Scandal Collingwood star Jordan De Goey charged with indecent assault - NO sexual jokes or inappropriate comments.

[Wosh]

NOTE: No jokes about sexual assault or the alleged victim. Keep it clean, civil and remember Jordan De Goey has only been charged at this stage and NOT found guilty of anything.

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

What is " a full club drug problem "btw?

Please do tell.

Hahaha well...

 

[DieSwans]

Two of those claims have not been proven or even close to being proved - so perhaps you're cooked?

Give it a rest and hope that you are never the subject of your own, "guilty until proven innocent" behaviour.

Keep ya head in the sand, idc

 

[Veer Right]

Hes not going to jail.... do people understand in Victoria how hard it is to get a jail conviction for a wealthy high profile sports star?

There's not a chance he spends time.

Cousins?

 

[Port Adel Proud]

Cmon he just a little sleep and walk out the wrong door that had a woman there.

Why the assumption that the alleged victim is a female.

 

[Ice-Wolf]

Btw Milne was charged with rape then after the st.kilda board member and policeman working his case "lost" the key files, he then pled guilty to the lesser charge of indecent assault (which is the charge Degoeys on).

LOL Milne wasn't charged until a decade later and a investigation found that what the whistle blower said about the handling of the case was full of absolute crap.

 

[Sassermon]

There is no victim until a crime has been proven.

Uhhhhh noooooo, the moment a crime has been commited there is a victim. Likewise, if a false accusation has been made there is a victim of that false accusation. Either way there is a victim here. But the idea that if an assault can't be proven then it didnt happen is completely absurd.

 

[ChesterTreasure]

If you think the social drugs at Collingwood over the period arent at the same level as the Eagles were 15 years ago ( that right DH 15 years ago) you are delusional.

What is " a full club drug problem "btw?

Please do tell.

2010 - Premiership celebrations at such and such pub. Each group of senior players allocated a rookie or second year player to join their group so as to feel part of the occasion. One such rookie instructed by a dual All Australian and Copeland Trophy winner to exit via a side door and meet a bloke down the street to collect a backpack as there would be much less chance that he would be recognized by the milling press outside waiting for a juicy photo opportunity.
Nah - there's never been a drug issue at the Pies !!!

 

[Austoraisetheurn]

Uhhhhh noooooo, the moment a crime has been commited there is a victim. Likewise, if a false accusation has been made there is a victim of that false accusation. Either way there is a victim here. But the idea that if an assault can't be proven then it didnt happen is completely absurd.

Hook up culture has changed the playing field. These days, it is nothing to match with someone on Tinder and be making out and having sex within 10 minutes of meeting them.

It is nothing for both males and females to have slept with over 100 different partners by your mid to late 20's. I personally know females and males who have slept with more than

Females are not as well equipped to deal with this culture mentally, as men. This is well documented in the scientific literature. Indeed, something like 1 in 3 women 'regret' having a hooking for whatever reason. Perhaps the guy ghosted them after the encounter, perhaps the women felt it might lead to a relationship and the man had other ideas. Either way, having many sexual partners can take a toll on both men and women.

However, regretting an encounter the next day, does not mean that you were sexually assaulted or raped. My issue with #metoo was that it was sailing very close to the line with this. Bad dates were being classed as 'sexual assault', or a socially awkward guy at a bar was being classed as a 'sleaze' when to most, he was just socially awkward.

 

[Austoraisetheurn]

Uhhhhh noooooo, the moment a crime has been commited there is a victim. Likewise, if a false accusation has been made there is a victim of that false accusation. Either way there is a victim here. But the idea that if an assault can't be proven then it didnt happen is completely absurd.

False accusations or just 2 different interpretations of a consensual encounter altered by the passage of time and feelings of regret?

Hook up culture can take a mental toll on people. Evolutionary speaking, women arent as well adapted to deal to this as men.

 

[Billyc]

Hook up culture has changed the playing field. These days, it is nothing to match with someone on Tinder and be making out and having sex within 10 minutes of meeting them.

It is nothing for both males and females to have slept with over 100 different partners by your mid to late 20's. I personally know females and males who have slept with more than

Females are not as well equipped to deal with this culture mentally, as men. This is well documented in the scientific literature. Indeed, something like 1 in 3 women 'regret' having a hooking for whatever reason. Perhaps the guy ghosted them after the encounter, perhaps the women felt it might lead to a relationship and the man had other ideas. Either way, having many sexual partners can take a toll on both men and women.

However, regretting an encounter the next day, does not mean that you were sexually assaulted or raped. My issue with #metoo was that it was sailing very close to the line with this. Bad dates were being classed as 'sexual assault', or a socially awkward guy at a bar was being classed as a 'sleaze' when to most, he was just socially awkward.

I think I have spotted the incel. What a terrible post.

 

[South of the Yarra]

No I haven’t. Do you just make up thoughts in your head and then attribute them to people in real life, or is it just here?

I suggest you re-read (or at least read for the first time) my post, then, and only then, get back to me.

Thanks for the suggestion. You really have a limited understanding of our legal system.

 

[Austoraisetheurn]

I think I have spotted the incel. What a terrible post.

What part of it do you not agree with?

Im not going to resort to name calling. Perhaps try making a counter point or argument rather than a cheap shot at my sexual prowess.

 

[BigFrizz36]

Just quietly things are not going tgat well for the magpie bottle blondes. Crisp looks a shadow of his former self. Stevenson can't touch it after the 10 minute mark of the first quarter, Howe injured and now de goey.

 

[Austoraisetheurn]

Conversely I know of cases in highschool where girls cried wolf and nothing had ever happened. 1 of the girls had never even spoke to the guy, never even met him outside of walking past the poor prick in school. Luckily she recanted after being confronted by the guys GF who caught her out in the lie.

Yes we need to take more cases seriously but equally there are inoccent men out there that get forever tarnished by jilted exes or crazy randoms looking for attention money or god knows what.

In Degoeys case I don't know the details if hes done the wrong thing with proof then he deserves whatever he gets.

Id say with a high degree of certainty most people on Bigfooty, and especially this thread, have never read a book outside of old porno mags or the form guide for the dogs and trots.

I dont necessarily think women who make accusations that are unsubstantiated in a court of law are lying. Rather, i believe there are two sides to the story. Two people can have different takes on the one event and both can believe sincerely believe them.

The case of Aziz Ansari is a case in point.

 

[sounda]

Uhhhhh noooooo, the moment a crime has been commited there is a victim. Likewise, if a false accusation has been made there is a victim of that false accusation. Either way there is a victim here. But the idea that if an assault can't be proven then it didnt happen is completely absurd.

How come there are so many aggressive dumb people posting here? You can believe what you want but the facts are the facts. I do not recall arguing that it didn't happen!

I am always amazed at how stupid people write something down - completely misrepresenting what has been noted - and then imply the other party is somehow at fault. At times, it feels like the planet has been taken over by the dumb people.

"Likewise, if a false accusation has been made there is a victim of that false accusation." Wow ... that's impressive ... it really is impressive. Priceless, absolutely priceless!

"Either way there is a victim here."

Yes, me! I have been subjected to the inane ramblings of a buffoon.

You finished with absurd - nice touch!

 

[Silver Tongue]

Id say with a high degree of certainty most people on Bigfooty, and especially this thread, have never read a book outside of old porno mags or the form guide for the dogs and trots.

I dont necessarily think women who make accusations that are unsubstantiated in a court of law are lying. Rather, i believe there are two sides to the story. Two people can have different takes on the one event and both can believe sincerely believe them.

The case of Aziz Ansari is a case in point.

Intriguing 1st paragraph and summation of Big Footy posters. A 'high degree of certainty' you say ..

Did you apply a quantitative or longitudinal framework to your research as you pull that ludicrous statement out of your arse?

A sad situation for all parties involved in the alleged indecent assault

 

[Port Adel Proud]

Id say with a high degree of certainty most people on Bigfooty, and especially this thread, have never read a book outside of old porno mags or the form guide for the dogs and trots.

I dont necessarily think women who make accusations that are unsubstantiated in a court of law are lying. Rather, i believe there are two sides to the story. Two people can have different takes on the one event and both can believe sincerely believe them.

The case of Aziz Ansari is a case in point.

You should read some of the compelling, well argued, posts on various boards before leaping to conclusions about the capacity of people who frequent Big Footy.

 

[Sassermon]

How come there are so many aggressive dumb people posting here? You can believe what you want but the facts are the facts. I do not recall arguing that it didn't happen!

I am always amazed at how stupid people write something down - completely misrepresenting what has been noted - and then imply the other party is somehow at fault. At times, it feels like the planet has been taken over by the dumb people.

"Likewise, if a false accusation has been made there is a victim of that false accusation." Wow ... that's impressive ... it really is impressive. Priceless, absolutely priceless!

"Either way there is a victim here."

Yes, me! I have been subjected to the inane ramblings of a buffoon.

You finished with absurd - nice touch!

Not sure that there was any aggression to my response, simply that I strongly disagree with the idea that theres no victim until its proven and its quite a reckless sentiment. If you feel like questioning my intelligence and calling me names strengthens your case then good for you.
I'm quite happy to stand by my statement as much as you tantrum. Either someone has felt abused in some way or someone has had their actions misrepresented. Whichever it is is unfortunate for the victimized party.

 

[LuckyBounce!]

If convicted im sure they will.

Btw Milne was charged with rape then after the st.kilda board member and policeman working his case "lost" the key files, he then pled guilty to the lesser charge of indecent assault (which is the charge Degoeys on).

That being said DeGoey still deserves the presumption of innocence

 

[Port Adel Proud]

There is no victim until a crime has been proven. To be a victim of a crime requires a criminal act. Fact!

A charge is simply ... a charge. it is but one incomplete side of the equation. Fact!

The evidence has not been tested against the rules of evidence in court. Fact!

Speculative sentences like "Keep victim in mind." is a very mischievous and misleading attempt to imply guilt. You have no right to do that. Fact!

Cool your jets sunshine!

Any fact finding process is bedeviled with difficulties. Fact!

A verdict is, therefore, not infallible. Fact!

Therefore, some people are wrongfully acquitted. Fact!

You attack fellow posters. Fact!

 

[sounda]

Any fact finding process is bedeviled with difficulties. Fact!

A verdict is, therefore, not infallible. Fact!

Therefore, some people are wrongfully acquitted. Fact!

You attack fellow posters. Fact!

Not sure if that is designed to make you feel better or position you as the champion of others.

"Any fact finding process is bedeviled with difficulties. Fact!"

That's why we have the law.

"A verdict is, therefore, not infallible. Fact!"

Because no one knew that until you informed everyone ... Einstein!

"You attack fellow posters. Fact!"

You ought to learn the difference between defence and attack.

And now I am left struggling to figure out why I responded to your churlish post! Onto ignore you go!

 

[lissimmo]

Whoever thinks they are, do you know if there is any difference between sexual assault and indecent assault charges in Vic, the headline uses one then within the article the other, is it interchangeable or levels of offenses are different?

Good point!

 

[sounda]

You should read some of the compelling, well argued, posts on various boards before leaping to conclusions about the capacity of people who frequent Big Footy.

Oh ... so you are the defender of others.

 

[ShadeyP]

At this rate Collingwood might be the first club to have a player charged with a future crime.


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Chuck a tenner on Jaidyn Stephenson for me , thanks cobber !

 

[loki04]

It was claimed not exactly PROOF.

It was PROVEN by IA that critical evidence went missing.

It was also stated by 2 not 1 but 2 police officers working the case that internal interference happened.

There was also an article around a forced retirement from someone working the case not long after.

LOL Milne wasn't charged until a decade later and a investigation found that what the whistle blower said about the handling of the case was full of absolute crap.

LOL Milne was originally "charged" whilst playing.

The evidence just grew legs and lost itself did it? The naivety...

So 2 cops were full of s**t because a 2nd officer came out corroborating the first guy...nothing suss.