Coach Collingwood and Buckley - time to move on

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Blue1980

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So everyone reckons Buckley is finished. And maybe he is. But then who?

They'll ask Clarkson but I'm not sure they'll be able to get him if he's committed to the Hawthorn rebuild.

Then it's Ross Lyon? Don Pyke? Michael Voss? Someone untried?
I’m guessing they will try and go for an AFL coach with previous experience, not sure they should, but at a guess that’s what they will do.

Bucks has had 10 seasons now, and I think a perfect storm of last years trade period, injuries this season, a few more who look like they are past their best or will never have a season better than 2018.

So will be a bit of regeneration and I’d say a fresh start would make sense with a new coaching group.
 

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Who holds that record now?
Believe it’s Whitten on 228. Assuming he coaches the year out he goes to 226 which is good for second. Lots of pretty good coaches in and around that games bracket.
He’s still miles off most coached matches total without a flag - Rocket Eade has that easily with 377.
 
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Ron The Bear

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Who holds that record now?
Games
Coach
Club
Playing Coach
228​
Whitten senior, Ted
W.B.​
174​
223​
Daniher, Neale
Melb​
0​
219​
Carter, F. Wally
N.M.​
3​
214​
Stephen, Bill
Fitz​
48​
212​
Buckley, Nathan
Coll​
0​
211​
Scott, Brad
N.M.​
0​
193​
Rose, Bob
Coll​
0​
184​
Hinkley, Ken
P.A.​
0​
184​
Lyon, Ross
Frem​
0​
167​
Northey, John
Melb​
0​
167​
Cameron, Leon
GWS​
0​
166​
Craig, Neil
Adel​
0​
162​
Eade, Rodney
W.B.​
0​
152​
Eade, Rodney
Syd​
0​
 
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LeverPuller

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Total
Person
Player
Coach
PlayingCoach
492​
Buckley, Nathan
280​
212​
0​
434​
Lyon, Ross
129​
305​
0​
423​
Cameron, Leon
256​
167​
0​
385​
Quinlan, Bernie
366​
19​
0​
383​
Harvey, Robert
383​
0​
0​
372​
Stephen, Bill
162​
210​
48​
364​
Johnson, Brad
364​
0​
0​
353​
Carter, F. Wally
137​
216​
3​
353​
Frawley, Danny
240​
113​
0​
353​
Pavlich, Matthew
353​
0​
0​
350​
Hawkins, Doug
350​
0​
0​
Slightly different stat Ron The Bear - it’s longest tenure as coach at a single club without a flag. Instant you win a flag you’re ruled out.
Right now as far as I can tell it’s:
Whitten 228
Daniher 223
Carter 219
Stephen 214
B Scott 211
Buckley 211*

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There is one coach who adds an anomaly though - Chris Scott. While he has won a flag, he has now coached 217 matches at the same club since said flag without tasting success again.
 
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Ron The Bear

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There is one coach who adds an anomaly though - Chris Scott. While he has won a flag, he has now coached 217 matches at the same club since said flag without tasting success again.
Most games coached since last flag

Games
CoachClub(s)
MCareer
LastFlag
LastFlag
To
326​
Minogue, DanRi,Ha,Ca,St,Fi
362​
36​
1921​
1942​
320​
Hafey, TomRi,Co,Ge,Sy
522​
202​
1974​
1988​
268​
Worsfold, JohnWC,Es
388​
120​
2006​
2020​
250​
McHale, JockCo
714​
464​
1936​
1949​
242​
Barassi, Ron D.Me,Ca,NM,Me,Sy
515​
273​
1977​
1995​
218​
Scott, ChrisGe
243​
25​
2011​
2021​
207​
Sheedy, KevinEs,GWS
679​
472​
2000​
2013​
193​
Longmire, JohnSy
242​
49​
2012​
2021​
191​
Reynolds, DickEs
417​
226​
1950​
1960​
184​
Roos, PaulSy,Me
268​
84​
2005​
2016​
183​
Walls, RobertFi,Ca,Br,Ri
347​
164​
1987​
1997​
174​
Pagan, DenisNM,Ca
344​
170​
1999​
2007​
169​
Dyer senior, JackRi
222​
53​
1943​
1952​
154​
Clark, NormanCa,Ri,Ca,St,NM
214​
60​
1915​
1931​
150​
Bentley, PercyRi,Ca
414​
264​
1947​
1955​
 
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Most games coached since last flag

Games
CoachClub(s)
MCareer
LastFlag
LastFlag
To
326​
Minogue, DanRi,Ha,Ca,St,Fi
362​
36​
1921​
1942​
320​
Hafey, TomRi,Co,Ge,Sy
522​
202​
1974​
1988​
268​
Worsfold, JohnWC,Es
388​
120​
2006​
2020​
250​
McHale, JockCo
714​
464​
1936​
1949​
242​
Barassi, Ron D.Me,Ca,NM,Me,Sy
515​
273​
1977​
1995​
218​
Scott, ChrisGe
243​
25​
2011​
2021​
207​
Sheedy, KevinEs,GWS
679​
472​
2000​
2013​
193​
Longmire, JohnSy
242​
49​
2012​
2021​
191​
Reynolds, DickEs
417​
226​
1950​
1960​
184​
Roos, PaulSy,Me
268​
84​
2005​
2016​
183​
Walls, RobertFi,Ca,Br,Ri
347​
164​
1987​
1997​
174​
Pagan, DenisNM,Ca
344​
170​
1999​
2007​
169​
Dyer senior, JackRi
222​
53​
1943​
1952​
154​
Clark, NormanCa,Ri,Ca,St,NM
214​
60​
1915​
1931​
150​
Bentley, PercyRi,Ca
414​
264​
1947​
1955​
sh*t didn’t realise McHale - just clicked as I was looking at it.
 

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Can't see Buckley being sacked unless there is open revolt. He will play the young blokes so the club can see what they have. A caretaker coach ain't gonna fix it.

Tough sell to the veterans like Pendlebury though.
I’d hope Pendlebury is smart enough to realise he’s played his last final.
 

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Lose against the Kangaroos next weekend and the Collingwood board will come out and say that Nathan Buckley has the full support of the board..... so Nathan is safe.
 

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I’d hope Pendlebury is smart enough to realise he’s played his last final.
A few years ago after a listless Collingwood performance, he observed that the game "didn't really mean anything" as he was used to Collingwood preparing for finals or at least fighting to get there. There'll be more where that came from.
 

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It’s going nothing to do with the media.

If anything, they’ve been soft on him with some going as far as to suggest that he should be renewed.
still think it is weird that the whole systemic racism thing was parked at Eddie's door and Bucks was not held accountable. That seemed to be a collective media decision as to who would carry the can publicly.

On the footy side I agree too, there is obviously a huge amount of respect for Bucks capabilities in the media (esp. former players), they see him differently to the fans.
 

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So Collingwood has salary cup problems??? With that list?

Sorry, I mean lucky they got rid of treloar before his wife Played netball in Brisbane and she destroyed the clubs chances this year.
I wonder which player gets shown the underneath mechanics of a bus this year?
Please keep this football department together .... can someone point me to the gofundme page that’s set up, so I can donate??? #sidebyside
They could offload De Goey pretty easily and not miss a beat.
 

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So everyone reckons Buckley is finished. And maybe he is. But then who?

They'll ask Clarkson but I'm not sure they'll be able to get him if he's committed to the Hawthorn rebuild.

Then it's Ross Lyon? Don Pyke? Michael Voss? Someone untried?
Just an idea on the next coach from left field - they could undergo a thorough interview process. A bit similar to the ones Hawks, Tigers, Dogs & Eagles did to get their respective coaches. None of these blokes were experienced before becoming premiership coaches. Maybe instead of reaching to get Clarko they could find the next Clarko by doing a bit of homework and research instead of the lazy approach
 

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Worth noting if he were to stay he would become the coach with the most matches at a single club without a premiership in VFL/AFL history.
Just another stat worth noting - assume the pies don’t make the 8 this year, Bucks would have 10 completed seasons and only improved on the previous seasons ladder position once (2017 to 2018). Every other year he has either stagnated or gone backwards. How can anyone survive this unless they’re looked after in a boys club?
 

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