Opinion Commentary & Media III

[Zondor]

I'm surprised that Caro never had a starring role in Gossop Girls. :stern look

 

[Mr. Blonde]

Luke Beveridge goes Whack on Damien Barrett and his Sliding Doors column over Damo making light of Tom Boyd’s battle with mental health.

http://m.afl.com.au/news/2018-07-17/bevo-slams-disgraceful-sliding-doors-column

 

[Gasometer]

Luke Beveridge goes Whack on Damien Barrett and his Sliding Doors column over Damo making light of Tom Boyd’s battle with mental health.

http://m.afl.com.au/news/2018-07-17/bevo-slams-disgraceful-sliding-doors-column

If you are going to write a clever column you need to be clever

 

[Dirty_11]

Apparently Collingwood have officially removed themselves from all pokies revenue from October. Eddie selling it on MMM this morning. Again we lead the way for the comp. Nek minnit Collingwood praised for leading the way.

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[JD-Roo]

Apparently Collingwood have officially removed themselves from all pokies revenue from October. Eddie selling it on MMM this morning. Again we lead the way for the comp. Nek minnit Collingwood praised for leading the way.

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Collingwood will TRY to say they lead they way with it.

In 20 years time when all football clubs have finally eradicated them, everyone will KNOW that Sheedy invented walking away from pokies.

 

[Royal Flush]

In some ways it's true as they are sacrificing millions in profit.
I think from memory it was costing us a financial loss.

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[ferball]

I'm not as hard on footy journos as some - they are, after all, just doing their job - but considering how hard they are on others for the slightest indiscretion, jeez some of them are frightfully precious.

This,

in spades.

 

[ferball]

Luke Beveridge goes Whack on Damien Barrett and his Sliding Doors column over Damo making light of Tom Boyd’s battle with mental health.

http://m.afl.com.au/news/2018-07-17/bevo-slams-disgraceful-sliding-doors-column

Bevo is assuming that. Who is to say Barret wasn't referring to him being dropped cos he is not playing well enough and having a go at the Dogs for not saying as much?

 

[Harris 10]

Bevo is assuming that. Who is to say Barret wasn't referring to him being dropped cos he is not playing well enough and having a go at the Dogs for not saying as much?

Beveridge is the one that comes out of this looking like an idiot.

 

[archereleven]

Does Barrett write sliding doors with 3 other journos pr does he think his column is it's own entity?

'We said if blah blah, then we think it's only fair if blah blah....'

Makes me sick.

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[Orange Peanut]

Beveridge is the one that comes out of this looking like an idiot.

Damo can be a twat, but there is no way he’d use mental illness against anyone. He and Bevo hate each other and neither of them do themselves any favour.

 

[LB2Snake]

Beveridge is the one that comes out of this looking like an idiot.

I find him the biggest tool of all the coaches.....I reckon he'd be the most average bloke, so far up himself.
Can't stand him. And because he won a flag he's treated like some sort of idiot sevant.

 

[Gasometer]

Don't mind Bev; says it as it is which is refreshing.

Good on him for giving the whack back.

 

[FlyHigh18]

I liked Bevo until i read about his reply, what a knob.
No one likes Barrett but it takes a really long bow to try and make that connection to someone's mental illness.

 

[Caracas]

Barrett is an annoyance at the best of times. However, Bevo is the only person letting themselves down in this instance.


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[SpiderBurton22]

 

[Orange Peanut]

Cross-posted from History Thread:

New podcast series from Adam Collins, Daniel Brettig and Shannon Gill on the 1993 AFL season, called The Greatest Season That Was: 93.

The first episode is about NMFC: https://omny.fm/shows/the-greatest-season-that-was-93/episode-2-north-melbourne

I moved to Melbourne in 93, got my first full time job and place on my own. The timing couldn’t possibly have been better.

What a great idea for a podcast. And so far, well and truly nailing it.

 

[sutcliffe's hotel]

I moved to Melbourne in 93, got my first full time job and place on my own. The timing couldn’t possibly have been better.

What a great idea for a podcast. And so far, well and truly nailing it.

Funnily enough my last year living in Melbourne. My highlight is that glorious Saturday afternoon at Victoria Park. We thrashed the local and the outer roared and chanted North Melbourne like never before.

 

[Gasometer]

Funnily enough my last year living in Melbourne. My highlight is that glorious Saturday afternoon at Victoria Park. We thrashed the local and the outer roared and chanted North Melbourne like never before.

“Pretenders no more!” screamed the Sunday Age

 

[naturally north]

Naitanui is the biggest star in WA footy.

Naitanui career avg- 12 disposals, 1.9 marks, 24 hitouts, 3.6 tackles, 0.6 goals.

Daw career avg- 8.5 disposals, 3.2 marks, 8 hitouts, 2.9 tackles,0.8 goals.

Please not having ago at you but thought this was a worthy of pointing out.... ones a *en "superstar" and the other should be delisted. The world as they say works in mysterious ways.

 

[Hearts to hearts]

Naitanui career avg- 12 disposals, 1.9 marks, 24 hitouts, 3.6 tackles, 0.6 goals.

Daw career avg- 8.5 disposals, 3.2 marks, 8 hitouts, 2.9 tackles,0.8 goals.

Please not having ago at you but thought this was a worthy of pointing out.... ones a ****en "superstar" and the other should be delisted. The world as they say works in mysterious ways.

What's that thing Brad quotes about the good is never as good and the bad is never as bad as people say?

 

[naturally north]

What's that thing Brad quotes about the good is never as good and the bad is never as bad as people say?

Dunno but I'm cranky with you cause at some stage or some thread you posted about how we're travelling and you stated you'd get back to Maj further into the post, it was one bloody line.

Was excited, I skipped the intro and headed straight for you Daw thoughts and yeah lacked depth I feel Eight bloody years I've been bangin on about Maj and you lot that are slow to the dance floor aint gettin to bust some moves with the Majak crew

To answer your post no clue , but yeah I reckon you're prolly correct. But the irony isn't lost on me regarding the esteem that Nic Nac is held in.

 

[giantroo]

Coaching great Mick Malthouse looks at which players could retire at the end of the season
MICK MALTHOUSE, Herald Sun
July 19, 2018 2:42pm
Subscriber only

RETIREMENT announcements are sobering events.

Whether it’s a teammate or an opponent calling it a day, it defines every footballer’s mortality and sets the clock ticking on his own career.

So far this year five players have retired effective immediately — Hawthorn superstar Cyril Rioli,Richmond’s Shaun Hampson, Western Bulldog Clay Smith, Sydney’s Kurt Tippett and Tiger Ben Griffiths, who took up a college scholarship as an American football punter.

The average age of these players is just 28. Tippett is the oldest at 31.

It’s too young to be ending a career and making decisions about the rest of your life, but it’s an unfortunate reality of elite sport.

I struggled with retiring both as a player and a coach, and I’ve had a countless number of players in tears in my office when their time came, too.

Football is life when you are in the depths of it, so it can feel like death when it has to end.

Sometimes, though, time belies you.

Shaun Burgoyne, just shy of 36, is in terrific form.

Aside from a hamstring injury, he is still a skilful multi-positional player of high value for Hawthorn.

He plays because he loves the game, not for records, but by playing on he will break several.

He should play on, and the Hawks, in a transitional stage, need him to.

Two other “elder” statesmen at Hawthorn, Jarryd Roughead and Isaac Smith are also in red hot form and should continue.

One of the most significant players in the competition this season is North Melbourne’s Scott Thompson, 32.

He has been fundamental in North’s rise, and hasn’t missed a beat all year.

It was a great contest between him and Lance Franklin on Sunday afternoon.

No one can be a pest like Thompson and the Sydney forward regularly retaliates to his taunts.

Thompson’s teammate, Shaun Higgins, 30, is another in outstanding form.

He could be (and should be) challenging for the Brownlow this year, such has been his impact.

Shaun Higgins is having a brilliant season for the Kangaroos. Picture: Getty Images
Todd Goldstein, after a disappointing 2017, has turned his form around and is playing like a footballer with many years left in him.

Unlike some others.

Jarrad Waite, Grant Birchall, Daniel Wells, Aaron Sandilands, Liam Picken and Matthew Suckling are all fine players, brilliant players at times, but they have all missed large chunks of recent seasons due to injury, and you have to wonder if their bodies can take any more, or even enough to justify another contract.

It’s a disliked question, but one that has to be asked by the club and the player himself.

North Melbourne is a better team with Waite on the park, and Ben Brown is a better player alongside him.

But he has been haunted by lower-leg issues for a lot of his career and it has interfered with his ability to play out a complete season.

At 35, maybe this is his last incomplete season.

Fremantle, too, is a better team with Sandilands in the middle, but the big man has been prone to big man injuries and managed only 15 games in the past two seasons.

He’s back on the sidelines again, and as the oldest player on the Dockers’ list, this latest injury might be a sign that it’s time to wind things up.

The weekly strain of football takes its toll eventually, until, in some cases, your body almost deserts you.

Geelong has an issue to deal with at season’s end.

While club stalwarts Joel Selwood and Harry Taylor continue to impress, despite putting their bodies through constant punishment, Gary Ablett — the oldest of the three — has up and down form.

He seems to pick and choose how hard he chases and defends when the opposition has the ball, and he has altered the dynamics of the team.

It may well have been a dream combination on paper, with Ablett, Patrick Dangerfield, Selwood and Mitch Duncan in the centre, but I think the reality has become a nightmare for Chris Scott as he constantly tries to balance his midfield.

Geelong is precariously close to sliding out of the eight.

They won three of the four games Ablett missed with injury earlier in the season.




Someone at the club is going to have to make a brave decision about Ablett’s future sooner or later, if not Ablett himself.

It might be a similar situation in Sydney.

The Swans place a high expectation on their superstar forward to kick a handful of goals each and every week, and in most games he does.

But in recent weeks, to witness Lance Franklin berating his teammates for not kicking the ball to him has been an eye opener.

Is it on-ground education on where to put the ball from an experienced forward?

Or has his game become one-dimensional and just about kicking all the goals himself?

It leaves one question in my mind: What does Sydney want from him?

Which would leave one question in Franklin’s mind: Is it still worth it?

He is good enough to continue, but he needs more support, preferably from another tall.

Brendon Goddard is another player sometimes at odds with his teammates.

He is an interesting character, passionately outspoken both on and off the field, and as hungry and mad as any player.

In the game against Collingwood, Michael Hurley castigated him for not doing the team thing and helping him in an aerial contest.

Goddard could have, and should have, provided back-up to his younger teammate.

He is the most senior of a young team that needs to keep moving forward.

He provided invaluable experience and leadership when the Bombers were left with a makeshift list, but perhaps now Goddard has given all that he can give to football.

Demon Bernie Vince, almost 33, is struggling for form, Crow Eddie Betts, 31, hasn’t been the same since Charlie Cameron departed for the Brisbane Lions and West Coast has stumbled since Josh Kennedy, almost 31, was felled by injury once again.

The question of how much value they still bring to their clubs will determine how much longer these men each have left to play.

Luke Hodge’s one-year experiment at the Lions has worked well for both club and player.

His form has been patchy, but his leadership and experience would no doubt have assisted the youngest team in the competition.

Sydney’s Heath Grundy, Carlton’s Kade Simpson, Greater Western Sydney’s Heath Shaw and Bulldog Dale Morris have all won more contests than they’ve lost in the backline this season and are invaluable to their respective teams.

But it’s not always a matter of how good you are playing but how much hunger you have to continue playing.

Not everyone gets it right when it comes to deciding on their future.

Not everyone gets a choice.

But every footballer is applauded at the end of his career for the contribution he made to the game.

The pain is short-lived. The memories last a lifetime.

 

[Rooboys Rool]

Coaching great Mick Malthouse looks at which players could retire at the end of the season
MICK MALTHOUSE, Herald Sun
July 19, 2018 2:42pm
Subscriber only

RETIREMENT announcements are sobering events.

Whether it’s a teammate or an opponent calling it a day, it defines every footballer’s mortality and sets the clock ticking on his own career.

So far this year five players have retired effective immediately — Hawthorn superstar Cyril Rioli,Richmond’s Shaun Hampson, Western Bulldog Clay Smith, Sydney’s Kurt Tippett and Tiger Ben Griffiths, who took up a college scholarship as an American football punter.

The average age of these players is just 28. Tippett is the oldest at 31.

It’s too young to be ending a career and making decisions about the rest of your life, but it’s an unfortunate reality of elite sport.

I struggled with retiring both as a player and a coach, and I’ve had a countless number of players in tears in my office when their time came, too.

Football is life when you are in the depths of it, so it can feel like death when it has to end.

Sometimes, though, time belies you.

Shaun Burgoyne, just shy of 36, is in terrific form.

Aside from a hamstring injury, he is still a skilful multi-positional player of high value for Hawthorn.

He plays because he loves the game, not for records, but by playing on he will break several.

He should play on, and the Hawks, in a transitional stage, need him to.

Two other “elder” statesmen at Hawthorn, Jarryd Roughead and Isaac Smith are also in red hot form and should continue.

One of the most significant players in the competition this season is North Melbourne’s Scott Thompson, 32.

He has been fundamental in North’s rise, and hasn’t missed a beat all year.

It was a great contest between him and Lance Franklin on Sunday afternoon.

No one can be a pest like Thompson and the Sydney forward regularly retaliates to his taunts.

Thompson’s teammate, Shaun Higgins, 30, is another in outstanding form.

He could be (and should be) challenging for the Brownlow this year, such has been his impact.

Shaun Higgins is having a brilliant season for the Kangaroos. Picture: Getty Images
Todd Goldstein, after a disappointing 2017, has turned his form around and is playing like a footballer with many years left in him.

Unlike some others.

Jarrad Waite, Grant Birchall, Daniel Wells, Aaron Sandilands, Liam Picken and Matthew Suckling are all fine players, brilliant players at times, but they have all missed large chunks of recent seasons due to injury, and you have to wonder if their bodies can take any more, or even enough to justify another contract.

It’s a disliked question, but one that has to be asked by the club and the player himself.

North Melbourne is a better team with Waite on the park, and Ben Brown is a better player alongside him.

But he has been haunted by lower-leg issues for a lot of his career and it has interfered with his ability to play out a complete season.

At 35, maybe this is his last incomplete season.

Fremantle, too, is a better team with Sandilands in the middle, but the big man has been prone to big man injuries and managed only 15 games in the past two seasons.

He’s back on the sidelines again, and as the oldest player on the Dockers’ list, this latest injury might be a sign that it’s time to wind things up.

The weekly strain of football takes its toll eventually, until, in some cases, your body almost deserts you.

Geelong has an issue to deal with at season’s end.

While club stalwarts Joel Selwood and Harry Taylor continue to impress, despite putting their bodies through constant punishment, Gary Ablett — the oldest of the three — has up and down form.

He seems to pick and choose how hard he chases and defends when the opposition has the ball, and he has altered the dynamics of the team.

It may well have been a dream combination on paper, with Ablett, Patrick Dangerfield, Selwood and Mitch Duncan in the centre, but I think the reality has become a nightmare for Chris Scott as he constantly tries to balance his midfield.

Geelong is precariously close to sliding out of the eight.

They won three of the four games Ablett missed with injury earlier in the season.




Someone at the club is going to have to make a brave decision about Ablett’s future sooner or later, if not Ablett himself.

It might be a similar situation in Sydney.

The Swans place a high expectation on their superstar forward to kick a handful of goals each and every week, and in most games he does.

But in recent weeks, to witness Lance Franklin berating his teammates for not kicking the ball to him has been an eye opener.

Is it on-ground education on where to put the ball from an experienced forward?

Or has his game become one-dimensional and just about kicking all the goals himself?

It leaves one question in my mind: What does Sydney want from him?

Which would leave one question in Franklin’s mind: Is it still worth it?

He is good enough to continue, but he needs more support, preferably from another tall.

Brendon Goddard is another player sometimes at odds with his teammates.

He is an interesting character, passionately outspoken both on and off the field, and as hungry and mad as any player.

In the game against Collingwood, Michael Hurley castigated him for not doing the team thing and helping him in an aerial contest.

Goddard could have, and should have, provided back-up to his younger teammate.

He is the most senior of a young team that needs to keep moving forward.

He provided invaluable experience and leadership when the Bombers were left with a makeshift list, but perhaps now Goddard has given all that he can give to football.

Demon Bernie Vince, almost 33, is struggling for form, Crow Eddie Betts, 31, hasn’t been the same since Charlie Cameron departed for the Brisbane Lions and West Coast has stumbled since Josh Kennedy, almost 31, was felled by injury once again.

The question of how much value they still bring to their clubs will determine how much longer these men each have left to play.

Luke Hodge’s one-year experiment at the Lions has worked well for both club and player.

His form has been patchy, but his leadership and experience would no doubt have assisted the youngest team in the competition.

Sydney’s Heath Grundy, Carlton’s Kade Simpson, Greater Western Sydney’s Heath Shaw and Bulldog Dale Morris have all won more contests than they’ve lost in the backline this season and are invaluable to their respective teams.

But it’s not always a matter of how good you are playing but how much hunger you have to continue playing.

Not everyone gets it right when it comes to deciding on their future.

Not everyone gets a choice.

But every footballer is applauded at the end of his career for the contribution he made to the game.

The pain is short-lived. The memories last a lifetime.

Wonder if Mick came up with that headline himself...

 

[Royal Flush]

What's all this talk around the anti congestion rules about to be introduced.
Personally I don't think the game is in a bad state?
I preferred our game against Sydney more then the game against Essendon.
Do the media speak for all of us?
Apparently fans hate the game Atm?
The only game i can think of that has zones is netball.

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