List Mgmt. COLLINGWOOD Trade and F/A Discussion

[Bramax]

It's all a bit speculative anyway. Nick Daicos is OURS - JHF won't be. We should just be happy we have a future gun heading our way.

Absolutely.

 

[Jafo]

Guess we just hold our cards (picks) for the just in case field. Even though Nth have committed to taking JHF in next month’s draft.

 

[Crazy Tails]

Guess we just hold our cards (picks) for the just in case field. Even though Nth have committed to taking JHF in next month’s draft.

Yeah the temptation would be to move 27 out early but I'm hoping we hold it until draft night just in case. If they call ND at 1 then we lose 27. Just the way it is.

GW and crew will just have to have multiple live pick swap options lined up each time the bid moves out.

 

[jonbe54]

Guess we just hold our cards (picks) for the just in case field. Even though Nth have committed to taking JHF in next month’s draft.

Unless we split 27 for a couple of 3rds before draft night - not sure who has what left though.

 

[jatsad]

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Unless we split 27 for a couple of 3rds before draft night - not sure who has what left though.

I think they may have teed up Richmond's 38 and 40 for 27 should a bid at 1 come. This will eat up all our pick's so hopefully they have something else in mind as well

 

[jonbe54]

I think they may have teed up Richmond's 38 and 40 for 27 should a bid at 1 come. This will eat up all our pick's so hopefully they have something else in mind as well

Understood for me I would of course like to end up with a future second or upgrade our future 1st but the overriding priority should be to protect our 1st and get Nick without penalty after that it's a matter of opportunity or perhaps taking advantage of a pre laid plan.

 

[magpies42]

Understood for me I would of course like to end up with a future second or upgrade our future 1st but the overriding priority should be to protect our 1st and get Nick without penalty after that it's a matter of opportunity or perhaps taking advantage of a pre laid plan.

How do you upgrade a future first at this point?

 

[jonbe54]

How do you upgrade a future first at this point?

Pick swaps can happen all the way up to draft night 42

 

[domus]

I have been calling for the brown brothers to be delisted for years.

but ngl I did see some promise in Callum Brown of all people late in the season.

Will never be A graders but can add value as role players

Tyler will become a good long term player. I have confidence in the boy and think he has some genuine talent.

 

[magpies42]

Pick swaps can happen all the way up to draft night 42

Yeah I’m aware and even on draft night, but without knowing finishing positions in 2022. How do you know you’re upgrading your future first?

 

[jonbe54]

Yeah I’m aware and even on draft night, but without knowing finishing positions in 2022. How do you know you’re upgrading your future first?

It's the same for any future swap I'd imagine - an educated gamble. Trading and drafting is still as much of an art as it is a science.

 

[magpies42]

It's the same for any future swap I'd imagine - an educated gamble. Trading and drafting is still as much of an art as it is a science.

I’d be inclined to leave it as ours.

 

[JuniorB]

It seems increasingly likely that NM will take JHF at pick 1:

‘They’ve said that’: North tips off No.1 draft pick Jason Horne-Francis after ‘crazy’ trade rejections

‘They’ve said that’: North tips off No.1 draft pick after ‘crazy’ trade rejections

www.foxsports.com.au

Let's hope so!

 

[slugger01]

I think they may have teed up Richmond's 38 and 40 for 27 should a bid at 1 come. This will eat up all our pick's so hopefully they have something else in mind as well

That won’t work. It will put us further behind.
Currently, unless we delist more players, we can only use 5 picks to match bids.
If we get rid of 27 (703 points), and swap it for 2 picks(38 -465 points, 40 - 429 points), we lose the use of our current 5th pick (55 -207 points) because this will become our 6th pick.
So, lose 703 and 207 points to gain 465 and 429 points puts us 16 points further behind..

 

[jonbe54]

I’d be inclined to leave it as ours.

It will be interesting to see the outcome.

 

[TakingThePies]

It seems increasingly likely that NM will take JHF at pick 1:

‘They’ve said that’: North tips off No.1 draft pick Jason Horne-Francis after ‘crazy’ trade rejections

‘They’ve said that’: North tips off No.1 draft pick after ‘crazy’ trade rejections

www.foxsports.com.au

Let's hope so!

They are. They're not bidding on Daicos or Darcy.

 

[Kings_Gambit]

They are. They're not bidding on Daicos or Darcy.

Hopefully we somehow return the favour to North. Goodwill should be recogniseD. The way GW did the Lapinski trade shows that is part of his character.

 

[lenny&carl]

It’s fine for you to have that opinion as well although Tyler is obviously younger… and being taller he’s also skinnier .

My point was about people who lazily put them in the same basket.

The EDFL basket?

 

[Rorzza]

It's been generally accepted for months that JHF will go to North at one. The questions that will not be answered until draft night is whether NM will make CFC and WB pay for their FSs. Old news!

Ps. I rate Tyler, I flagged last year and hope this year that Ruscoe and Tyler are developed accross the HBL. Should have happened last year instead of Mayne and Madge list clogging efforts. Poor list development from two senior coaches is my opinion.

 

[Hardas]

Tyler will become a good long term player. I have confidence in the boy and think he has some genuine talent.

If his body develops something like his dad's (a physically-speaking, late-bloomer), and he produces more high-possession games in the VFL.
Think there is something there, but the clock is ticking.

 

[snagbreac]

I’d be inclined to leave it as ours.

Well, footy analysts are predicting a bad season. If we were to sell it for the price of pick 5, then we could profit and take a W at the draft. If our focus is on KPP, then 2022's class is infinitely more fruitful.

 

[jatsad]

That won’t work. It will put us further behind.
Currently, unless we delist more players, we can only use 5 picks to match bids.
If we get rid of 27 (703 points), and swap it for 2 picks(38 -465 points, 40 - 429 points), we lose the use of our current 5th pick (55 -207 points) because this will become our 6th pick.
So, lose 703 and 207 points to gain 465 and 429 points puts us 16 points further behind..

Delistings may not yet be finished.

 

[Jen2310]

Delistings may not yet be finished.

I think they are, given the rest OOC have been reported in the media about recieving new deals.

Noble - 2 years
Madgen - 1 year
Cameron - I was told he has a trigger on his contract for 2022 but hasnt been reported.
Cox - Now in discussions of a contract

 

[TakingThePies]

Hopefully we somehow return the favour to North. Goodwill should be recogniseD. The way GW did the Lapinski trade shows that is part of his character.

Its about the first pick getting an extra 10 grand and the "Pick 1" brand.
North haven't ever had Pick 1, they've been hyping JHF up all year. They called him last week to tell him they weren't trading Pick 1.

They've committed to him.

 

[TradeDraft]

Its about the first pick getting an extra 10 grand and the "Pick 1" brand.
North haven't ever had Pick 1, they've been hyping JHF up all year. They called him last week to tell him they weren't trading Pick 1.

They've committed to him.

Great News for us then as we don't have to Trade anything to get the Points