enough!!!

Player for player you should have belted us today.

 

[FORCROWINGOUTLOUD]

No - someone should start a thread and go through the players in the squad and list there strong points and there weak points.

I'll start at the top with Pavlich - Our gun is our best player - But doesnt lay enough tackles

He aint no gun if there isn't anyone to load the bullets

 

[Dr Ralph Dagg]

How different would things have been if not for:

(i) Jeffrey had've kept his annoyance in check and kept his bloody fingers to himself.

(ii) They hadn't contested the charge, and had taken the 4 weeks.

(iii) He had've stayed away from the Paramount.

If only, if only, if only....

Got to be one of the posts of the season. Well done IP.

 

[Dr Ralph Dagg]

Mind you, he played an excellent game against Melbourne away from home two weeks ago.

Have a look at the quality of the Melbourne midfield that game.

My concern isn't really Hase. Its running Hase with all the other slowish midfielders. Both Hase and Josh are excellent players but where we need a P Burgoyne or Danyl Pearce or a Kerr to compliment them we have Peter Bell if you get my drift.

 

[Lach72]

Have a look at the quality of the Melbourne midfield that game.

My concern isn't really Hase. Its running Hase with all the other slowish midfielders. Both Hase and Josh are excellent players but where we need a P Burgoyne or Danyl Pearce or a Kerr to compliment them we have Peter Bell if you get my drift.

Do we then accaept that someone like Ibbotson needs to be fast-tracked now? At the moment we are getting smashed in the center due to slowness...our fat arsed short people, to paraphrase Mark Duffield, are not going to get any quicker.
I would rather we had a new face who can gain experience if we are going to get smashed.
Other clubs have proved that you can get games into players early in their careers and not lose much.

 

[malpaso]

Have a look at the quality of the Melbourne midfield that game.

My concern isn't really Hase. Its running Hase with all the other slowish midfielders. Both Hase and Josh are excellent players but where we need a P Burgoyne or Danyl Pearce or a Kerr to compliment them we have Peter Bell if you get my drift.

This is where Walker and Headland should be. Possibly Black as well, flying past players like Haselby, Carr and Bell and receiving handballs.

The thing is they are either too lazy or the setups are wrong.

I'm amazed at the amount of opposition flying down the field receiving handballs against us. EVERY other team wants to receive the ball, our players in the midfield do not on a consistent basis.

 

[dominguez]

Do we then accaept that someone like Ibbotson needs to be fast-tracked now? At the moment we are getting smashed in the center due to slowness...our fat arsed short people, to paraphrase Mark Duffield, are not going to get any quicker.
I would rather we had a new face who can gain experience if we are going to get smashed.
Other clubs have proved that you can get games into players early in their careers and not lose much.

How many games would Ibbo have to play before he becomes a good clearance player though? 30? 50?

The likes of Marc Murphy and Deledio didn't have a huge impact early on, and they are the cream of the crop.

Any improvement to our clearances this year will have to come from those who played against Brisbane + Peake, Browne and Schammer.