Game Day Collingwood v GWS Giants - Preliminary Finals — Sat 21 Sep, 4:35PM AEST, MCG

Who will Win?

  • Collingwood by 30+ pts

    Votes: 35 27.1%
  • Collingwood 10-30

    Votes: 48 37.2%
  • Collingwood by <10

    Votes: 9 7.0%
  • GWS Giants by <10

    Votes: 12 9.3%
  • GWS Giants by 10-30

    Votes: 14 10.9%
  • GWS Giants by 30+

    Votes: 11 8.5%

  • Total voters
    129
  • Poll closed .

(Log in to remove this ad.)

demondavey

Brownlow Medallist
Apr 18, 2005
22,538
18,007
AFL Club
Melbourne
You are a rude little person. But being rude doesn't make you understand a point that I've made dozens of times over some years !

I like the national competition where it is played by traditional football states, we didn't need two new teams in NSW and QLD.
How many times do you need to be told, has got me .

Of course everyone has to start somewhere, but GWS and GC17 WEREN'T STARTED , THEY WE CREATED MANUFACTURED GIVEN FAVOUR AFTER FAVOUR AND WERE INVENTED FOR MONEY. Grow some common sense and see where I am coming from.

Demetriou and the then Gil boy apprentice, wanted Footscray and North Melbourne to re locate, they wouldn't.
The people who followed them fought like frigging hell to stay alive in their hometown, if they had have caved in and gone where they were asked , they would have brought a culture with them like South and Fitzroy did, and money and a backing from the AFL the common people/fans/followers/members put their own money in too

!And hear this!
THERE'D BE ONLY 16 TEAMS IN THE LEAGUE. Get it????????? The game wouldn't have had to be fiddled with , because we would have had a smaller player pool and would need about 100 players LESS of elite NEW boys to deal with .
To give better standard to the game! WE ALREADY HAVE TEAMS IN NSW AND QLD ,and well well well they are successful . yes?

Admittedly helped a little too, BUT NOT LIKE THE MILLION DOLLAR PLASTICS NOW.


The players are not my target, except for the rat Greene, the team is not my target, its the rotten manipulative system that makes me angry, I am not a VFL follower , I look at Box Hill sometimes to see how Hawthorn players are running, I haven't seen a game at Whitehorse and Middleborough road ground for decades , that was VFA and probably second division, I've followed WEST PERTH AND SWAN DISTRICTS IN THIS STATE , BUT MY HOME IN MELBOURNE ONCE UPON A TIME YOU COULD WATCH FOOTY AND ENJOY IT, YESTERDAY WAS A ROTTEN LOOKING RUGBY STYLED GAME , BECAUSE SOME SIDES PLAY THAT LOCK DOWN.
BECAUSE THEY CAN'T WIN IN THE OPEN, SO THEY HAVE STOPPAGES, stoppages ????? Rugby!
THE GAME NOW IS FULL OF STOPPAGES, ITS NOW A TACTIC NOW!,

Well MORE things have changed and when umpires dictate matches , talk patronisingly to players and make mistakes by the ton, and when bloody Gerard Healy talks on TV about... " pay more frees"... I nearly fall off the couch. Stop start, and pack football.

Looking like something out of the 60's on a mud packed surface??? Not on the beautiful surfaces like now days, but these bloke have to play with their capabilities on the ground , because out of all of them ,
OUT OF ALL OF THEM! A GREAT MANY CAN'T HANDLE THE BLEEDING PILL! You know what too, those old timers at that level weren't bad in the bog pile of mud in those day

TV rights were the whole reason , why the hell do you think that the AFL sends teams to China, to promote and make business deals and invent ways to MAKE MORE MONEY.

In doing so they have turned our AFL game that "IS" played in every state , before these two plastics came along, except for Tasmania and the Northern Territory.

It has seen the game changed the rules destroyed the free kick count massive the umpiring changing the game and dictating the game, it has seen inconclusive camera technology being used ( no not Pendleburys point/goal I saw the finger too) in so many cases , its seen one umpire pay something for the same thing the next umpire didn't !
If you haven't heard others beside me talk about it, then you are deaf.
The reason , preparation for two inventions one that is a basket case and will need propping up by Gil and his cronies again, the other given huge help as well, and after several short years is playing off in a grand final, are you blind too, where's your club been since 1964 .

Oh , that rubbish messy rugby match was meant to be an AFL Preliminary final. Even if it was pouring rain!
There I love a debate, bet there are a few who do too, but I say what I think, and next week is not feeling very exciting any more!

I remember Sydney premierships and the Lions too, but South and Fitzroy were there also as well as Sydney and Brisbane, What have we got next week, Gils Giant invention, v a real club!
If you can't see the difference , then leave the debate , but don't talk down to me , and I won't to you. Bye.
Times have changed mate. The game is different but I am not going to give myself an aneurism over it.
 

PieLebo87

Hall of Famer
Sep 14, 2005
11,438
8,148
Endeavour Hills
AFL Club
Collingwood
Where are the Pies mafia. Have gone strangely quiet with the exception of the Filth. Where is everyone?
Pretty heart broken tbh.

Oppo supporters generally taking the piss out of the Pies after we lost a Prelim by 4 points, with no real neutral commentary of the actual game, just umpiring/ARC commentary and people sinking the boot in.

You won’t find many Pies fans responding because we CBF at the moment.

Slowly sinking in that despite all the hard work this season, it’s gone down the gurgler in painful fashion, similar to last season.

It’s f*n painful.
 

Ichabod Noodle

Norm Smith Medallist
Sep 13, 2011
8,323
11,430
The Riff
AFL Club
GWS
Other Teams
Raiders, Brumbies
I like the national competition where it is played by traditional football states
I don’t bother reading beyond a sentence or two of your posts because I know what a crock of s#*t you usually post but this quote basically sums you up.

Just pathetic.

Absolutely s#*tful.
 

Tenacious T

Premiership Member 🏆
Jun 6, 2018
1,062
5,656
Melbourne
AFL Club
Richmond
Other Teams
MUFC, MVFC
As much a I hate the Pies, after watching the Presser of both losing coaches Buckley is all class compared to Scott.
Buckley at least had the courtesy to respond to reporters with some respect and answer questions genuinely.
Miserable Scott on the other hand is an absolute disgrace and used the "to emotional to comment" response treating US and reporters with contempt.

I'd be bloody embarrassed and ashamed to be a Cats supporter.
 

Ghost Patrol

All Australian
Sep 17, 2019
707
955
AFL Club
Richmond
As much a I hate the Pies, after watching the Presser of both losing coaches Buckley is all class compared to Scott.
Buckley at least had the courtesy to respond to reporters with some respect and answer questions genuinely.
Miserable Scott on the other hand is an absolute disgrace and used the "to emotional to comment" response treating US and reporters with contempt.

I'd be bloody embarrassed and ashamed to be a Cats supporter.
To be fair, he is a twin. Poor guy doesn't even have his own identity.
 

RAPPA

Norm Smith Medallist
Feb 20, 2008
7,934
14,412
Victoria
AFL Club
Carlton
As much a I hate the Pies, after watching the Presser of both losing coaches Buckley is all class compared to Scott.
Buckley at least had the courtesy to respond to reporters with some respect and answer questions genuinely.
Miserable Scott on the other hand is an absolute disgrace and used the "to emotional to comment" response treating US and reporters with contempt.

I'd be bloody embarrassed and ashamed to be a Cats supporter.
Because he knew he bungled it after half time with poor coaching decisions. Scotty 2 Hotty was too focused on the coveted glory of securing a victory with one or two “brilliant” coaching moves which turned out to be stinkers
 

InNicNatWeTrust

Premium Gold
Aug 25, 2007
4,495
2,465
Not in Fremantle
AFL Club
West Coast
Starting to not mind the Giants as much as I did. That win showed some real backs against the wall grit and determination. Sure they have been given a good run with draft picks and money far better than what we did when we started. But it's a way more successful venture ATM than Gold Coast at least on field. Having said all that Bucks I feel for. If he gets a flag as a coach it will be a great thing. Having seen the Pie army going off in 2010 I am sure that the next set of celebrations will be epic.
 

(Log in to remove this ad.)

Les Malone

All Australian
Suspended
Jul 28, 2019
861
856
AFL Club
GWS
Are GWS really worthy of praise for that performance? Some nice passages of play from them but ultimately that was an epic choke from Collingwood.

Both Buckley and Pendles saying it hurts more than last year... that's because they're ashamed. They know they shat the bed.

I would agree, the real problem was committing the bodies in wet weather footy and of course thinking they just had to turn up.

A % of the blame must lie at Buckleys feet as well, it appears in hindsight that perhaps he was of the same opinion because everything that could go wrong for GWS in the preceding week had gone wrong.

He really needed to tear strips of them at half time, he should have gone psycho.
 

Les Malone

All Australian
Suspended
Jul 28, 2019
861
856
AFL Club
GWS
Nathan Buckley realised and admitted he needed to change his attitude. Not many people can do that because they like to talk themselves up and think their s**t don't stink. Respect to Bucks from a Blues Man.
He says all the right things in a press conference and comes across as being on top of everything, but you know what i don't rate him as a senior coach.

I just don't rate him, he has a serious record of coming second and so does his club.

Probably harsh but he is not a great coach, just average IMO.
 

Macca18

EFC
Jul 6, 2009
4,708
2,643
Victoria
AFL Club
Essendon
Thank you GWS.

The level of smugness in Melbourne after twenty minutes of good footy against Geelong was unbearable... this was after sneaking into the top 4 because their big rival (West Coast) had a massive brain fart in the final game of the year. The debacle and convenience of the Jaidyn Stephenson return from his betting suspension. Also the baiting and arrogance directed at Geelong a couple of weeks back about the final not being played at Kardinia Park.

The line up for Grand Final tickets at the shopping centres before the Prelim even started (saw them all camped out on Friday night), Eddie again taking over the Triple M breakfast show with his pro-Collingwood bullsh*t all week, the sense of entitlement to right the wrongs of last years Grand Final after beating a number of poor to very average sides (Gold Coast, Melbourne, Adelaide & Essendon) leading into the finals.

One day later and you can still hear a pin drop.

Don't really care who wins the GF now.
 

Gavin Excell

Brownlow Medallist
Apr 22, 2007
28,291
30,015
Bentleigh
AFL Club
Geelong
As much a I hate the Pies, after watching the Presser of both losing coaches Buckley is all class compared to Scott.
Buckley at least had the courtesy to respond to reporters with some respect and answer questions genuinely.
Miserable Scott on the other hand is an absolute disgrace and used the "to emotional to comment" response treating US and reporters with contempt.

I'd be bloody embarrassed and ashamed to be a Cats supporter.
Not so much shame or embarrassment but more just so over him with all his master coach BS.

I accept Tigers are a better team than Cats, but the loss to Collingwood in the QF was squarely down to the overthought selection and match day rubbish by the coach.

Im not alone at Geelong wanting change
 

Kangapirate

Club Legend
Nov 27, 2012
1,146
1,176
AFL Club
North Melbourne
I feel like the Pies were shown up as a poor wet weather team, they simply couldn’t pick the ball up for 3 quarters, is it a coincidence they completely smashed the Giants when it completely dried up late? Don’t think so.
 

SBD Gonzalez

Brownlow Medallist
Jul 5, 2012
10,502
12,108
AFL Club
Sydney
Other Teams
Kidding, right?
[QUOTE="Les Malone, post: 62969267, member: 198401]

But i wonder what will happen in WS or more precisely to GWS, will it be ho hum in WS or will this really propel the club to mainstream ?.
Won’t cause a ripple
[/QUOTE]
Dunno about that.

But we’ll know soon enough.
 

kirky

Brownlow Medallist
Dec 29, 2000
11,059
7,862
AFL Club
Adelaide
Plenty. Because Richmond earned two home finals.

Haven’t people been whinging for years about the highest ranked team getting the game?
You don’t get the point I was making, only non-Vic supporters understand it.

So what happened in 2015, 2017?

Go GWS.
 

Demontim275

Club Legend
Sep 13, 2019
1,056
583
AFL Club
Melbourne
You don’t get the point I was making, only non-Vic supporters understand it.

So what happened in 2015, 2017?
No I got the point you were making. You’re saying it’s unfair.

But haven’t people been saying the crows should’ve hosted Richmond in 17?

Richmond earned two home finals, and had basically no home games for an 8 week stretch. What are they meant to do? Play home games away to appease a whinging crows fan?
 

General Giant

Hall of Famer
Apr 12, 2012
32,823
24,731
AFL Club
GWS
If you listen to the commentary, the review actually didn't look at the footage of the touched ball as it was kicked.
They were just looking at the goaline footage.
There is also some comment (not sure if true) that they had different footage than the Ch7 feed which was from a different angle.

What this incident has highlighted is a need to 'review the review'
How far back from the goaline do you take a review?
The goal umpire is the one calling for the review for what has occurred at the goaline to help with his decision - not what has occurred upfield as the ball was kicked, that is under the direct supervision of the field umpire.
What about the other shots on goal that the goal umpire has not called a review on - maybe they are touched as well?
Why don't you review all shots? - obviously because it takes too long.

I'm amused that you argued in your defense of Toby Green about the use of 2 dimensional images in determining whether contact was made.
Yet now you say you can tell by a 2 dimensional image that a ball has been touched (but not someones face by Greene)?
Unless you have a multitude of angles is is difficult to tell if a player has laid a finger on the ball or not as it is being kicked.
Even then it is almost impossible to tell if a player has placed a fingernail on it.

As for the goal.
If you didn't have the review, Maynes goal would have been given and Pendleburys as well.
Pendlebury was unlucky - if the goal umpire didn't ask, the field umpires decision re the kick not being touched would have stood.

Unless you are going to review all shots on goal as they come off the boot the review should really be limited only to the decisions of the goaline umpire who is asking for the clarification. He is not asking for a clarification of the field umpires decision as to whether or not the ball was touched in play.

I mean how far do you take it?
Why not have reviews on marks in the goalsquare - was the kick touched off the boot?
Why not review a step further - say a dubious handpass in play that leads to a winning goal...
Still struggling I see. Have a beer it's after midday.
 

Top Bottom