Roast Collingwood need to end their association with Melbourne on QB

[76woodenspooners]

It's a show piece event which we CO STAR IN not for me , not for my old man ,not for any other OLD COLLINGWOOD stalwart . RULE NUMBER 1 then DONT HELP MELBOURNE. That's firstly were not co stars , secondly it's not appreciated by the league and in fact they belittle us and use the you want blockbuster line,
Me I think a annual q/birthday game with port would be sensational , give us all a chance to experience Adelaide oval long weekend and all.
Make it a Magpie weekend with our vfl team playing there's , wine tours , parties ect , put a road train together
It really goes against my grain this current arrangement my father was great mates with Des healey , and WHO can forget that incident.
We would benefit with bigger brand awareness in another state that is within driving distance , rewarding our LOYAL SOUTH AUSSIE and Western district MAGPIE fans , plenty by the way.
BETTER THAN HELPING THEM

Kudos to you for suggesting an alternative.

I reckon it has good merit. Playing interstate reinforces our national profile ("Biggest club in the land" and all that). Good for sponsorship deals.

... but ...

I think you'd have a difficult time getting the senior coach on board, or the many Victorian Collingwood supporters who go along to QB even if it is an away game.

 

[76woodenspooners]

... so it was strange to hear Buckley complaining about the fixturing in the post-match press conference that day: ....

Buckley did retract that comment pretty quickly. Somebody at the club probably explained to him how the bills get paid.

 

[gopies1981]

I think some of us are just sore losers. I like the queens birthday and its tradition. We average 70's each queens birthday and the biggest home and away crowd of all time was 99,346 between Collingwood and Melbourne in queens bday in 1958.

What I do not agree with tho is giving Melbourne a home game. Next year should be Collingwood's home game. Plus with Melbourne looking to be a good side in the next few years and if we can manage to have infield success then you will see 80,000 plus crowds in queens bday

 

[76woodenspooners]

You must have 76woodenspooners on ignore do you?

Awesome!!!

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[thatday]

Kudos to you for suggesting an alternative.

I reckon it has good merit. Playing interstate reinforces our national profile ("Biggest club in the land" and all that). Good for sponsorship deals.

... but ...

I think you'd have a difficult time getting the senior coach on board, or the many Victorian Collingwood supporters who go along to QB even if it is an away game.

As one of those supporters I actually wouldn't mind us playing interstate more often. I go to every game in Melbourne haven't missed one in years but I like it when the Pies play interstate. Frankly I doubt the majority of supporters would really notice us playing one less game.

I'd rather we play interstate than a home game at Etihad against one of the Etihad tenants. Can we somehow work that into the deal?

 

[76woodenspooners]

As one of those supporters I actually wouldn't mind us playing interstate more often. I go to every game in Melbourne haven't missed one in years but I like it when the Pies play interstate. Frankly I doubt the majority of supporters would really notice us playing one less game.

I'd rather we play interstate than a home game at Etihad against one of the Etihad tenants. Can we somehow work that into the deal?

As an interstate supporter, and regular whinger about how "The biggest club in the land" is so Melbourne centric ... I'm totally with you.

 

[SuperSub17]

Think it through ...

It's an away game.

Can you suggest which of the other 16 clubs you would rather have benefit from the game?

You want Collingwood to benefit from the game? OK then, so you're saying you want it to be a Collingwood home game then?

Therefore which of our home games would you want it to replace? Carlton? Richmond? Geelong?

And who would we play in the vacant away game? West Coast? Brisbane? Adelaide?

Playing QB is good for Collingwood.

It's not. We're like every other club, we play 11 home games and 11 away games. Whether QB is our game or Melbourne's game doesn't change that.

As far as I'm aware, we are contracted to play 14 games at the MCG, 9 of them 'home games'. So we are guaranteed 5 'away' games at the G in any case - Queen's Birthday is about as big a disadvantage for us as an away game at the G could be. Give me a random away game against Carlton on a Saturday night instead - or even just a away game to Melbourne in a normal timeslot. Playing them away in a marquee game every year is an advantage to them, not us.

As far as interstate games go, we travel 5 times this year. We host interstate sides 4 times, so we are -1 in that regard. This is before we even get to the ludicrous deal of having to host Etihad tenants at Etihad.

We don't get as good a draw as the common myth would have you believe.

 

[ottoman]

OK lot's of opinions to read, digest and analyse, which I have done.
Conclusion. Still don't GAF about the QB game.

 

[Vicky Park]

I like the holiday, but the republican in me would prefer that the Queen had nothing to do with it.

 

[ZEV]

I like the holiday, but the republican in me would prefer that the Queen had nothing to do with it.

Finally, someone has posted 100% what I was thinking!

 

[Darkyprotector]

Kudos to you for suggesting an alternative.

I reckon it has good merit. Playing interstate reinforces our national profile ("Biggest club in the land" and all that). Good for sponsorship deals.

... but ...

I think you'd have a difficult time getting the senior coach on board, or the many Victorian Collingwood supporters who go along to QB even if it is an away game.

Yeah you're prob right , but imagine if we put a Convoy of black and white buses say 40 and ALL WENT OVER TOGETHER.
WE have a great record interstate , better than our record here we bond well and we HAVE always had a great rapport with PORT , we should spend some cash and create a bonding exersize

 

[Anzacday]

Agreed. Carlton plays six interstate games this year. We'd love to swap one of those for the clash strip against Melbourne at the MCG on Queens Birthday. (Particularly if it's the one at Adelaide Oval, where we've never gotten within 10 goals of anyone.)

I don't really understand the relevance of it being 'a big day for Melbourne'. It always has been, and that hasn't stopped you trouncing them for most of the last decade. It's hard to escape the conclusion that the fixture no longer 'suits' some of the Colligwood faithful because Melbourne sometimes wins now.

In terms of compromised fixturing, Anzac Day hurts you a lot more than Queens Birthday (as well as the additional self-inflicted wounds, like requesting the Saturday arvo slot against Carlton to lead in to your 125th celebration function that evening). McGuire must have known that would mean three matches in 10 days (starting Anzac Day), so it was strange to hear Buckley complaining about the fixturing in the post-match press conference that day: the AFL had given Ed exactly what he asked for.

Hmm. Irrelevant. I'll see myself out.

I don't like Carlton or their supporters, (with the very rare exception).
You sir can join the very rare exception club.

 

[Obese Arachnid]

You must have 76woodenspooners on ignore do you?
He basically hasn't shut up about it haha

PS Now that i'm getting slightly less angry, I'm starting to see why this game might actually be ok for us....

Still, the poll is pretty close.

Like I said I only skimmed to page 3 must've missed 76woodenspooners post.

The poll would be completely different if it said.

Do you want to play Melb on QB as an away game or play interstate instead?

 

[wicksy]

Like I said I only skimmed to page 3 must've missed 76woodenspooners post.

The poll would be completely different if it said.

Do you want to play Melb on QB as an away game or play interstate instead?

I'd rather play away in a game that meant equally as much for each team. Just my opinion.

 

[BoxMatrix]

I usually try to read to the end of a thread in case my point has been made by someone else.

However, page 3 & no one, I mean no one (unless I have some unit on ignore) has mentioned why we have this fixture.

Melbourne "needed a blockbuster" so we agreed/AFL to give them the gate for a trade off.

The trade off being we get an extra game at the MCG (not our H game) & we play one less game interstate.

It really is that simple.

To go even further it's why we always play an interstate game in the pre season when some other Vic clubs don't.

I wonder if all the people complaining realise the other option of not playing this game is we'd be bloody playing interstate!

That's not true in the slightest. Every Victorian team plays five interstate away games a year. Unless they sell off home games like Hawthorn do with Tasmania.

 

[Obese Arachnid]

That's not true in the slightest. Every Victorian team plays five interstate away games a year. Unless they sell off home games like Hawthorn do with Tasmania.

Geelong, Saints, Richmond & Bullies play 6 by my count.

 

[BoxMatrix]

Geelong, Saints, Richmond & Bullies play 6 by my count.

Then that's probably a fixture quirk that the AFL are using to ensure a fairer distribution of interstate games. I haven't checked last year, but each team in 2015 played five interstate away games.

Thing is, their is no agreement between Collingwood and the AFL to play Queen's Birthday instead of an interstate game.

 

[Obese Arachnid]

Then that's probably a fixture quirk that the AFL are using to ensure a fairer distribution of interstate games. I haven't checked last year, but each team in 2015 played five interstate away games.

Thing is, their is no agreement between Collingwood and the AFL to play Queen's Birthday instead of an interstate game.

I'm not going back through past fixtures but my memory is we always play one less than all vic teams or some vic teams, just like this year.

Of course this used to be more pronounced before GWS & GC came in. I think before them there were even seasons when we played 2 less than some vic clubs.

Whether it's written in our contract or just a gentleman's agreement with the AFL is neither here nor there for me.
Facts are I can't think of any year where we played more interstate games than the some or all vic teams.

 

[Howezat]

Celebrating the Queen's birthday itself seems an antiquated notion. May as well keep a rivalry that's almost as old as her.

 

[buzzbuzz]

Feel like this is a pretty juvenile reaction to the fact that we lost.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

We have a return home game with Melbourne this year anyway. Likely that the crowd size is unlikely to be significantly smaller than qb if both teams maintain their form.

Leave it as it is. We are already guaranteed the Anzac Day windfall.This is melbournes only chance to make a buck.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Celebrating the Queen's birthday itself seems an antiquated notion. May as well keep a rivalry that's almost as old as her.

No more antiquated than all the other excuses we use for holidays!!!!

That Jesus dude is worth about four of them. Not counting Sunday's!

War is worth one.

And some trade unionists from the olden days are worth another

And then there's the grand final parade....

And a horse race.....

 

[wicksy]

Well done Eddie. Thank you for getting on Bigfooty and listening to me.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...e/news-story/b3c78c1b9ed41f64d99727c3bcc28a0c

COLLINGWOOD is considering reclaiming its lucrative share of the Queen’s Birthday blockbuster gate for the first time in almost 20 years.

The Herald Sun can reveal the Magpies are in talks to end an agreement with Melbourne which has given the Dees hosting rights to the annual clash every year since 2001.

Collingwood will formalise its position in next year’s fixture requests in part because of the funds the powerhouse club already contributes to rivals through the AFL’s equalisation policies.

 

[loki04]

But you're missing the point. It's not about the opponent or the location. It's the fact that the game has become a "Grand Final" for our opposition. Add the Neil Daniher factor to it and you have a game whereby the romance factor is heavily in Melbourne's favour. You just have to see the build up, listen to the commentary, watch the umpires get involved.... Our boys on the flip side, clearly couldn't give a sh*t about it. They're used to having 60-70k at the G.

Now on top of this, they always get the gate?

Turn it up Melbourne!

As I posted earlier we are 10 wins 6 losses and a draw vs Melb on QB. People are blurring our 2nd games later in the year with QB and making their own realities to how often we "lose" that game.

On top of this it is great experience for our 22 to play in games like the QB and AD as it is the closest replica to finals they will get outside it. Many players have referred to playing on Anzac day to be "GF day" like.

Invaluable experience wouldn't you say? much less chance of being "shell shocked" in our first return final.

 

[The Dawes]

No more antiquated than all the other excuses we use for holidays!!!!

That Jesus dude is worth about four of them. Not counting Sunday's!

War is worth one.

And some trade unionists from the olden days are worth another

And then there's the grand final parade....

And a horse race.....

the horse race trumps them all.