List Mgmt. COLLINGWOOD Trade and F/A Discussion

[JLC]

Rumour on the S&R board that Naughton is unhappy at WBD.
I posted this:
So potentially a (tall) player wants out, (or is wanted out) of Collingwood, Fremantle, Melbourne and WBD.
Swap a few picks around and maybe something could be worked out?

Would jump at Naughton.

With Darcy and potentially Lobb, maybe the Dogs would reluctantly trade Naughton if the price is right. Unlikely but worth having a crack.

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[Timmy from Thomastown]

Rumour on the S&R board that Naughton is unhappy at WBD.
I posted this:
So potentially a (tall) player wants out, (or is wanted out) of Collingwood, Fremantle, Melbourne and WBD.
Swap a few picks around and maybe something could be worked out?

Sooner or later the penny will drop at the dogs at how many quality players beverage seems to have fallen out with over the years. He’s still in his premiership honeymoon and might be so for a while, but plenty of dogs seem to be wanting out year after year.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

I'd be satisfied with that, if the kid was a legit ruck sized player rather than another hybrid.

That’s what I meant, yes.

 

[Jen2310]

Bianco had reached a trigger for 2023 so he is locked in


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[ZEV]

Bianco had reached a trigger for 2023 so he is locked in


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You are amazing.

On top of things more than Ned Guy and Gubby were!

 

[Prexm]

I don’t understand how BG accepting a pay cut will help us in getting TT.

If TT wanted 600K and BG took a 300k cut.

Realistically, we still would need an extra (approx) 300k to get TT.

Probably be a player like say Hoskin-Elliott who would not be offered a new contract. Also we would have to give up some decent draft picks to have both.

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

You are amazing.

On top of things more than Ned Guy and Gubby were!

Do both you and Jen have me on ignore? Because I posted that above.

 

[Pistol Night]

Rumour on the S&R board that Naughton is unhappy at WBD.
I posted this:
So potentially a (tall) player wants out, (or is wanted out) of Collingwood, Fremantle, Melbourne and WBD.
Swap a few picks around and maybe something could be worked out?

Get it done Wrighty.

 

[Quicky]

If we lose Grundy we need a long term development prospect replacement rather than a vfl type top up.

I’m sure that Kreuger Begg and mcStay if he joins will be adequate immediate depth.

None of those options could play the number 1 ruck role well. They'd get pantsed. If Grundy goes we'll need to get someone in as depth as a minimum. The fix isn't on our list.

 

[Anzacday]

Do both you and Jen have me on ignore? Because I posted that above.

In case they have I’ll ask it for you
Jen2310 and BIGNEDKELLY

 

[Dead Eye Didak]

Agreed

Viable options;
BG accepts a pay cut, (may still do),
BG stays on current contract, which may impact our ability to afford new players,
We do exactly this and get some new players in.

Grundy isn't taking a pay cut, hence why he's talking to other clubs. He is entitled to what he re-signed for, and if he thinks we are not wanting to continue with that contract, he is looking at his options as to how he can get his contract honoured. I think Brodie would also understand as to why we may be looking to moving him on, because $950K x5 years is alot to invest in one player....

 

[Unknown Identity]

I would trade for Naughton in a heart beat.

 

[ExcitementMachine]

Rumour on the S&R board that Naughton is unhappy at WBD.
I posted this:
So potentially a (tall) player wants out, (or is wanted out) of Collingwood, Fremantle, Melbourne and WBD.
Swap a few picks around and maybe something could be worked out?

Would like naughton, but the guy is overrated for mine and into his fifth season and seems.to.carry injuries

Would he cost more than he's worth?
Having said that perfect fit for us.

 

[Pistol Night]

Would like naughton, but the guy is overrated for nine and into his fifth season and seems.to.carry injuries

Would he cost more than his worth?
Having said that perfect fit for us.

Overrated? Id rate him the best contested mark in the league. Easily

 

[ExcitementMachine]

Overrated? Id rate him the best contested mark in the league. Easily

He's very good, just not.up there with the very best.and what would he cost?

I'd still take him in a heartbeat though

 

[sr36]

Who is paying two first round picks though? It’s a fantasy.

Depends on what the picks are. On an appropriate salary, he's worth a top 10 pick - or two late firsts. And his salary becomes appropriate if we pay the right sized chunk of it.

 

[ZEV]

In case they have I’ll ask it for you
Jen2310 and BIGNEDKELLY

All rumours and speculation until confirmed by Jen. #1 in the game.

 

[Pistol Night]

He's very good, just not.up there with the very best.and what would he cost?

I'd still take him in a heartbeat though

A first and a good player id say. Or a first and early second

 

[manicpie]

Overrated? Id rate him the best contested mark in the league. Easily

Hmmm, Naughton and Johnson

 

[The Royal Sampler]

In terms of money to free up; what do people reckon Roughead was on after he extended?

 

[Mick F]

In terms of money to free up; what do people reckon Roughead was on after he extended?

Tier 3 - $325k

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

In terms of money to free up; what do people reckon Roughead was on after he extended?

Doubt he was on too much

But honestly, between delisting the likes of Callum Brown (who knowing Buckley was probably on way more than we all think lol), Tyler, Madgen, Ruscoe and the retirement of Roughead, I wouldn't be surprised if we could keep Grundy if he was willing to re-do his contract a little bit

 

[sr36]

Look who's joined Dog chase, gun Swan in talks, Tippa's call - Look who's joined Dog chase, gun Swan in talks, Tippa's call

Bianco has triggered a clause for 2023.

Do both you and Jen have me on ignore? Because I posted that above.

The first line confused me so much, that I didn't make it to the second line.

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

Maybe they're just trading Treloar's wage with Grundy's? Trealor's payouts end next year.

Grundy's would start next year.

Assuming all the Grundy talk is real, I'm guessing Graham Wright has put forward 2 lists:

List 1 - "This is our list over the next 5 years if we keep Brodie"
List 2 - "This is our list if we trade Brodie and pay 200K of his contract"

My guess is that List 2 looks FAR stronger than list 1 and they probably think that list is worth 200K per year for 5 years

 

[Jasper84]

In terms of money to free up; what do people reckon Roughead was on after he extended?

With triggers, front and back loading it could be anything. Which is why the obsession with using speculative dollar values to determine a player's worth is futile. Take the McStay for 600k example. On one hand it's deemed too much for one role player who will likely be best 22 and play over 20 games a year. But then the 600k isn't too much to split every year on 2 depth players who will likely not develop and play VFL all season. It doesn't get considered because we don't know what those types are earning, though league average wages show that bar 1st and second year players, most will be earning over 300k.