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[Funkalicous]

Like? And don't tell me biodegradable bags..

Well if our marine life is so damn keen to eat these bags maybe we can produce them with 30% more plankton..... seriously though. Give the innovators a chance. I'm sure it took a while before aeroplanes stopped falling out of the sky....

 

[Bradesmaen]

Well if our marine life is so damn keen to eat these bags maybe we can produce them with 30% more plankton..... seriously though. Give the innovators a chance. I'm sure it took a while before aeroplanes stopped falling out of the sky....

They have been, plastic is plastic, it is not biodegradable.

 

[JackOutback]

Yeah, the choice is rather binary in this case.

 

[Tiger08]

Like? And don't tell me biodegradable bags..

Paper bags like Wholefoods in the US? Not that hard is it.

How about we focus on how you need a chainsaw to get through hard plastic packaging for everything you actually buy, not the bag you take it home in.

 

[Tiger08]

Charge .50c per bag
10c is too cheap

I have been using green bags for about 6 years.... (and no, I don’t live in Adelaide). It’s not that hard.

Have you got a dog or kids in nappies? Use plastic bags for those? How about your bin and waste paper basket?

 

[Messenger]

Charge .50c per bag
10c is too cheap

I have been using green bags for about 6 years.... (and no, I don’t live in Adelaide). It’s not that hard.

Bollocks to that. Reinforce the behaviour you want.

Charge $2 for the plastic bags and sell the canvas bags for $1. People will respond to that signal.

The idea that Coles has changed direction because some feckless idiots can’t organise some canvas bags for a trip to the supermarket is silly.

 

[Bradesmaen]

Paper bags like Wholefoods in the US? Not that hard is it.

How about we focus on how you need a chainsaw to get through hard plastic packaging for everything you actually buy, not the bag you take it home in.

Er... paper bags are useless. They fall apart so easily. If you've ever been to Primark in the UK you know this one quite well.

 

[Tiger08]

Er... paper bags are useless. They fall apart so easily. If you've ever been to Primark in the UK you know this one quite well.

Nonsense.. i used to shop all Wholefoods all the time. They were fine.

 

[Tiger08]

This thread reminds me of this..

 

[Bradesmaen]

Nonsense.. i used to shop all Wholefoods all the time. They were fine.

Paper tears quite easily in comparison to all the other available options. That's why plastic bags came out..

 

[Maggie5]

Charge .50c per bag
10c is too cheap

I have been using green bags for about 6 years.... (and no, I don’t live in Adelaide). It’s not that hard.

Me too and if purchase more than the bags I bring in, just buy another one. Think I have about 12 now.

 

[Tiger08]

Paper tears quite easily in comparison to all the other available options. That's why plastic bags came out..

Wholefoods bags were far superior than the old thin plastic coles bags which could barely carry 4 litres of milk without ripping. Unsurprisingly we can make paper bags better now than 30-40 years ago when plastic bags started.

 

[Bradesmaen]

Wholefoods bags were far superior than the old thin plastic coles bags which could barely carry 4 litres of milk without ripping. Unsurprisingly we can make paper bags better now than 30-40 years ago when plastic bags started.

and what happens when you get a bit of water on them? Just get a canvas bag.

 

[Tiger08]

and what happens when you get a bit of water on them? Just get a canvas bag.

What do you use for your rubbish bin? Your dog's shit or nappies if you have little kids?

 

[Bradesmaen]

What do you use for your rubbish bin? Your dog's shit or nappies if you have little kids?

Don't have either of the last two, but I don't use plastic in my rubbish bin.

 

[Tiger08]

Don't have either of the last two, but I don't use plastic in my rubbish bin.

What do you use then? Curious what's the alternative.

 

[Bradesmaen]

What do you use then? Curious what's the alternative.

I live in an apartment block and have to go empty the bin into a bigger bin. I just used the bin as it is then wash it everytime I empty it. Doesn't take long and is better.

 

[rodney86]

Can someone explain how South Australia manages to survive without plastic bags, yet it's apparently too had for the rest of the country to deal with

 

[Tiger08]

I live in an apartment block and have to go empty the bin into a bigger bin. I just used the bin as it is then wash it everytime I empty it. Doesn't take long and is better.

Fair enough. I admire your intentions, but you should keep in mind that if you live in an apartment block without kids/dogs etc then the bag ban probably has less impact on you than some others.

For lots of people, those free bags were used for a lot of other purposes (bins/nappies/dog poo/wet clothes after swimming lessons/dirty clothes at childcare/art work from school/lunches/bathroom bins etc). They all had to get replaced with something else.. often buying other plastic bags! Which makes the whole thing seem like a complete waste of time.

Its a bit different to the impact if you just do one weekly shop walking around the corner to your local grocery store/market.

Of course you won't effect the environment.. you probably don't even need a car!!

You might use 3 bags.. we use 15 and sometimes more. And we'd reuse every one of them. Normally more than once.

 

[Tiger08]

Can someone explain how South Australia manages to survive without plastic bags, yet it's apparently too had for the rest of the country to deal with

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ad...y/news-story/91fc4ddfcdaae63d1c3e0f8fa0b3eb58

The ban is a crock.. that's why. The supermarkets just charged for them in the end.

This utopia where people show up on mass with reusable bags doesn't happen. Kudos to people who manage it though.

 

[Bradesmaen]

Fair enough. I admire your intentions, but you should keep in mind that if you live in an apartment block without kids/dogs etc then the bag ban probably has less impact on you than some others.

For lots of people, those free bags were used for a lot of other purposes (bins/nappies/dog poo/wet clothes after swimming lessons/dirty clothes at childcare/art work from school/lunches/bathroom bins etc). They all had to get replaced with something else.. often buying other plastic bags! Which makes the whole thing seem like a complete waste of time.

Its a bit different to the impact if you just do one weekly shop walking around the corner to your local grocery store/market.

Of course you won't effect the environment.. you probably don't even need a car!!

You might use 3 bags.. we use 15 and sometimes more. And we'd reuse every one of them. Normally more than once.

Welcome to changing life.

 

[Tiger08]

Welcome to changing life.

Haha.. pretty easy from an apartment block. I lived in one for a long time. Dryers are a shocking waste of power by the way. Hope you only air-dry.. you know.. for the environment.

 

[Bradesmaen]

Haha.. pretty easy from an apartment block. I lived in one for a long time. Dryers are a shocking waste of power by the way. Hope you only air-dry.. you know.. for the environment.

Do not have one here, always airdry even in winter... unfortunately winter being 0 half the time doesn't help.

 

[JackOutback]

Fair enough. I admire your intentions, but you should keep in mind that if you live in an apartment block without kids/dogs etc then the bag ban probably has less impact on you than some others.

For lots of people, those free bags were used for a lot of other purposes (bins/nappies/dog poo/wet clothes after swimming lessons/dirty clothes at childcare/art work from school/lunches/bathroom bins etc). They all had to get replaced with something else.. often buying other plastic bags! Which makes the whole thing seem like a complete waste of time.

Its a bit different to the impact if you just do one weekly shop walking around the corner to your local grocery store/market.

Of course you won't effect the environment.. you probably don't even need a car!!

You might use 3 bags.. we use 15 and sometimes more. And we'd reuse every one of them. Normally more than once.

I support the ban but agree with this; the phrase 'single use' bags is disingenuous because I reused them, either as a rubbish bin or to carry my lunch. I have plenty saved up but if when it gets to the point that I have to pay for a plastic bag to put my rubbish in, I'll be a bit pussed because it negates the supposed benefits.

 

[medusala]

What is with Australia and the ability to **** up the most basic of schemes?

Just keep the old thin ones. Charge 10c a bag for people who forget about the bags or don't care about the charge. The thicker bags was pointless as their even worse for the environment.

I hate nanny state nonsense as much as the next guy but not sure how anyone can say this is not a good thing.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-36917174

Plastic bag use has plummeted in England since the introduction of a 5p charge last year, the government has said.

In the six months after the levy was brought in last October, 640 million plastic bags were used in seven major supermarkets in England, it says.

In 2014, the waste reduction charity Wrap estimated the same shops had used 7.64 billion bags over the full year.

If that trend were to continue over the year this would be a drop of 83%.