Coach Collingwood and Buckley - time to move on

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owen87

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Apr 23, 2016
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Is Bucks a better coach than Brad Scott? Simon Goodwin? Chris Connolly? Neale Daniher? Rodney Eade? Leon Cameron? Etc.
I'd say Brad Scott was a better coach than he gets credit for. Absolutely don't rate Goodwin or Cameron of the current ones though, so would say Buckley is better than those two and on par with Brad Scott. Worse than Chris Scott, Hardwick, Longmire & Clarkson of the coaches over 200 games.

He's managed to avoid having Collingwood bottoming out, but I've never seen them play in a way that suggests some kind of outstanding coaching mind at the helm.
 

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beema limapep

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Stupid question, but why didn't Collingwood sign a Ben Brown or a Jesse Hogan for low coin?

Are they that skint/compromised by appaulingly thought out contracts?

The mind shudders. List managers should be frog marched out of the place.
 

RUNVS

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The thing I don't get is that the media is still talking about what a great guy Buckley is. Did they not see what happened late last year where Buckley was caught lying to one of his players by saying the playing group did not like him in order to make him feel as uncomfortable as possible and force said player to request a trade? How can anyone say that Buckley is a good/honourable person after that?
 

The 747

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The thing I don't get is that the media is still talking about what a great guy Buckley is. Did they not see what happened late last year where Buckley was caught lying to one of his players by saying the playing group did not like him in order to make him feel as uncomfortable as possible and force said player to request a trade? How can anyone say that Buckley is a good/honourable person after that?
Well Wayne Carey is a good bloke
Jobe Watson is a good bloke
Hirdy is a good bloke
Andy D had a misunderstanding about his notes
Chris Scott is a likeable fella
And on it goes......
 

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Kappa

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Stupid question, but why didn't Collingwood sign a Ben Brown or a Jesse Hogan for low coin?

Are they that skint/compromised by appaulingly thought out contracts?

The mind shudders. List managers should be frog marched out of the place.
Ben brown is old on a decent contract with a broken down body, hogan doesn’t want to play footy in Victoria until the media spotlight...

also, we’re rebuilding so don’t really need old players...
 

cleanhands

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The thing I don't get is that the media is still talking about what a great guy Buckley is. Did they not see what happened late last year where Buckley was caught lying to one of his players by saying the playing group did not like him in order to make him feel as uncomfortable as possible and force said player to request a trade? How can anyone say that Buckley is a good/honourable person after that?
Good tennis player evidently
 

LeverPuller

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I have another reason.

So the media can stop talking about ******* Collingwood.

17 other clubs, dweebs. Dees on top of the ladder for first time in 16 years, a really close race for the top in talent, a battle for 8th where you can make a case for 5 taking the slot, but the refrain is constantly ******* Buckley, ******* Collingwood. It’s exhausting and I’m not even in Melbourne!
 

Scotland

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May 5, 2006
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I have another reason.

So the media can stop talking about ******* Collingwood.

17 other clubs, dweebs. Dees on top of the ladder for first time in 16 years, a really close race for the top in talent, a battle for 8th where you can make a case for 5 taking the slot, but the refrain is constantly ******* Buckley, ******* Collingwood. It’s exhausting and I’m not even in Melbourne!
The Eddie effect. Remember the 90s when people watched The Footy Show? He was the host, he became Collingwood president and every Pies game was a BLOCKBUSTER they spent 10 minutes talking about. Just ignore the fact that from 1995 to 2001 they didn't even make the finals once...

People just need to take a step back and realise they are just another club. They're not even the biggest fish in their own fishbowl any more.

If the Pies were 7-0 (not far off 0-7) the hype would be unbearable.
 

The 747

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Watched a bit of the Sunday footy show and wow did they defend Bucks hard (except for Lloyd to his credit). Mega boys club.
Then watched a bit of AFL360 and saw Robbo pleading to "sign Bucks up for two years and move forward". Then complained about the media spending 10 minutes on another show talking about Buckley while spending 10 minutes talking about Buckley. I gather insight and self awareness are not required skills in the media.
 

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