Collingwood board meltdown gameday thread

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So the Pies members have a choice between two groups, neither of which is actually looking towards the best interests of the club’s core focus: winning games of football and netball across their 5 sides.

Right now, the Pies are as follows:
- AFL Men’s team: 16th, hopeless.
- AFL Women’s team: season finished 3rd, bumped out in prelim. Their most successful team.
- VFL Men’s team: 10th with a game in hand, battling to make the 6.
- VFL Women’s: Unbeaten and dominant.
- Super Netball: 5th and just out of finals.

So 2/5 definite contenders, 1 borderline, 1 chasing and 1 hopeless.

The problem is the hopeless one probably brings in 90% of revenue.

So Pies voting members, my question to any prospective board member asking for your vote would be:

“What would you do to restore the ongoing dominance of the Collingwood Football Club through the sustained success and winning of premierships by the club’s primary revenue maker, being the men’s AFL side?’
This thread is awesome .... Melbourne supporters giving Collingwood supporters advice on dominance.

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SimpkinByTheDockOfTheBay

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True of all clubs I dare say.

Before anyone says their club is different...When was the last time a candidate who didn't have the support of the current board won election?
The Bombers during their doping meltdown?

The Jake Niall piece about club's now using nomination committees is interesting.

We had a contested board election year before last, long time North type, moderately successful in life got the nod.

He didn't use any social media on his campaign, came on here (our board) and was immediately rude to people so got sledged to sh*t then lost by a fair margin.
 

Grand Uncle Horace

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I feel for the rank and file members. They have a club board that simply doesn't care about them.
The Browne/Kelly Group do not want the EGM to go ahead either. They certainly have shown no interest in facing the members. They do not have a policy platform.

These are a bunch of wealthy nobs jockeying for the house in Toorak that gives them the best view over the Yarra at Vicky Park and whatever the Lexus Centre is called nowadays.

I suspect Pie fans are most devastated by the dismal efforts of their team. Many would be cranky about the fire sale and how Treloar was bad mouthed by the Club including Buckley. They would be mystified by the Beams recruitment and lacklustre F/S selections all of which likely had McGuire's mitts involved.
 

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SimpkinByTheDockOfTheBay

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So the Pies members have a choice between two groups, neither of which is actually looking towards the best interests of the club’s core focus: winning games of football and netball across their 5 sides.

Right now, the Pies are as follows:
- AFL Men’s team: 16th, hopeless.
- AFL Women’s team: season finished 3rd, bumped out in prelim. Their most successful team.
- VFL Men’s team: 10th with a game in hand, battling to make the 6.
- VFL Women’s: Unbeaten and dominant.
- Super Netball: 5th and just out of finals.

So 2/5 definite contenders, 1 borderline, 1 chasing and 1 hopeless.

The problem is the hopeless one probably brings in 90% of revenue.

So Pies voting members, my question to any prospective board member asking for your vote would be:

“What would you do to restore the ongoing dominance of the Collingwood Football Club through the sustained success and winning of premierships by the club’s primary revenue maker, being the men’s AFL side?’
Yep, this. They don't actually "need" all the side stuff in the way North or the Dees or Dogs needs to heavily promote the W and community stuff to get govt and sponsorship dollars.
 

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So the Pies members have a choice between two groups, neither of which is actually looking towards the best interests of the club’s core focus: winning games of football and netball across their 5 sides.

Right now, the Pies are as follows:
- AFL Men’s team: 16th, hopeless.
- AFL Women’s team: season finished 3rd, bumped out in prelim. Their most successful team.
- VFL Men’s team: 10th with a game in hand, battling to make the 6.
- VFL Women’s: Unbeaten and dominant.
- Super Netball: 5th and just out of finals.

So 2/5 definite contenders, 1 borderline, 1 chasing and 1 hopeless.

The problem is the hopeless one probably brings in 90% of revenue.

So Pies voting members, my question to any prospective board member asking for your vote would be:

“What would you do to restore the ongoing dominance of the Collingwood Football Club through the sustained success and winning of premierships by the club’s primary revenue maker, being the men’s AFL side?’
This is precisely the issue.

McGuire set up the club so that it was a King, a bishop and 5 pawns. Plus a tonne of proxy votes from sponsors to use as they feel.

The king had/has carte blanche to do whatever they like, such as installing a mate as coach despite them not interviewing for the role and not having coaching experience. Then gives them a decade as coach, despite having gone backwards on the ladder for 9 out of 10 seasons. And lets the coach choose his best mates as assistants. Then also overrates and overpays players on the list resulting in a salary cap crisis. And then nobody is every held to account for any decision or non-decision.

This system was always going to be anti-evolutionary long term. The strange thing is that based on McGuire's comments on Footy Classified yesterday that he doesn't understand at all that his legacy is actually the problem...
 

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We’ve had only 4 different Presidents and 4 different Coaches over the past 36 years.
We turnover our officials LESS than anyone. That’s why you’re all wetting your pants over this, none of you can remember Collingwood having any Admin turmoil before.
We are usually at the top of the ladder, but pressure builds over time, people stay too long and it comes to a head. Out last big upheaval was 1982, before that was 1974. But it always gets resolved and we move on. That’s our history.
Enjoy it bed wetters while you can.
 

queensberryrules

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We’ve had only 4 different Presidents and 4 different Coaches over the past 36 years.
We turnover our officials LESS than anyone. That’s why you’re all wetting your pants over this, none of you can remember Collingwood having any Admin turmoil before.
We are usually at the top of the ladder, but pressure builds over time, people stay too long and it comes to a head. Out last big upheaval was 1982, before that was 1974. But it always gets resolved and we move on. That’s our history.
Enjoy it bed wetters while you can.
Are you happy with 4 flags since the Hindenburg exploded?
 

Suma Magic

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The news that they are still having to shift money around to stay under the TPP can’t help the board. What were they thinking with all this.
 

SimpkinByTheDockOfTheBay

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All bar two on our board are AFL planted, including Eddie’s CEO of JamTv. How conflicted is that?

Whilst Wanganeen promotes another teams game in Dreamtime.
Yeah, it is shocking.

One thing I liked about Eddie run Collingwood is that he stuck up for small clubs like mine because he knew the AFL is gaining more and more control over other clubs - some it runs outright - and once there's a majority of AFL beholden clubs the likes of Collingwood will lose their independence.
 

SimpkinByTheDockOfTheBay

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This is precisely the issue.

McGuire set up the club so that it was a King, a bishop and 5 pawns. Plus a tonne of proxy votes from sponsors to use as they feel.

The king had/has carte blanche to do whatever they like, such as installing a mate as coach despite them not interviewing for the role and not having coaching experience. Then gives them a decade as coach, despite having gone backwards on the ladder for 9 out of 10 seasons. And lets the coach choose his best mates as assistants. Then also overrates and overpays players on the list resulting in a salary cap crisis. And then nobody is every held to account for any decision or non-decision.

This system was always going to be anti-evolutionary long term. The strange thing is that based on McGuire's comments on Footy Classified yesterday that he doesn't understand at all that his legacy is actually the problem...
Great post!

My read is that Eddie saved Collingwood from a bad place, but instead of building the kind of contemporary 21st century AFL club that has sustained success (Geelong/Richmond/Hawthorn) proceeded to build a 1970s style VFL club.

Which was always his dream, I don't think anyone should be surprised he did it.

It is interesting that of the Big Four, only Richmond has moved beyond the VFL era in the way it operates and thinks, and that's due to a root and branch rebuild of the club's operations by Gale a decade ago.

Collingwood still has that to come.
 

SimpkinByTheDockOfTheBay

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We’ve had only 4 different Presidents and 4 different Coaches over the past 36 years.
We turnover our officials LESS than anyone. That’s why you’re all wetting your pants over this, none of you can remember Collingwood having any Admin turmoil before.
We are usually at the top of the ladder, but pressure builds over time, people stay too long and it comes to a head. Out last big upheaval was 1982, before that was 1974. But it always gets resolved and we move on. That’s our history.
Enjoy it bed wetters while you can.
You've won a single premiership in the last 30 years.

North and the Dogs have faced mergers/bankruptcy/relocation drama in that time and won as many or more flags.

With Collingwood's enormous structural financial advantage, the last 30 years have been an enormous failure.
 

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