Actually, didn't they go back to back? 2016 VFL... 2017 AFL.Their 2017 GF win was a thing of beauty.
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Actually, didn't they go back to back? 2016 VFL... 2017 AFL.Their 2017 GF win was a thing of beauty.
Yep. Grand fail.Their 2017 GF win was a thing of beauty.
Their 2018 was a lot like our 2017. 15th, 5-6 wins, higher percentage than 15th would expect to have, lost some close ones. Wouldn’t be surprising to see them in the hunt for the eight pretty deep into the season.'With the likes of Brisbane.'
Doubtful they'll be near the bottom half of the eight.
Their 2018 was a lot like our 2017. 15th, 5-6 wins, higher percentage than 15th would expect to have, lost some close ones. Wouldn’t be surprising to see them in the hunt for the eight pretty deep into the season.
Champion Data lists the elite players at every club
Al Paton, Herald Sun
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Be honest. Would you recognise Trent Dumont if he walked into the room right now?
The tough midfielder has played 61 games for the Kangaroos, including 22 last season, finishing equal-fifth in North Melbourne’s best-and-fairest. But he remains largely anonymous outside Arden St, selected in just 526 of almost 200,000 SuperCoach teams — statistically 0 per cent.
He’s also the fifth-best wingman in the AFL, according to Champion Data.
FULL LIST: SCROLL DOWN TO SEE WHO MAKES THE ELITE CLUB
The league’s official number cruncher assigns every player a position and the top 10 per cent of players in each position — based on a complex rankings formula — are classified as elite.
The rankings are based on stats from the past two seasons, with most weight given to recent form.
Also in the elite category are Bombers Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti and Adam Saad, Collingwood defender Jack Crisp, West Coast’s Tom Barrass and Bulldog Matthew Suckling.
But there is no Tom Mitchell, Patrick Cripps or Joel Selwood, who miss out in a crowded midfield.
Based on Champion Data’s rankings, the wing will be a major strength for the Roos next season with trade arrivals Aaron Hall and Jared Polec also ranked in the top five, while Majak Daw is rated elite as a key defender.
In all, North Melbourne has five elite players, second only to Richmond and Adelaide with six each.
At the other end of table, the table isn’t good reading for Port Adelaide fans, with Robbie Gray the Power’s only elite player.
Gold Coast is the only team without an elite player on its list.
Trent Dumont 2017-18
Statistic Average Ranking
Disposals 20.9 Above average
Contested possessions 8.3 Elite
Metres gained 322 Average
Clearances 2.9 Elite
Score involvements 4.8 Above average
Pressure points 45.8 Elite
Tackles 4.1 Elite
ELITE PLAYERS
ADELAIDE
Rory Sloane, Rory Laird, Brodie Smith, Eddie Betts, Tom Lynch, Paul Seedsman
BRISBANE LIONS
Dayne Zorko, Lachie Neale, Harris Andrews, Daniel Rich
CARLTON
Kade Simpson
COLLINGWOOD
Brodie Grundy, Jack Crisp, Jeremy Howe, Jordan De Goey
ESSENDON
Orazio Fantasia, Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti, Adam Saad
FREMANTLE
Nat Fyfe, David Mundy
GEELONG
Patrick Dangerfield, Tom Hawkins, Sam Menegola
GWS GIANTS
Zac Williams, Callan Ward, Lachie Whitfield, Toby Greene, Phil Davis
HAWTHORN
Jack Gunston, Luke Breust, James Sicily
MELBOURNE
Clayton Oliver, Max Gawn, Tom McDonald, Jake Lever
NORTH MELBOURNE
Ben Cunnington, Majak Daw, Jared Polec, Aaron Hall, Trent Dumont
PORT ADELAIDE
Robbie Gray
RICHMOND
Dustin Martin, Jack Riewoldt, Alex Rance, Shane Edwards, Kane Lambert, Josh Caddy
ST KILDA
Jade Gresham
SYDNEY
Lance Franklin, Jake Lloyd
WEST COAST
Jeremy McGovern, Nic Naitanui, Josh Kennedy, Shannon Hurn, Tom Barrass
WESTERN BULLDOGS
Matthew Suckling, Lachie Hunter
Elite players
Club Players
Richmond 6
Adelaide 6
West Coast 5
North Melbourne 5
GWS Giants 5
Collingwood 4
Melbourne 4
Brisbane Lions 4
Geelong 3
Essendon 3
Hawthorn 3
Sydney 2
Western Bulldogs 2
Fremantle 2
St Kilda 1
Port Adelaide 1
Carlton 1
Gold Coast 0
TOP 10 IN EACH POSITION
MIDFIELDERS
1. Dustin Martin
2. Nat Fyfe
3. Clayton Oliver
4. Dayne Zorko
5. Lachie Neale
6. Rory Sloane
7. Ben Cunnington
8. Callan Ward
9. Patrick Cripps
10. Marcus Bontempelli
KEY FORWARDS
1. Lance Franklin
2. Jack Riewoldt
3. Tom Hawkins
4. Jack Gunston
5. Tom McDonald
6. Josh J Kennedy
7. Jarryd Roughead
8. Justin Westhoff
9. Ben Brown
10. Taylor Walker
Dustin Martin didn’t reach his incredible 2017 heights last season, but he’s still the best midfielder in the game.
Essendon’s Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti is rated elite as a general forward.
MID-FORWARDS
1. Patrick Dangerfield
2. Shane Edwards
3. Sam Menegola
4. Robbie Gray
5. David Mundy
6. Mitch Wallis
7. Michael Walters
8. Isaac Heeney
9. Chad Wingard
10. Mitch Robinson
GENERAL FORWARDS
1. Luke Breust
2. Orazio Fantasia
3. Kane Lambert
4. Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti
5. Eddie Betts
6. Jordan De Goey
7. Josh Caddy
8. Tom Lynch
9. Toby Greene
10. Jade Gresham
WINGMEN
1. Lachie Hunter
2. Paul Seedsman
3. Jared Polec
4. Aaron Hall
5. Trent Dumont
6. Sam Lloyd
7. Jack Sinclair
8. David Zaharakis
9. Andrew Gaff
10. Tom Phillips
KEY DEFENDERS
1. Jeremy McGovern
2. Harris Andrews
3. Alex Rance
4. Majak Daw
5. Jake Lever
6. Tom Barrass
7. Phil Davis
8. Liam Jones
9. Lachie Henderson
10. Dougal Howard
Majak Daw was reinvented as a key defender. Picture: Michael Klein
Brodie Grundy edges out Max Gawn as the game’s No.1 ruckman.
RUCKMEN
1. Brodie Grundy
2. Max Gawn
3. Nic Naitanui
4. Paddy Ryder
5. Ben McEvoy
6. Todd Goldstein
7. Aaron Sandilands
8. Toby Nankervis
9. Stefan Martin
10. Zac Smith
GENERAL DEFENDERS
1. Jack Crisp
2. Zac Williams
3. Jeremy Howe
4. Rory Laird
5. Brodie Smith
6. Matthew Suckling
7. Kade Simpson
8. Shannon Hurn
9. Jake Lloyd
10. James Sicily
#3, #4 and #5 in elite wingmen. Third in elite players behind Richmond and Adelaide.
Dumont will go to another level again statistically this year.
He averaged 24 touches, 4.3 tackles, 95 SC points a game in the last half of the season.
Froggy has no elite characteristics. Just filling a spot until we get some better players.Snake would be dying inside.
Dumont will go to another level again statistically this year.
He averaged 24 touches, 4.3 tackles, 95 SC points a game in the last half of the season.
Remeber when Bastinac was going to go to another level alongside Dal Santo and the change in role messed him up?Agree. It will be really disappointing if he doesn’t
I'm yet to see any reliable evidence which suggests that champion data rankings have the slightest relevance to what happens on an AFL field. Until we decide to scrap the ladder altogether and just decide the premiership by supercoach scores these articles are just pointless space fillers.#3, #4 and #5 in elite wingmen. Third in elite players behind Richmond and Adelaide.
He’s a lot more reliable when required to do the team things than Basti was .Remeber when Bastinac was going to go to another level alongside Dal Santo and the change in role messed him up?
We're all comfortable that Froggy is better/harder/smarter than Basti, right?
Remeber when Bastinac was going to go to another level alongside Dal Santo and the change in role messed him up?
We're all comfortable that Froggy is better/harder/smarter than Basti, right?
On paper we've added more firepower to our midfield, but having them all gel - including but not limited to Froggy - is another story. It was suggested this may have been one of *s issues last year with their imports.Remeber when Bastinac was going to go to another level alongside Dal Santo and the change in role messed him up?
We're all comfortable that Froggy is better/harder/smarter than Basti, right?
Their 2018 was a lot like our 2017. 15th, 5-6 wins, higher percentage than 15th would expect to have, lost some close ones. Wouldn’t be surprising to see them in the hunt for the eight pretty deep into the season.
I'm yet to see any reliable evidence which suggests that champion data rankings have the slightest relevance to what happens on an AFL field. Until we decide to scrap the ladder altogether and just decide the premiership by supercoach scores these articles are just pointless space fillers.