News Collingwood involved in new sports hub

[76woodenspooners]

Interesting development ...

FYI Knightmare , I think this has been something you’ve been strongly advocating for over the journey?

Can anybody figure out what it might mean in terms of bricks and mortar?

The old Glasshouse is heritage listed (FYI Vicky Park ). Unless they plan to put it into the derelict old bar area (wouldn’t have thought there’d be anywhere near the amount of space for what they’re talking about?)

The new Glasshouse is, well, new - although maybe they could extend upwards as long as they don’t shade the Yarra?

Maybe they could build something on the Eastern side of the Olympic Oval?

See below article from club website below ...

https://m.collingwoodfc.com.au/news/2019-04-26/a-new-sports-hub-for-victoria

The first stage of Victoria Sport, a landmark sports and medical research hub in the heart of Melbourne, will be realised with the assistance of $15million from the Federal Government.

The $70 million Victoria Sport project has grown out of an innovative partnership between the Collingwood Football Club and Monash University that will further Melbourne and Australia’s position as a global leader in sports performance, development and medical research.

Victoria Sport will deliver outstanding new sports infrastructure in the Melbourne and Olympic Park precinct and support the Australian Government’s vision of increasing participation in sport. The treatment of, and research into, injuries in female sports will be of particular focus.

Federal Treasurer Josh Frydenberg announced the funding for Victoria Sport at Collingwood’s training venue in the Melbourne and Olympic Parks precinct on Friday.

Treasurer Frydenberg said the $15million was written into in the recent federal budget and is not contingent upon the outcome of the upcoming Federal election.

“Victoria Sport will be a world-first, multidisciplinary hub for sports medicine research and knowledge sharing. It will enhance performance and the physical and wellbeing of people involved at all levels of sport,” Frydenberg said.

“The new hub will further enhance Melbourne’s reputation as an international sporting capital and deliver powerful community benefits through a partnership between Monash University and the Collingwood Football Club.”

Through Victoria Sport, Collingwood and Monash University will distribute research discoveries and world-leading expertise to create maximum impact in the community. The hub will connect to Monash’s higher education and research expertise, health services, health professionals and clinical networks at major metropolitan Melbourne hospitals and throughout regional Victoria.

“Monash University research at Victoria Sport will define and develop world leading practise in sports injury prevention, treatment and rehabilitation, for male and female athletes, with a focus on player wellbeing and mental health,” Professor Marc Parlange, Provost and Senior Vice-President of Monash University, said.

“This funding will create knowledge that will be shared across and benefit our sporting communities.”

Collingwood president Eddie McGuire said that being able to offer a service to all athletes – from the elite to the grassroots – and drive research outcomes that may improve the health of all Australians makes Victoria Sport a necessary addition to the nation’s sports landscape.

“Our club seeks to play a major role of social responsibility and leadership and Victoria Sport will enable us to drive key health and well-being initiatives across all sports at all levels,” McGuire said.

“The new facilities will underpin our position as a national sporting club and our commitment to women’s sport. We share the Government’s vision to boost women’s participation in sport at all levels. Victoria Sport will also link to our major community partnerships and regional footprint, and to our teams in AFL, AFLW, Netball and Wheelchair AFL.”

In addition to providing research programs and clinical services, Victoria Sport will offer training expertise, sports and health education and community programs assistance.

Victoria Sport will:

Attract and retain the world’s best athletes, coaches, performance staff, elite-sports administrators, sport and medical researchers, and clinicians.
Enhance women’s sport participation at elite and community levels.
Drive research into sports injury prevention, treatment and rehabilitation for women
Improve health and wellbeing for all people involved in sport.
Export knowledge and impact programs nationally and around the world.
Create an international brand for impact in health and sport.
Victoria Sport facilities will include:

Treatment clinics and performance research laboratories
New facilities for women’s sport
Education and Conference Theatres
Olympic Park Visitor Centre
Rehabilitation Gymnasium

https://m.collingwoodfc.com.au/news/2019-04-26/a-new-sports-hub-for-victoria

 

[Knightmare]

Interesting development ...

FYI Knightmare , I think this has been something you’ve been strongly advocating for over the journey?

Can anybody figure out what it might mean in terms of bricks and mortar?

The old Glasshouse is heritage listed (FYI Vicky Park ). Unless they plan to put it into the derelict old bar area (wouldn’t have thought there’d be anywhere near the amount of space for what they’re talking about?)

The new Glasshouse is, well, new - although maybe they could extend upwards as long as they don’t shade the Yarra?

Maybe they could build something on the Eastern side of the Olympic Oval?

See below article from club website below ...

https://m.collingwoodfc.com.au/news/2019-04-26/a-new-sports-hub-for-victoria

The first stage of Victoria Sport, a landmark sports and medical research hub in the heart of Melbourne, will be realised with the assistance of $15million from the Federal Government.

The $70 million Victoria Sport project has grown out of an innovative partnership between the Collingwood Football Club and Monash University that will further Melbourne and Australia’s position as a global leader in sports performance, development and medical research.

Victoria Sport will deliver outstanding new sports infrastructure in the Melbourne and Olympic Park precinct and support the Australian Government’s vision of increasing participation in sport. The treatment of, and research into, injuries in female sports will be of particular focus.

Federal Treasurer Josh Frydenberg announced the funding for Victoria Sport at Collingwood’s training venue in the Melbourne and Olympic Parks precinct on Friday.

Treasurer Frydenberg said the $15million was written into in the recent federal budget and is not contingent upon the outcome of the upcoming Federal election.

“Victoria Sport will be a world-first, multidisciplinary hub for sports medicine research and knowledge sharing. It will enhance performance and the physical and wellbeing of people involved at all levels of sport,” Frydenberg said.

“The new hub will further enhance Melbourne’s reputation as an international sporting capital and deliver powerful community benefits through a partnership between Monash University and the Collingwood Football Club.”

Through Victoria Sport, Collingwood and Monash University will distribute research discoveries and world-leading expertise to create maximum impact in the community. The hub will connect to Monash’s higher education and research expertise, health services, health professionals and clinical networks at major metropolitan Melbourne hospitals and throughout regional Victoria.

“Monash University research at Victoria Sport will define and develop world leading practise in sports injury prevention, treatment and rehabilitation, for male and female athletes, with a focus on player wellbeing and mental health,” Professor Marc Parlange, Provost and Senior Vice-President of Monash University, said.

“This funding will create knowledge that will be shared across and benefit our sporting communities.”

Collingwood president Eddie McGuire said that being able to offer a service to all athletes – from the elite to the grassroots – and drive research outcomes that may improve the health of all Australians makes Victoria Sport a necessary addition to the nation’s sports landscape.

“Our club seeks to play a major role of social responsibility and leadership and Victoria Sport will enable us to drive key health and well-being initiatives across all sports at all levels,” McGuire said.

“The new facilities will underpin our position as a national sporting club and our commitment to women’s sport. We share the Government’s vision to boost women’s participation in sport at all levels. Victoria Sport will also link to our major community partnerships and regional footprint, and to our teams in AFL, AFLW, Netball and Wheelchair AFL.”

In addition to providing research programs and clinical services, Victoria Sport will offer training expertise, sports and health education and community programs assistance.

Victoria Sport will:

Attract and retain the world’s best athletes, coaches, performance staff, elite-sports administrators, sport and medical researchers, and clinicians.
Enhance women’s sport participation at elite and community levels.
Drive research into sports injury prevention, treatment and rehabilitation for women
Improve health and wellbeing for all people involved in sport.
Export knowledge and impact programs nationally and around the world.
Create an international brand for impact in health and sport.
Victoria Sport facilities will include:

Treatment clinics and performance research laboratories
New facilities for women’s sport
Education and Conference Theatres
Olympic Park Visitor Centre
Rehabilitation Gymnasium

https://m.collingwoodfc.com.au/news/2019-04-26/a-new-sports-hub-for-victoria

Any investment in research and creating economic points of difference I view as a positive politically.

A project with Collingwood involved that can further the club's brand. And having everything on sight that's easy access for Collingwood. As long as nothing completed impacts upon or limits player training, and it shouldn't. No reason Collingwood shouldn't be involved from my perspective. In a footy club as with any business, you want to keep expanding and getting bigger and improving your standing v your competitors.

 

[JB1975]

Nice that it's embedded in the last budget, so that we can collect the cash without having to vote for Scott Morrison. Just in case that point needed to be reinforced.

This post was written and authorised by JB1975 on behalf of no one in particular, and does not express support, expressly or otherwise, for any political party or candidate.

 

[Markfs]

Fitzroy gardens, royal botanic, and the carlton gardens can go. The Alexandra gardens south of the river could be converted into something useful. Waste of space. In fact, I would be bulldozing most of richmond and putting up a string of sports foundations and research centres. Melbourne is really lacking in this area.

 

[barrackers]

Interesting development ...

FYI Knightmare , I think this has been something you’ve been strongly advocating for over the journey?

Can anybody figure out what it might mean in terms of bricks and mortar?

The old Glasshouse is heritage listed (FYI Vicky Park ). Unless they plan to put it into the derelict old bar area (wouldn’t have thought there’d be anywhere near the amount of space for what they’re talking about?)

The new Glasshouse is, well, new - although maybe they could extend upwards as long as they don’t shade the Yarra?

Maybe they could build something on the Eastern side of the Olympic Oval?

See below article from club website below ...

https://m.collingwoodfc.com.au/news/2019-04-26/a-new-sports-hub-for-victoria

The first stage of Victoria Sport, a landmark sports and medical research hub in the heart of Melbourne, will be realised with the assistance of $15million from the Federal Government.

The $70 million Victoria Sport project has grown out of an innovative partnership between the Collingwood Football Club and Monash University that will further Melbourne and Australia’s position as a global leader in sports performance, development and medical research.

Victoria Sport will deliver outstanding new sports infrastructure in the Melbourne and Olympic Park precinct and support the Australian Government’s vision of increasing participation in sport. The treatment of, and research into, injuries in female sports will be of particular focus.

Federal Treasurer Josh Frydenberg announced the funding for Victoria Sport at Collingwood’s training venue in the Melbourne and Olympic Parks precinct on Friday.

Treasurer Frydenberg said the $15million was written into in the recent federal budget and is not contingent upon the outcome of the upcoming Federal election.

“Victoria Sport will be a world-first, multidisciplinary hub for sports medicine research and knowledge sharing. It will enhance performance and the physical and wellbeing of people involved at all levels of sport,” Frydenberg said.

“The new hub will further enhance Melbourne’s reputation as an international sporting capital and deliver powerful community benefits through a partnership between Monash University and the Collingwood Football Club.”

Through Victoria Sport, Collingwood and Monash University will distribute research discoveries and world-leading expertise to create maximum impact in the community. The hub will connect to Monash’s higher education and research expertise, health services, health professionals and clinical networks at major metropolitan Melbourne hospitals and throughout regional Victoria.

“Monash University research at Victoria Sport will define and develop world leading practise in sports injury prevention, treatment and rehabilitation, for male and female athletes, with a focus on player wellbeing and mental health,” Professor Marc Parlange, Provost and Senior Vice-President of Monash University, said.

“This funding will create knowledge that will be shared across and benefit our sporting communities.”

Collingwood president Eddie McGuire said that being able to offer a service to all athletes – from the elite to the grassroots – and drive research outcomes that may improve the health of all Australians makes Victoria Sport a necessary addition to the nation’s sports landscape.

“Our club seeks to play a major role of social responsibility and leadership and Victoria Sport will enable us to drive key health and well-being initiatives across all sports at all levels,” McGuire said.

“The new facilities will underpin our position as a national sporting club and our commitment to women’s sport. We share the Government’s vision to boost women’s participation in sport at all levels. Victoria Sport will also link to our major community partnerships and regional footprint, and to our teams in AFL, AFLW, Netball and Wheelchair AFL.”

In addition to providing research programs and clinical services, Victoria Sport will offer training expertise, sports and health education and community programs assistance.

Victoria Sport will:

Attract and retain the world’s best athletes, coaches, performance staff, elite-sports administrators, sport and medical researchers, and clinicians.
Enhance women’s sport participation at elite and community levels.
Drive research into sports injury prevention, treatment and rehabilitation for women
Improve health and wellbeing for all people involved in sport.
Export knowledge and impact programs nationally and around the world.
Create an international brand for impact in health and sport.
Victoria Sport facilities will include:

Treatment clinics and performance research laboratories
New facilities for women’s sport
Education and Conference Theatres
Olympic Park Visitor Centre
Rehabilitation Gymnasium

https://m.collingwoodfc.com.au/news/2019-04-26/a-new-sports-hub-for-victoria

If it's a new building I hope the club can include a small grandstand as part of the roof.

 

[Vicky Park]

The old Glasshouse is heritage listed (FYI @Vicky Park ). Unless they plan to put it into the derelict old bar area (wouldn’t have thought there’d be anywhere near the amount of space for what they’re talking about?)

Yep, and some of the land around The Glasshouse is on the State Heritage Register, so not a lot of room to move there.

I'm intrigued about the location of the new facility. The references in the article are a bit vague, mainly referring to the 'Melbourne and Olympic Park precinct', which could be anywhere in the precinct, and not neccessarily at the Holden Centre/Olympic Park Oval. Hmmm, I'd hate for our female teams to be located too far away. Alternatively, this could be part of our ongoing expansion and takeover of the precinct.

But I'm speculating, and look forward to more detail.

 

[Knightmare]

Fitzroy gardens, royal botanic, and the carlton gardens can go. The Alexandra gardens south of the river could be converted into something useful. Waste of space. In fact, I would be bulldozing most of richmond and putting up a string of sports foundations and research centres. Melbourne is really lacking in this area.

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Melbourne needs more rather than less green space. It encourages greater physical activity, promotes greater air quality - both of which are key variables towards health of residents to those in Melbourne, East Melbourne, along St Kilda Road and Carlton and also is nice for those visiting including tourists who don't just want to see office and residential buildings. They want to have more of an experience and see more than just that.

From a business/research perspective with Melbourne lacking the infrastructure (rail and road) to support the population it already has even before our ongoing rapid population growth (and we can always go more vertical which is the likely outcome anyway), I'd be looking at Geelong, Ballarat and Bendigo among other areas emerging cities that desire to grow in Victoria to get more of these opportunities going to give people greater reason to leave Melbourne. Geelong is already a real education and health hub and I see that only expanding and growing with how their economy has really impressively adjusted. Get those economies going in big ways and maybe we can make high speed rail between Melbourne and those growing regional cities a thing in time.

Box Hill probably gets taller and generates more business activity, Doncaster has the scope to, Camberwell, Hawthorn and other suburbs we are also likely to see greater business growth of varying scales. Clayton has a lot of research facilities and more plausibly may go up out that way. And there will be the equivalent suburbs in the North, South and West.

Melbourne is by world standards a physically very small city/CBD but as a resident I consider it great because of it's suburbs, having incredible sporting facilities and events, not having an overwhelmingly large CBD and importantly having incredible green spaces though I'd contend not just around the CBD, but inside the CBD there needs to be more. The probable solution will be vertical gardens and rooftop gardens which are the most easily and practically implemented, but I look at it from a very different angle where you want it to be a nice play to visit, work and live with the 'livability' of the city one of it's great selling points historically.

 

[Knightmare]

As an aside, I'm really pleased with the direction of Fisherman's Bend and the plan to make that residential. Looks like it will be a nice spot. Lots of green spaces planned. More public transport will be needed to that Port Melbourne area. But the development idea and the plans for what it will look like I really like.

 

[barrackers]

Yep, and some of the land around The Glasshouse is on the State Heritage Register, so not a lot of room to move there.

I'm intrigued about the location of the new facility. The references in the article are a bit vague, mainly referring to the 'Melbourne and Olympic Park precinct', which could be anywhere in the precinct, and not neccessarily at the Holden Centre/Olympic Park Oval. Hmmm, I'd hate for our female teams to be located too far away. Alternatively, this could be part of our ongoing expansion and takeover of the precinct.

But I'm speculating, and look forward to more detail.

The south eastern corner is also likely restricted due to the BOM station; having just moved it due to buildings impacting wind recordings I can't imagine they'd be keen to block it in again. That said the carpark in that corner looks logical or along the eastern wing if the facility is on the Holden Centre side. There's another carpark between Gosch's paddock and AMMI Park that could be covered. Given it seems more office/commercial space the other option is for the facility to be developed on the tennis centre side of the precinct.

What side of AMMI Park is the existing sports medical centre?

 

[Vicky Park]

What side of AMMI Park is the existing sports medical centre?

North side? Entered from Olympic Boulevard?

 

[barrackers]

North side? Entered from Olympic Boulevard?

From this image it looks to be in the north-east corner, or the opposite side of the ground to the Holden Centre.

 

[Markfs]

Melbourne needs more rather than less green space. It encourages greater physical activity, promotes greater air quality - both of which are key variables towards health of residents to those in Melbourne, East Melbourne, along St Kilda Road and Carlton and also is nice for those visiting including tourists who don't just want to see office and residential buildings. They want to have more of an experience and see more than just that.

From a business/research perspective with Melbourne lacking the infrastructure (rail and road) to support the population it already has even before our ongoing rapid population growth (and we can always go more vertical which is the likely outcome anyway), I'd be looking at Geelong, Ballarat and Bendigo among other areas emerging cities that desire to grow in Victoria to get more of these opportunities going to give people greater reason to leave Melbourne. Geelong is already a real education and health hub and I see that only expanding and growing with how their economy has really impressively adjusted. Get those economies going in big ways and maybe we can make high speed rail between Melbourne and those growing regional cities a thing in time.

Box Hill probably gets taller and generates more business activity, Doncaster has the scope to, Camberwell, Hawthorn and other suburbs we are also likely to see greater business growth of varying scales. Clayton has a lot of research facilities and more plausibly may go up out that way. And there will be the equivalent suburbs in the North, South and West.

Melbourne is by world standards a physically very small city/CBD but as a resident I consider it great because of it's suburbs, having incredible sporting facilities and events, not having an overwhelmingly large CBD and importantly having incredible green spaces though I'd contend not just around the CBD, but inside the CBD there needs to be more. The probable solution will be vertical gardens and rooftop gardens which are the most easily and practically implemented, but I look at it from a very different angle where you want it to be a nice play to visit, work and live with the 'livability' of the city one of it's great selling points historically.

yeh yeh... i suppose it's ok to have a garden at the back of the sports research megaplex, but using gardens to get the tourists in is a poor use of resources. melbourne needs to concentrate more on sports stuff. i'd like to see them import that german knee specialist and set him up in the cbd. i'd like to see some specialist sports schools set up that cover from preschool years up.... i think tiger woods started playing golf at 3 so we should go earlier.

As a fan of economics, you'd understand that we need to get into an area where we have a comparative advantage. Melbourne can produce champions at a lower opportunity cost than the rest of the world..... focus on that and we'll all be rich

 

[Black_White]

$70 million.
Feds, $15 million.
Shortfall $55 million?
So...............?

 

[Knightmare]

yeh yeh... i suppose it's ok to have a garden at the back of the sports research megaplex, but using gardens to get the tourists in is a poor use of resources. melbourne needs to concentrate more on sports stuff. i'd like to see them import that german knee specialist and set him up in the cbd. i'd like to see some specialist sports schools set up that cover from preschool years up.... i think tiger woods started playing golf at 3 so we should go earlier.

As a fan of economics, you'd understand that we need to get into an area where we have a comparative advantage. Melbourne can produce champions at a lower opportunity cost than the rest of the world..... focus on that and we'll all be rich

I agree strongly with you sports/sports performance/medicine/sports entertainment and related industries need to be among Melbourne's points of difference and it already is. In the education sector and health sectors I also agree we need to push this further and we need to continue upgrading our present facilities and looking for ongoing opportunities so that we retain if not add to the current sporting events we already host in Melbourne.

Gardens are about more than tourists. It's about the livability for those in and around the city - health, enjoyment, reducing emissions, reducing population density.

Even beyond the inner city areas, outdoor spaces should exist in all suburbs with obesity through lack of exercise, a lack of vitamin D through not enough sun issues where cases of incidence reduce with these spaces.

 

[Markfs]

Even beyond the inner city areas, outdoor spaces should exist in all suburbs with obesity through lack of exercise, a lack of vitamin D through not enough sun issues where cases of incidence reduce with these spaces.

ok we can make some concessions for the fat bastards in the suburbs.... but you can lead a horse to water but you cant get a fat bastard out in a park running around...

The fact is that melbourne has already allocated a few hundred acres to sports in and around the city area and the city is thriving. There's very little that australians can do to make a quid, so we need to push hard in the areas where we have an advantage like sports. Sports centres, research megaplexes etc could deliver millions. You mention fat bastards in the burbs, and we're not bad in that area, but the USA has millions of people who can hardly walk they're so fat. I suppose we could generate some economic wealth trying to get melbournians healthier but we're never going to generate export income in servicing american fatties. We need some industries where our kiddies can use their skills and save up for a house or three. I suppose there's always alcohol... we're good at that..

 

[76woodenspooners]

Looking at the pic below, I guess an obvious place would be on Olympic Blvd out the front of the old Glasshouse ...

 

[Knightmare]

ok we can make some concessions for the fat bastards in the suburbs.... but you can lead a horse to water but you cant get a fat bastard out in a park running around...

The fact is that melbourne has already allocated a few hundred acres to sports in and around the city area and the city is thriving. There's very little that australians can do to make a quid, so we need to push hard in the areas where we have an advantage like sports. Sports centres, research megaplexes etc could deliver millions. You mention fat bastards in the burbs, and we're not bad in that area, but the USA has millions of people who can hardly walk they're so fat. I suppose we could generate some economic wealth trying to get melbournians healthier but we're never going to generate export income in servicing american fatties. We need some industries where our kiddies can use their skills and save up for a house or three. I suppose there's always alcohol... we're good at that..

In Australia we have growing incidences of cancer, heart disease and respiratory problems.

Simply having more green spaces and cleaner air is a starting point. Further to that it helps with physical and psychological wellbeing. It's also important in combating air pollution and creating sustainable areas that won't be prone to flooding, extreme heat with trees a natural cooler.

You're right that not everyone will choose to utilise green spaces. But if they are there. There will be people utilising it. Mick Malthouse utilises the Fitzroy Gardens most if not every day - you'll see him often walking along with his shades. It's a lifestyle thing for a lot of people and something a lot of people enjoy and you'll notice it as with ocean/beach views, you're going to be mega paying a price premium if you're overlooking any parks or gardens around Melbourne because it is something a lot of people value as with our waterways.

 

[Black_White]

In Australia we have growing incidences of cancer, heart disease and respiratory problems.

Simply having more green spaces and cleaner air is a starting point. Further to that it helps with physical and psychological wellbeing. It's also important in combating air pollution and creating sustainable areas that won't be prone to flooding, extreme heat with trees a natural cooler.

You're right that not everyone will choose to utilise green spaces. But if they are there. There will be people utilising it. Mick Malthouse utilises the Fitzroy Gardens most if not every day - you'll see him often walking along with his shades. It's a lifestyle thing for a lot of people and something a lot of people enjoy and you'll notice it as with ocean/beach views, you're going to be mega paying a price premium if you're overlooking any parks or gardens around Melbourne because it is something a lot of people value as with our waterways.

It’s a pity that Melbourne continues to pay homage to the motor vehicle.
Need a hell of a lot more green spaces to compensate for the explosion in vehicle/road construction.
I always marvel at the view when driving over the range to see, well sometimes see, the high rises of Melbourne. You can see the smog from kilometres away.

 

[Markfs]

Simply having more green spaces and cleaner air is a starting point. Further to that it helps with physical and psychological wellbeing. I

overlooking a swimming pool and a couple of expensive cars normally helps most people's well being the most. You seem to overstress the less important things in life... people on $100K are saying that they're struggling. Half the population has psychological problems because they think they're underachieving. We need to focus less on the peripherals like grass and flowers and concentrate on the main game...money.....

case in point....

1 the ALP has the only climate policy out of the two major parties. Its the only major party that is treating global warming seriously.

2. Liberals are full of born again christians who are waiting for a second coming of jesus to end the world, not global warming. They actively work against climate change policies because they think being rich is more important.

Result - Liberals win election....cash is king

so rework those parks into sports science megaplexes...

 

[Markfs]

It’s a pity that Melbourne continues to pay homage to the motor vehicle.
Need a hell of a lot more green spaces to compensate for the explosion in vehicle/road construction.
I always marvel at the view when driving over the range to see, well sometimes see, the high rises of Melbourne. You can see the smog from kilometres away.

when you're driving over the range pack a suitcase and settle down up north...

 

[Knightmare]

It’s a pity that Melbourne continues to pay homage to the motor vehicle.
Need a hell of a lot more green spaces to compensate for the explosion in vehicle/road construction.
I always marvel at the view when driving over the range to see, well sometimes see, the high rises of Melbourne. You can see the smog from kilometres away.

The smog is incredible. It once wasn't a thing, but it's a regular sight and has been a progressively worsening sight these past 10-15 years.

A sad situation really.

overlooking a swimming pool and a couple of expensive cars normally helps most people's well being the most. You seem to overstress the less important things in life... people on $100K are saying that they're struggling. Half the population has psychological problems because they think they're underachieving. We need to focus less on the peripherals like grass and flowers and concentrate on the main game...money.....

case in point....

1 the ALP has the only climate policy out of the two major parties. Its the only major party that is treating global warming seriously.

2. Liberals are full of born again christians who are waiting for a second coming of jesus to end the world, not global warming. They actively work against climate change policies because they think being rich is more important.

Result - Liberals win election....cash is king

so rework those parks into sports science megaplexes...

Overwork, proximity to place of work, increased time to get to work, less time with families, less physical activity are variables more strongly correlated with overstress, anxiety and happiness/unhappiness (all issues on the rise) rather than whether one owns a pool or expensive motor vehicle. Financial stress is our common ground in terms of variables we will both agree on.

In terms of financial stresses there are two key areas. Buying a property firstly - it's unreasonable for most to buy in the areas they want and/or buy the size of property they want. And for others simply being able to buy is an issue. Given this I appreciate ALP's attempts to reduce prices through limiting negative gearing to new housing and halving the capital gains tax discount as methods to make investment less appealing and reduce demand from investors to make buying more realistic for first home buyers. That's a starting point though further policies will need to be implemented to further (and gradually over time) reduce property prices to more realistic levels. On the other side of the coin, I don't view the quality of construction to be of an acceptable standard and it hasn't been for a long time. Particularly apartment complexes that have gone up over the past 10+ years have been for the vast majority very much slap dash jobs. Focus shouldn't be on affordable housing but rather quality housing that is safe and of suitable size where it's somewhere you'd actually want to live and feel comfortable living. So it's really about bringing that price down and moving that quality of property and size of property up at the same time.

The second area I consider troubling other than the property market is the childbirth rates in Australia and how low the numbers of children women have today are. It's a sign of a grossly unhealthy economy that our population excluding immigration cannot grow on its own. Per woman in Australia, my view is we need an average of 2-3 children per woman produced and to do this we need to create economic conditions conducive to this. And to do that radical tax reform is needed. I'd be looking at something along the lines of an increase to the taxation threshold to $30k. For married couples pool those total earnings together and move that up to $60k. For each additional child they have an additional $10k increase to that tax free threshold. I'd also look for people with second and third jobs for those jobs not to be taxed at a different rate to their primary job. The consequence of such an action is those in those tax brackets after that first $30k for singles, or $60k for those who are married means they'll be paying more. But ultimately if you put money in the hands of the poor, they're going to spend. Give tax cuts to the poor, it makes buying homes of suitable size realistic and having the number of children they desire realistic. With a growing population, that means a growing economy. Children coming from working families are relatively high probability to have success and help the long term economy.

I also appreciate an idea I heard a few months ago from Paul Keating about a longevity levy. Such a concept allows people to retire earlier and those who live past 85 receive the financial security to continue living even when their superannuation runs out. Covering off that age group, that's the element missing. And by people (not being forced out of work) but having the capacity if they choose to retire sooner that means job openings for our youth who today more than ever are struggling find a way into the workforce.

Economically and this is an issue globally with any party in any nation. Everything is about the short term and about GDP growth. Governments sell off public services to make a quick buck (without the long term understanding that those services will be worth so much more with each passing year). My view is economically the focus needs to be a long term economic focus and a focus on - what is it that will mean people get the best public services and are in the best financial position to own their own homes and be able to provide for a family as large as they desire and also for future generations to be able to having greater standards of living than we presently enjoy. And a major part of that final point is environment. You let Adani loose near the Great Barrier reef and let the water temperatures continue rising and there is no Great Barrier reef and no tourism industry meaning there are no longer tourism jobs. If the water way gets polluted and our air quality reduced and we lose our competitive advantage of being able to produce the best and healthiest plants and animals.

Science, research, education and healthcare I wholeheartedly agree are among the most critical economic points of difference we need to drive forward in. But we still need liveable conditions (no one wants a reduced standard of living) and don't want our other industries (tourism, agriculture, fresh water) that have potential scope to be dominant over the long term in the way our natural resources have long allowed us to be.

 

[Vicky Park]

Looking at the pic below, I guess an obvious place would be on Olympic Blvd out the front of the old Glasshouse ...

Its difficult 76. The plan below shows the triangular area (building, land and 'S' for Arthur Boyd sculpture) included in the heritage register. Heritage Victoria is extremely unikely to allow a new building to be constructed between the old Olympic Pool building and Swan Street (since renamed Olympic Boulevard). Its gonna have to go somewhere else. The old pool is a much venerated Modernist building among architects and heritage heads (and others!) and blocking any more views of the building would be a no-no.

The plan also shows the old Olympic Park Stand which was demolished to allow construction of the Glasshouse and redevelopment of the oval (for us).

 

[DinoSoar]

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What side of AMMI Park is the existing sports medical centre?

It’s on the eastern (Punt Rd) side of AAMI Park stadium.

 

[76woodenspooners]

Its difficult 76. The plan below shows the triangular area (building, land and 'S' for Arthur Boyd sculpture) included in the heritage register. Heritage Victoria is extremely unikely to allow a new building to be constructed between the old Olympic Pool building and Swan Street (since renamed Olympic Boulevard). Its gonna have to go somewhere else. The old pool is a much venerated Modernist building among architects and heritage heads (and others!) and blocking any more views of the building would be a no-no.

The plan also shows the old Olympic Park Stand which was demolished to allow construction of the Glasshouse and redevelopment of the oval (for us).

Interesting.

When you overlap your heritage register map over the satellite pic I posted a little earlier in the thread, it can be seen that the New Glasshouse already infringes on some of the L1 heritage land on the South Eastern side of the main building.

Maybe the club believe that they can get access to more of that L1 land?

Anyway, it seems that some concepts do exist as Ed referred to in his presser. He’s got pics behind him, ...

https://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/vi...onference-eddie-mcguire-on-the-new-sports-hub

... I’ve put up a screenshot below. I can’t figure out where the building would be (the 2 cars left of pic under the microphone being a clue) ...

 

[Vicky Park]

Interesting.

When you overlap your heritage register map over the satellite pic I posted a little earlier in the thread, it can be seen that the New Glasshouse already infringes on some of the L1 heritage land on the South Eastern side of the main building.

Maybe the club believe that they can get access to more of that L1 land?

Anyway, it seems that some concepts do exist as Ed referred to in his presser. He’s got pics behind him, ...

https://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/vi...onference-eddie-mcguire-on-the-new-sports-hub

... I’ve put up a screenshot below. I can’t figure out where the building would be (the 2 cars left of pic under the microphone being a clue) ...

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I’ll have a look at the presser