Collingwood's Draft Chances

[zorbadunde]

Hello guys

Ive been looking at the phantom drafts and have decided to put down a list of kids people are thinking we will get at 30 and beyond.

Who do you think is most likely to be there at 30 and are we really that interested in this kid thomas?

List of potential picks


PICK 30. Collingwood - Roland Ah Chee, i think Collingwood will look to bolster their midfield depth here and i think Roland will fill into a very nice midfield prospect. Will be very handy around goals early in his career and could have an immediate impact on the pies '10 campaign.




30 - Jordan Gysberts (Collingwood)
AIS graduate, and will add some talent into the Collingwood midfield. I originally thought it wasn't the best time for Collingwood to enter the draft here, but by attaining Gysberts they're not doing too bad.

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#30 (Collingwood) – Josh Thomas (QLD)
Height: 178cm, Weight: 70kg, DOB: 01/10/91
Recruited from: Broadbeach[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Player comparison: Dayne Beams[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Likely destinations: Collingwood (30), Brisbane (27), North Melbourne (37), Hawthorn (39), North Melbourne (41), Brisbane (47).[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Why: Can see this happening and very much hope it does in the absence of Ball or Taylor at this pick. Inside mid who is a good user of the footy.

[/FONT]30. Collingwood – Ben Griffiths – Collingwood would have no hesitation in calling out Griffiths’ name on draft day as they would not have expected him to slide this much. His injuries are the reason behind this, but if he can overcome these issues, he will be a steal. I have doubts on whether he will be able to achieve this. Selection for need and if he stays injury free he would fit in nicely with Cloke and Anthony once he gets a bit of size about him. He will probably be gone by this selection come draft day.

Others considered here: Carey would have been a good fit at the pies but with Griffiths still there the decision was made easy.


#30 Collingwood - Josh Thomas
After Beams last year, this just seems like the right pick to me. But Thomas is actually deserving a top 30 selection, so it's not just the Queensland/Gold Coast factor. Thomas is a very promising midfielder, and wins plenty of contested ball. I haven't seen a lot of him, but by all reports he is one of the better players to come out of Queensland in recent years.


#60 Collingwood - Ayden Kennedy
I think Kennedy could go in the third round at some stage, but could also slide to the rookie draft. I think Collingwood will look towards a forward at the back end of the draft, but there aren't a lot of options. Kennedy is more a lead up forward, but he is a good kick on goal and is athletically pretty good. He is a bit like John Anthony, but I think they could work well together and will be hard to mathch up on.


#66 Collingwood - Nicholas Winmar
Winmar is a medium/tall forward who could also be one to go a lot higher than this. He is strong athletically, and his good both on the ground and above his head. He will need time to develop, and to work on his endurance in particular. But I can see him developing into a more than handy half forward who can push up to the wing. Winmar could prove to be a big steal this late in the draft.


# 30 – Collingwood
Alex Carey / Glenelg / 181cm / 79kg

# 62 – Collingwood
Serhat Temel / Calder Cannons / 194cm / 89kg

# 78 – Collingwood
Claye Beams / Labrador / 182cm / 78kg or Daniel Harris / North Melbourne

PICK 30 – COLLINGWOOD

NAT FYFE (CLAREMONT)

Smarting over their failure to snare Ball (they probably will, but let’s move on), the Pies instead shift their gaze to a different player altogether and trust that Beams and Sidebottom come on again next year and assist in terms of the midfield clearances, at which they suck when up against the better teams.

He kicked 8 and took 15 marks in an August game and has some serious x-factor about him, with his work ethic variable but solid. A third tall, he won’t solve the Pies issues up forward himself, but he’ll be very very handy and should get the social club jumping early in his career.


#30 (Collingwood) – Josh Thomas (QLD)
Height: 178cm, Weight: 70kg, DOB: 01/10/91
Recruited from: Broadbeach

Explanation: Talk is he will be at the pies in 2010. Classy mid from same club as Dayne Beams.



So these are the kids people are talking about.

Lets discuss

 

[knightwheelrqr]

Hello guys

Ive been looking at the phantom drafts and have decided to put down a list of kids people are thinking we will get at 30 and beyond.

Who do you think is most likely to be there at 30 and are we really that interested in this kid thomas?

List of potential picks


PICK 30. Collingwood - Roland Ah Chee, i think Collingwood will look to bolster their midfield depth here and i think Roland will fill into a very nice midfield prospect. Will be very handy around goals early in his career and could have an immediate impact on the pies '10 campaign.




30 - Jordan Gysberts (Collingwood)
AIS graduate, and will add some talent into the Collingwood midfield. I originally thought it wasn't the best time for Collingwood to enter the draft here, but by attaining Gysberts they're not doing too bad.

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#30 (Collingwood) – Josh Thomas (QLD)
Height: 178cm, Weight: 70kg, DOB: 01/10/91
Recruited from: Broadbeach[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Player comparison: Dayne Beams[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Likely destinations: Collingwood (30), Brisbane (27), North Melbourne (37), Hawthorn (39), North Melbourne (41), Brisbane (47).[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Why: Can see this happening and very much hope it does in the absence of Ball or Taylor at this pick. Inside mid who is a good user of the footy.

[/FONT]30. Collingwood – Ben Griffiths – Collingwood would have no hesitation in calling out Griffiths’ name on draft day as they would not have expected him to slide this much. His injuries are the reason behind this, but if he can overcome these issues, he will be a steal. I have doubts on whether he will be able to achieve this. Selection for need and if he stays injury free he would fit in nicely with Cloke and Anthony once he gets a bit of size about him. He will probably be gone by this selection come draft day.

Others considered here: Carey would have been a good fit at the pies but with Griffiths still there the decision was made easy.


#30 Collingwood - Josh Thomas
After Beams last year, this just seems like the right pick to me. But Thomas is actually deserving a top 30 selection, so it's not just the Queensland/Gold Coast factor. Thomas is a very promising midfielder, and wins plenty of contested ball. I haven't seen a lot of him, but by all reports he is one of the better players to come out of Queensland in recent years.


#60 Collingwood - Ayden Kennedy
I think Kennedy could go in the third round at some stage, but could also slide to the rookie draft. I think Collingwood will look towards a forward at the back end of the draft, but there aren't a lot of options. Kennedy is more a lead up forward, but he is a good kick on goal and is athletically pretty good. He is a bit like John Anthony, but I think they could work well together and will be hard to mathch up on.


#66 Collingwood - Nicholas Winmar
Winmar is a medium/tall forward who could also be one to go a lot higher than this. He is strong athletically, and his good both on the ground and above his head. He will need time to develop, and to work on his endurance in particular. But I can see him developing into a more than handy half forward who can push up to the wing. Winmar could prove to be a big steal this late in the draft.


# 30 – Collingwood
Alex Carey / Glenelg / 181cm / 79kg

# 62 – Collingwood
Serhat Temel / Calder Cannons / 194cm / 89kg

# 78 – Collingwood
Claye Beams / Labrador / 182cm / 78kg or Daniel Harris / North Melbourne

PICK 30 – COLLINGWOOD

NAT FYFE (CLAREMONT)

Smarting over their failure to snare Ball (they probably will, but let’s move on), the Pies instead shift their gaze to a different player altogether and trust that Beams and Sidebottom come on again next year and assist in terms of the midfield clearances, at which they suck when up against the better teams.

He kicked 8 and took 15 marks in an August game and has some serious x-factor about him, with his work ethic variable but solid. A third tall, he won’t solve the Pies issues up forward himself, but he’ll be very very handy and should get the social club jumping early in his career.


#30 (Collingwood) – Josh Thomas (QLD)
Height: 178cm, Weight: 70kg, DOB: 01/10/91
Recruited from: Broadbeach

Explanation: Talk is he will be at the pies in 2010. Classy mid from same club as Dayne Beams.



So these are the kids people are talking about.

Lets discuss

Gysberts is a top 25 pick in this draft. Can't see him falling any further... If he is still available at pick 30 will be snapped up though.

Griffiths same as Gysberts in that he will not last beyond pick 25. Big guy, ready made, 198cm 99kg. Big kick, instant replacement for Chris Bryan.

That said I would go Thomas over both Griffiths and Gysberts, just not so sure the club will.

Pick 30 is far too high for Roland Ah Chee.

Alex Carey I see as being possibly available at pick 62.

... We don't possess picks 60 or 66... But not that high on Winmar or Kennedy personally.

Temel I would be more interested in at 78 rather than 62.

Beams should be available in the rookie draft.

Nat Fyfe at 30, not a bad choice, worth considering, personally again perfer Josh Thomas.


My views on the picks:

(order according to preference)

Pick 30: Luke Ball, Troy Taylor, Jack Fitzpatrick, Matthew Panos, Josh Thomas.

Pick 62: Matthew Panos, James Craig, Ryan Harwood, Alex Carey, Andrew Hooper, Joel MacDonald, Myles Sewell, Michael Barlow, Mitch Thorp.

Pick 78: Mitch Thorp, Jamie McNamara, Dan McKenna, Andrew Welsh, Adam McPhee, Sam Power, Daniel Harris, Kane Tenace, Robert Shirley.

Rookie draft: Claye Beams, Shane Page, Liam Patrick.

 

[Invigoration]

How'd we get pick 60 and 66?

I reckon if we draft a kid with 30 we'll go tall. We've taken Sidebottom, Beams, Rounds, McCarthy, Blair and Blight all within two years, we aren't really in desperate need of another mid.
Everyone reckoned we were keen on Butcher which I think might point to our intentions (not Butcher, but tall).

 

[collingwill]

im not going to pretend to know anything about the young fellas in the draft but getting ball would be prime by me, still a possibility too.

 

[Axl the great]

im not going to pretend to know anything about the young fellas in the draft but getting ball would be prime by me, still a possibility too.

Yeah agreed, i would take Ball at 30 but unfortunatly i think that bird has flown, i have a strong feeling should he nominate for the National Melbourne will use pick 18 to get him.
The Dees have strongly sounded out Balls management not because of the pre season draft but because they knew he would likely go in to the national.
Barring getting Ball i would target a player ready to play now and not another 3 to 4 yr developer.

 

[danielnajdek]

Will be interesting to watch which kids slip down and we could pick up. Really starting to warm to Thomas sounds like he could even play next year so he's AFL ready as he plays against men in Queensland. Alot of people have named Taylor but I don't think that would be a good choice. Really like Carey he looks good not sure he would slip to 62 but if he did I would be stoked Also I'm not sure we could get Claye in the rookie draft haven't Gold Coast got some choices in that?

 

[TradeDraft]

I think we are that Intrested in Thomas as I have heard he has been training at the Lexus Center

 

[dima17]

Gysberts is a top 25 pick in this draft. Can't see him falling any further... If he is still available at pick 30 will be snapped up though.

Griffiths same as Gysberts in that he will not last beyond pick 25. Big guy, ready made, 198cm 99kg. Big kick, instant replacement for Chris Bryan.

That said I would go Thomas over both Griffiths and Gysberts, just not so sure the club will.

Pick 30 is far too high for Roland Ah Chee.

Alex Carey I see as being possibly available at pick 62.

... We don't possess picks 60 or 66... But not that high on Winmar or Kennedy personally.

Temel I would be more interested in at 78 rather than 62.

Beams should be available in the rookie draft.

Nat Fyfe at 30, not a bad choice, worth considering, personally again perfer Josh Thomas.


My views on the picks:

(order according to preference)

Pick 30: Luke Ball, Troy Taylor, Jack Fitzpatrick, Matthew Panos, Josh Thomas.

Pick 62: Matthew Panos, James Craig, Ryan Harwood, Alex Carey, Andrew Hooper, Joel MacDonald, Myles Sewell, Michael Barlow, Mitch Thorp.

Pick 78: Mitch Thorp, Jamie McNamara, Dan McKenna, Andrew Welsh, Adam McPhee, Sam Power, Daniel Harris, Kane Tenace, Robert Shirley.

Rookie draft: Claye Beams, Shane Page, Liam Patrick.

spot on with this analysis. i agree with the ordering and everything.

thomas is growing on me and i would be happy if we got him. my preference is gysberts. doubt he will be availiable, but if he is be sure that we will get him. he worked closely with bucks in the AIS and he is a collingwood supporter. will be a good player. having said that i think thomas will be good too.