Game Day Collingwood v GWS Giants - Preliminary Finals — Sat 21 Sep, 4:35PM AEST, MCG

Who will Win?

  • Collingwood by 30+ pts

    Votes: 35 27.1%
  • Collingwood 10-30

    Votes: 48 37.2%
  • Collingwood by <10

    Votes: 9 7.0%
  • GWS Giants by <10

    Votes: 12 9.3%
  • GWS Giants by 10-30

    Votes: 14 10.9%
  • GWS Giants by 30+

    Votes: 11 8.5%

  • Total voters
    129
  • Poll closed .

Crankyhawk

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You are a rude little person. But being rude doesn't make you understand a point that I've made dozens of times over some years !

I like the national competition where it is played by traditional football states, we didn't need two new teams in NSW and QLD.
How many times do you need to be told, has got me .

Of course everyone has to start somewhere, but GWS and GC17 WEREN'T STARTED , THEY WE CREATED MANUFACTURED GIVEN FAVOUR AFTER FAVOUR AND WERE INVENTED FOR MONEY. Grow some common sense and see where I am coming from.

Demetriou and the then Gil boy apprentice, wanted Footscray and North Melbourne to re locate, they wouldn't.
The people who followed them fought like frigging hell to stay alive in their hometown, if they had have caved in and gone where they were asked , they would have brought a culture with them like South and Fitzroy did, and money and a backing from the AFL the common people/fans/followers/members put their own money in too

!And hear this!
THERE'D BE ONLY 16 TEAMS IN THE LEAGUE. Get it????????? The game wouldn't have had to be fiddled with , because we would have had a smaller player pool and would need about 100 players LESS of elite NEW boys to deal with .
To give better standard to the game! WE ALREADY HAVE TEAMS IN NSW AND QLD ,and well well well they are successful . yes?

Admittedly helped a little too, BUT NOT LIKE THE MILLION DOLLAR PLASTICS NOW.


The players are not my target, except for the rat Greene, the team is not my target, its the rotten manipulative system that makes me angry, I am not a VFL follower , I look at Box Hill sometimes to see how Hawthorn players are running, I haven't seen a game at Whitehorse and Middleborough road ground for decades , that was VFA and probably second division, I've followed WEST PERTH AND SWAN DISTRICTS IN THIS STATE , BUT MY HOME IN MELBOURNE ONCE UPON A TIME YOU COULD WATCH FOOTY AND ENJOY IT, YESTERDAY WAS A ROTTEN LOOKING RUGBY STYLED GAME , BECAUSE SOME SIDES PLAY THAT LOCK DOWN.
BECAUSE THEY CAN'T WIN IN THE OPEN, SO THEY HAVE STOPPAGES, stoppages ????? Rugby!
THE GAME NOW IS FULL OF STOPPAGES, ITS NOW A TACTIC NOW!,

Well MORE things have changed and when umpires dictate matches , talk patronisingly to players and make mistakes by the ton, and when bloody Gerard Healy talks on TV about... " pay more frees"... I nearly fall off the couch. Stop start, and pack football.

Looking like something out of the 60's on a mud packed surface??? Not on the beautiful surfaces like now days, but these bloke have to play with their capabilities on the ground , because out of all of them ,
OUT OF ALL OF THEM! A GREAT MANY CAN'T HANDLE THE BLEEDING PILL! You know what too, those old timers at that level weren't bad in the bog pile of mud in those day

TV rights were the whole reason , why the hell do you think that the AFL sends teams to China, to promote and make business deals and invent ways to MAKE MORE MONEY.

In doing so they have turned our AFL game that "IS" played in every state , before these two plastics came along, except for Tasmania and the Northern Territory.

It has seen the game changed the rules destroyed the free kick count massive the umpiring changing the game and dictating the game, it has seen inconclusive camera technology being used ( no not Pendleburys point/goal I saw the finger too) in so many cases , its seen one umpire pay something for the same thing the next umpire didn't !
If you haven't heard others beside me talk about it, then you are deaf.
The reason , preparation for two inventions one that is a basket case and will need propping up by Gil and his cronies again, the other given huge help as well, and after several short years is playing off in a grand final, are you blind too, where's your club been since 1964 .

Oh , that rubbish messy rugby match was meant to be an AFL Preliminary final. Even if it was pouring rain!
There I love a debate, bet there are a few who do too, but I say what I think, and next week is not feeling very exciting any more!

I remember Sydney premierships and the Lions too, but South and Fitzroy were there also as well as Sydney and Brisbane, What have we got next week, Gils Giant invention, v a real club!
If you can't see the difference , then leave the debate , but don't talk down to me , and I won't to you. Bye.
Last sentence is funny/ ironic you seem to often talk down to everyone.
 

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Sonny Bonds

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Thank you GWS.

The level of smugness in Melbourne after twenty minutes of good footy against Geelong was unbearable... this was after sneaking into the top 4 because their big rival (West Coast) had a massive brain fart in the final game of the year. The debacle and convenience of the Jaidyn Stephenson return from his betting suspension. Also the baiting and arrogance directed at Geelong a couple of weeks back about the final not being played at Kardinia Park.

The line up for Grand Final tickets at the shopping centres before the Prelim even started (saw them all camped out on Friday night), Eddie again taking over the Triple M breakfast show with his pro-Collingwood bullsh*t all week, the sense of entitlement to right the wrongs of last years Grand Final after beating a number of poor to very average sides (Gold Coast, Melbourne, Adelaide & Essendon) leading into the finals.

One day later and you can still hear a pin drop.

Don't really care who wins the GF now.
Was talking about this at work last week. I love how he's passionate about the pies, but it gets a little tiresome. Maybe time to retire in a few roles. Collingwood mates are now saying he's giving them the shits.
 

Blueboys11

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I feel like the Pies were shown up as a poor wet weather team, they simply couldn’t pick the ball up for 3 quarters, is it a coincidence they completely smashed the Giants when it completely dried up late? Don’t think so.
Coincidence

It’s been the way this whole finals series that the teams behind bombard the opposition, who just seem to want to hang on and forget to score. Saw it in the Pies v Cats final.

Even saw it last week with the Giants v lions. Lions make all the running and get in front. Suddenly GWS get on the front foot again get a few inside 50’s and score themselves.

More a mentality thing than anything
 

SBD Gonzalez

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Kidding, right?
Are GWS really worthy of praise for that performance? Some nice passages of play from them but ultimately that was an epic choke from Collingwood.

Both Buckley and Pendles saying it hurts more than last year... that's because they're ashamed. They know they shat the bed.
See the post above yours.
 

Sweeetleftfoot

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After re watching the game I was too harsh on Buckley.

Who is the midfield and stoppages coach though? Lack of synergy between Grundy and his midfield is a disgrace
This and only this, amazing how we have the supposed most dominate ruck but our mids are so flat footed,
Have been saying for a while our midfield coach needs to be sacked
 

WillieNillie

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Mar 31, 2018
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This and only this, amazing how we have the supposed most dominate ruck but our mids are so flat footed,
Have been saying for a while our midfield coach needs to be sacked
Its even worse then that. Grundy hit it to Kelly with no Pie in boo of him atleast 3 times in the centre. He was clean hitting in the exact opposite direction of his teammates. Do not know how that can happen at this level

Its almost like the only time they rove off Grundy is during a game and they never do this at training for example
 

Andre the Giant

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Feb 20, 2012
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Dylan Shiel thinking wtf did I do
Dylan is one bloke I still have enormous respect for. Yes he left but he re-signed several times for less money and absolutely agonised before going.

He was a pioneer and made a significant contribution to the club via his professionalism in setting the highest standards.

As a player we miss his burst acceleration in clearances although Zac Williams May be our answer for that. He was always an average kick and that unfortunately will stop him from being an A grader but he is still a very good player that we wish well.

Treloar and Adams on the other hand left in different circumstances and I am delighted we destroyed their dreams. Hope it continues throughout their careers too.
 

What else we can do

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He says all the right things in a press conference and comes across as being on top of everything, but you know what i don't rate him as a senior coach.

I just don't rate him, he has a serious record of coming second and so does his club.

Probably harsh but he is not a great coach, just average IMO.
I think it is a bit harsh he was gone a couple of years ago. Buckley turned himself and Collingwood around and were a kick away from winning last year. The Magpies also beat the best team over the last 3 years Richmond convincingly in the prelim last year.
 

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Bazzar

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This and only this, amazing how we have the supposed most dominate ruck but our mids are so flat footed,
Have been saying for a while our midfield coach needs to be sacked
Grundy dominated the hitouts 78-16 and 14-5 to advantage, the Giants won clearances 54-35 and outscored the Magpies 29-8 from those clearances.

Thats a damning stat for your mid coach.
 

nut

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We still are - still more supporters - not necessarily members.
Richmond have come back bigtime due to their success -wait until the next rebuild/drought.
Are we waiting for the pies to come back big time?
Only 74k to a prelim is a very poor crowd. We got 94k to a GWS prelim.
It’s a myth you are the biggest club..
We smash membership records (don’t make up numbers like your club does)
We smash crowd numbers... (first club to get a million through the gate)...

Name anything your club is bigger at...
 

PieLebo87

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Are we waiting for the pies to come back big time?
Only 74k to a prelim is a very poor crowd. We got 94k to a GWS prelim.
It’s a myth you are the biggest club..
We smash membership records (don’t make up numbers like your club does)
We smash crowd numbers... (first club to get a million through the gate)...

Name anything your club is bigger at...
You’d need to consider that Prelim was your first in almost 20 years. Yesterday was our 9th in that period of time. The tiger faithful was going to turn out in massive numbers for it no matter what.

EDIT: Our ‘02 Prelim vs Adelaide (first since 1990) got just under 89,000, which was under 3,000 less than the actual Grand Final that year. MCG was at a reduced capacity FYI
 
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BACCS

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Amazing a team with so much silver spoon talent even with a few stars missing could just get it done.

People heap s**t on Chris Scott, Cameron is equally if not a worse coach.

I scoffed at another poster but Tigers by 120+ next week.
Their best player was Zac Williams who was taken in the rookie draft
 

Gavin Excell

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Are we waiting for the pies to come back big time?
Only 74k to a prelim is a very poor crowd. We got 94k to a GWS prelim.
It’s a myth you are the biggest club..
We smash membership records (don’t make up numbers like your club does)
We smash crowd numbers... (first club to get a million through the gate)...

Name anything your club is bigger at...
Pies have more flags
 

Bazzar

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Are we waiting for the pies to come back big time?
Only 74k to a prelim is a very poor crowd. We got 94k to a GWS prelim.
It’s a myth you are the biggest club..
We smash membership records (don’t make up numbers like your club does)
We smash crowd numbers... (first club to get a million through the gate)...

Name anything your club is bigger at...
Pies only got an extra 880 against the Giants in Preliminary Final than the Tiges did in their r23 H&A game against the Lions.
 

What else we can do

Team Captain
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Are we waiting for the pies to come back big time?
Only 74k to a prelim is a very poor crowd. We got 94k to a GWS prelim.
It’s a myth you are the biggest club..
We smash membership records (don’t make up numbers like your club does)
We smash crowd numbers... (first club to get a million through the gate)...

Name anything your club is bigger at...
 

Toump Ass

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See the post above yours.
Collingwood haven't travelled this series and scored a week's break after winning a qualifying final gifted at their home ground- same ground as the prelim, where GWS don't play on regularly and aren't great on when they do.

Their opposition spends the week facing intense media attention over a contentious suspension, are travelling interstate for the second week in a row after an intense semi-final, and has half their squad unavailable.

Yet Collingwood still managed to find a way to piss it up the wall.

That's an absolutely massive choke.
 

LoungeLizard

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Collingwood haven't travelled this series and scored a week's break after winning a qualifying final gifted at their home ground- same ground as the prelim, where GWS don't play on regularly and aren't great on when they do.

Their opposition spends the week facing intense media attention over a contentious suspension, are travelling interstate for the second week in a row after an intense semi-final, and has half their squad unavailable.

Yet Collingwood still managed to find a way to piss it up the wall.

That's an absolutely massive choke.
Yeah you're probably right, but i think i would rather our choke in a prelim, than choking all year like Melbourne did.
 

VicBased

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Yep.
But if you look at it realistically there are too many teams in Victoria.
WA or SA may be able to cater for a 3rd team, there should be a team in Tassie and the Gold Coast is a failed experiment that aint gonna work.
You'll never be able to cut or merge the 3 or 4 teams from Victoria though. No-one would allow it.
The talent pool is becoming too thin because of the number of clubs.
The draw is inequitable etc etc.
i think eventually the AFL will withdraw support for the poorer teams so they will have to merge to survive. Then teams in the Tassie and N.T states can be implemented.
 

SBD Gonzalez

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Kidding, right?
Collingwood haven't travelled this series and scored a week's break after winning a qualifying final gifted at their home ground- same ground as the prelim, where GWS don't play on regularly and aren't great on when they do.

Their opposition spends the week facing intense media attention over a contentious suspension, are travelling interstate for the second week in a row after an intense semi-final, and has half their squad unavailable.

Yet Collingwood still managed to find a way to piss it up the wall.

That's an absolutely massive choke.
Anything can happen on the day. Specially in those conditions.

I know you want to piss on Collingwood, and I do hate Eddie McGuire, but sorry, there was no guarantee they were going to win, so no, I can't agree it's a choke.

Otherwise why do we have tipping contests?
 

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