List Mgmt. Collingwood Trade Talk 2016 part 2 - see Mod Warning p 281

[Old Spice]

I think he is Bruce Wayne


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[left at home]

What ever we say, i know that there are a quite a few people in here that support Buckley.
But having friends that are involved and represent one of Collingwoods major sponsor they get invited to pregame dinner and luncheons, and another friend that who works at the mcg both passionate pies fans
I could tell you that this anti-buckley sentiment is norhing new.As most pies fans would know its been around for years possibly from the time he has coached.
The feedback that i get from those two in particilar, is yes he knows his football he has astute football brain.he knows his tactics
But he lacks one major element as a coach MAN MANAGEMENT.
To put it in simple terms his no Clarkson Longmire Malthouse or Beveridge those coaches have not only been able to harvest the talent from there teams, but more importantly they have been able to get everyone to play for each other and more importantly run through brick walls for the coach and his team mates. Buckley has yet to accomplish that! With leading teams , getting rid of players like Heath Shaw who never wanted to leave, he blead back and white.Unlike the others that were traded

l do not mind an opinion on bucks, one way or another. but there is a thread for it which l do read, but this is a trade thread not a buckley thread.

 

[RupetFan]

For god sake. Get back on topic, just a stupid Buckley bash.

 

[spartan-magpie]

I was at a GF luncheon today, Dal Santo was a guest speaker, he confirmed Collingwood had called him didn't mention any other clubs.

Hope it was to tell him we don't want his services.


Wells and mayne could find a spot, both have something we lack..... Dal santo and his u turns and sideways kicks don't interest me too much.

 

[Stoods]

For god sake. Get back on topic, just a stupid Buckley bash.

Every thread gets to this point sadly. Some sooner than others.

 

[BEEG]

Hope it was to tell him we don't want his services.


Wells and mayne could find a spot, both have something we lack..... Dal santo and his u turns and sideways kicks don't interest me too much.

Funny I was next to a Collingwood supporter when he told the room, we just looked at each other and both rolled our eyes.

 

[spartan-magpie]

Funny I was next to a Collingwood supporter when he told the room, we just looked at each other and both rolled our eyes.

hahahah. Yeah, would have been my reaction too. Was good player the old dal, just not anymore.

 

[Hardas]

Hope it was to tell him we don't want his services.


Wells and mayne could find a spot, both have something we lack..... Dal santo and his u turns and sideways kicks don't interest me too much.

Hoping it was for a possible coaching role of some kind.
Not to play on, surely.

 

[spartan-magpie]

Hoping it was for a possible coaching role of some kind.
Not to play on, surely.

Trade period should start Sunday. These unanswered questions are killing me.

 

[jatsad]

Caff, Crocker, Toovey, frost, Oxley, Blair all not good depth imo. Greenwood, Cox and White are borderline too. Broomhead will need to prove himself next year.
Just because they played doesn't make them good depth.

I think you're not quite right here.

Apart from the guys retiring, the others are the definitive example of depth.
Not good enough for regular spots but fill in when required.

If a depth player was better, he'd be in the team permanently.

 

[nahnah]

I think you're not quite right here.

Apart from the guys retiring, the others are the definitive example of depth.
Not good enough for regular spots but fill in when required.

If a depth player was better, he'd be in the team permanently.

gold coast have the best depth in the afl then

 

[Bad Horse]

Doomsday thread.

As I said before, there are two types

Those who hate Bucks & Eddie, will slag off anyone who throws up a trade involving anyone over 20 years of age.

Those who love the club, that have an open mind and willing to see how it progresses.

You know who you are.


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No, there are a million shades of gray, between the extremes, between the irrational defensive optimism and the equally irrational negativity.

One can be concerned with the decision making, competence and direction of our club without being a "Bucks and Eddie hater". One can be open minded and optimistic, while still being concerned, disappointed, and hoping for change. One can love this club, and still be deeply concerned about how it has been run for some time and the suitability of key people for their roles. The two are not mutually exclusive except in the thinking patterns of people who require a very simple world or whose thinking is reducable to three word slogans.

 

[The Pied Piper]

Who is this Elliott Will-Hoskin guy and does this mean we have gone cold on Will Hoskin-Elliott???

Can we just shorten his name to EWH??

WHE is the guy with the talent, & EWH is the guy that goes missing in games or is injured ..

 

[Quicky]

No, there are a million shades of gray, between the extremes, between the irrational defensive optimism and the equally irrational negativity.

One can be concerned with the decision making, competence and direction of our club without being a "Bucks and Eddie hater". One can be open minded and optimistic, while still being concerned, disappointed, and hoping for change. One can love this club, and still be deeply concerned about how it has been run for some time and the suitability of key people for their roles. The two are not mutually exclusive except in the thinking patterns of people who require a very simple world or whose thinking is reducable to three word slogans.

Right on!

 

[Quicky]

I hope this WHE for a third rumour works out. That'd be a steal.

 

[Quicky]

Biggest must this off season is bundling a few picks in the 20's for Giants 15 and 16.

Sets us up for a mammoth off season in 17. And takes 2 1sts off of the Giants.

I hope it happens, but I wouldn't hold out high hopes. It seems an awfully favourable deal for Collingwood even considering the evenness of the draft this year.

 

[TradeDraft]

I hope this WHE for a third rumour works out. That'd be a steal.

Sure Would be but I have my Doubts

 

[magpies2013]

Did hear pies interested in Jonty Scharenberg in the draft.was expected to go top 10 at start of year but has slide down between 20-35.

 

[adammania9]

I've never been keen on Hoskin-Elliott but if he's available for a 3rd and the club can still gather the late points for Brown and Daicos, then I'm on board. We have a decent track record of getting the best out of lazy players recently; so I'll put the faith in him and the staff to get him back on track.

 

[Go Woods]

Did hear pies interested in Jonty Scharenberg in the draft.was expected to go top 10 at start of year but has slide down between 20-35.

What is he? Forward/Defender?

 

[Soups]

What is he? Forward/Defender?

Inside mid. Not exactly the type we need.

 

[Apex36]

What is he? Forward/Defender?

Inside mid. I'd be astounded if we went for him. Literally the last type of player we need.

 

[BEEG]

Jonty what is he South African?

 

[Quicky]

Inside mid. I'd be astounded if we went for him. Literally the last type of player we need.

Yep our list is unbalanced with inside options. Not a need.

 

[Matt_352]

Hope WHE for a third happens. About right too as he has done nothing last couple of years.

Turn Cloke, Witts, Williams, Frost, Oxley into a couple of Picks in the 20's

Send those 2 with our Pick 25 to GWS for 15 and 16.

Take Wells, Mayne, Maric as Free Agents.

So we end up with.

#15
#16
WHE
Brown
Daicos
Wells
Mayne
Maric

Seems really realistic imo and really good off season and sets us up for a HUGE off season next year. Bigger than Treloar, Aish and Howe.