Opinion Commentary & Media III

[Mav]

If either carlton or voss are making business or career decisions on what they see on afl shows... then i just dont know how they would even dress themselves in the morning. Thats straight up insane.

Have you ever smiled in your life?

 

[Sillygit]

Have you ever smiled in your life?

Yup, ill wear that, went right over my head.

Maybe i feel that much confidence in carlton?

 

[Twinkletoes]

I know we joke that the fines go toward the MRP Christmas Party but is there an actual policy of where the money from fines go?

Consolidated Revenue from memory, which is distributed to all clubs.

 

[giantroo]

 

[B4Bear]

The AFL pays $250,000 towards concussion research each year, and that is paid for by tribunal fines. (From the current collective bargaining agreement). If there is any shortfall, the AFL pays for it itself. Haven't bene able to find what happens if total fines are more than that.

So Cunners is fulfilling a gap by having a better social conscience than eveyone else. Man is a legend on so many levels.

Erect a statue, now.

 

[Groin guru]

He took a seven figure pay cut to take up this role. Do your really think he doesn't want to do it?

didn't think I needed to add a /s to that seesee

 

[LETSGOKANGAS]

The other McKay?

Over our man Larkey?

 

[Egga]

I would rather be on Schindler’s list than Carlton’s list.

 

[WayneShimmiesTheBush]

Just heard a bite of Robbo on 360 calling Cunners a stomach sniper. Lol. Anyone hear that?

I assume he followed that up with "but at least he is not head sniper like Fyfe, Ablett and Jordan Lewis".

 

[gokangas]

Can't say that sacking Scott and the search for a new coach hasn't got us plenty of media. Another story about Scott's demise.

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[susurrar]

Can't say that sacking Scott and the search for a new coach hasn't got us plenty of media. Another story about Scott's demise.

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can you copy and paste that mate?

 

[gokangas]

Inside Brad Scott’s rise and fall as head coach of North Melbourne
Brad Scott’s time at North Melbourne was a rollercoaster. But amid the ups and downs over a decade, one decision stands out above all as having the biggest impact on his future at the club.
JON ANDERSON, Herald Sun
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July 11, 2019 5:41pm

Brad Scott arrived at Arden Street in 2010, appointed to guide a club that was coming off an inglorious 13th place from seven wins the previous year.
The former Brisbane premiership player quickly implemented off-field improvements that remain in place today.
No longer would players have to travel off-site to visit part-time doctors and physios in the city.

And when it came to marketing the North Melbourne brand, he was everything a lower-profile club could have wished for.
After flirting around base camp of the eight in 2010-13, Scott took the Kangaroos to successive preliminary finals in 2014-15 with a team former player Leigh “Patch” Adams believed over-achieved.
“I thought Brad Scott was a brilliant coach,” Adams said.
“He turned us around from a young team copping regular whacks to one that reached a couple of preliminary finals and to my mind one that batted above our average on talent.

“He was tactically the best coach I’ve had and he gave us self-belief. It was all about adhering to his game plan. If we achieved that then we would win more than lose.”
North clearly adhered to that game plan in the first nine games of 2016, remaining undefeated before collapsing, winning just three more matches and copping a thrashing from Adelaide in the first week of the finals.
It was the same season in which Scott ended the careers of much-loved veterans Brent “Boomer” Harvey, Drew Petrie and Michael Firrito.

Brad Scott after being appointed North Melbourne coach in 2009.

He also called time on Nick Dal Santo.
It was the decision to axe Harvey, a 38-year-old who appeared to drink from the fountain of youth, that changed the narrative and would rankle Roo loyalists.
It still bothers them to this day.
Harvey politely declined to be interviewed during the week and has never publicly criticised Scott or his decision.
He finished fifth in the club’s best and fairest in 2016, picking up 496 possessions in his 23 games for 36 goals, figures comparable to Toby Greene, who was picked as a small/medium forward in the All-Australian team.
One North insider said the Harvey decision was “still sensitive”.
“You could argue it was the beginning of the end for Brad and that things began to unravel from then on,” the insider said.
The figures largely support that view — North finished 15th with six wins in 2017 and when Scott left after Round 10 this year, the Kangaroos were sitting 14th with three wins.

Dumping Brent Harvey was a huge call from Brad Scott. Picture: Wayne Ludbey

THE MOMENT WITH THE NORTH BOARD
It was five weeks into this season that Scott advised his board that the slate needed to be cleaned, possibly with senior players culled or traded so North could get back into the draft.
The board reaction was: “Hang on, didn’t we just do that a couple of years ago in 2016 when Boomer and the others were sacked?”
From that moment the board and Scott were headed in differing directions.
Scott was said to have checked out mentally a month before he coached North to an inspiring Round 10 win over the Western Bulldogs.
Ironically, his players were largely positive after the win, hardly the actions of a group who didn’t care for their coach.
It’s a view former Kangaroo defender Firrito could relate to.
“From my experience Brad always puts his players first and went into bat for his boys, being very protective of them towards the media,” Firrito said.
“We knew that he was happy to cop the brunt on our behalf.”
Firrito, who played 275 matches with the club in 2003-16, said Scott was capable of succeeding in life inside or outside football.

Brent Harvey and Lindsay Thomas in tears after Boomer’s final game. Picture: Getty Images

“How smart is he? Very,” he said.
“He knows the game really well and is a very switched-on bloke.
“If he hadn’t gone down the coaching path I’m pretty sure he would have already made his mark in the business world. He has that ability to get his message through.
“Our wives are good friends and catch up, plus we have kids around the same age. I saw him up on the Gold Coast recently and we had a good chat.
“It seemed from that chat that some fresh air was required from everybody, so the timing was probably right.
“I’m not sure if he wants to coach again. Personally, I don’t know why anyone would want to put themselves through that type of heat.
“But Brad is a super competitive bloke, the way he played, the way he wants to get the best out of himself so it wouldn’t surprise me if he did step back into a coaching role.”

THE RHYCE SHAW IMPACT
On-lookers can place whatever spin they like on North winning four of five games under caretaker coach Rhyce Shaw, but clearly there is a new criteria for selection.
Scott had his favourites — like every man since Jack Worrall became the first acknowledged VFL coach 113 years ago — and there was never any suggestion that a player of captain Jack Ziebell’s standing would see VFL action, even if his form at times may have warranted it.
He was also a loyal Lindsay Thomas fan.
Under Shaw you could surmise that both of those players would have done time in the VFL.
When respected member of the leadership group Jamie McMillan recovered from a calf injury in June, Shaw ensured his first two football appointments were VFL rather than AFL.
It has sent a powerful message.
Even one of the club’s best player in Shaun Higgins is not guaranteed automatic selection when he returns from a shoulder injury.

Rhyce Shaw has made a huge impact at North Melbourne. Picture: Getty Images

WHERE WILL BRAD SCOTT END UP?
With seven rounds to determine how many AFL coaching positions will be available in 2020, where does Scott sit?
He has been named in discussion around the vacant Carlton job, and has been linked to St Kilda where the pressure has been mounting on Alan Richardson.
The circumstances in which he left North are not ideal, especially since the success of caretaker Shaw.
But Scott has years under his belt, and clubs want experience rather than “training wheels”, to use a Chris Judd analogy.
“Brad has that steely resolve where he is confident in his ability. I took that away from my time with Brad, that so long as you know you are doing the right thing, the outside noise is irrelevant,” Firrito said.
Adams, who is these days building a solid reputation of a young standalone VFL team in Coburg, is less certain about Scott’s future.

Brad Scott took North Melbourne to two preliminary finals. Picture: Wayne Ludbey

“We caught up recently and enjoy a good relationship where we speak about our young families, and how football plays a role in general life,” he said.
“We are both stay at home dads so we talk about the frustrations, and joy, of looking after two kids under five.
“Brad was tactically the best coach I’ve had and I played my best footy under him because he gave me the self-belief. He was tactically brilliant, the way he sets up the game during the week, to exploit the opposition.
“He always wanted to get the game on our terms before the ball had been bounced.

“I grew up a Fitzroy/Brisbane supporter and loved watching him play for the Lions, and thought if he coached like he played then we would cop a lot of sprays, but he was actually very measured. Rather than yell, he would be more disappointed in you and it was actually worse.
“Will he coach again? My first thought was he would because he has so much knowledge, but when you have been in footy for as long as he has then maybe you want to look elsewhere.
“Having time away from the game may be giving him a different perspective.”

 

[koshari]

Phil K back on mangrok tonight.

 

[King Hansen]

Prediction: Essendon by 17 points
More By Callum Twomey
^ from the game previews on the AFL website.

And then
CALLUM TWOMEY
West Coast (35 points)
Sydney
Hawthorn
North Melbourne
Adelaide
Geelong
Richmond
Western Bulldogs
Brisbane
Total: 82

Ok Cal....

 

[giantroo]

Tips from afl.com.au

 

[CBSlogger]

This might be unpopular around these parts, but this kind of thing isn't at all tough. In fact it's the complete opposite IMO.

Toughness is Jed using his body as a cannon ball with no regard for his own safety, or Jack's relentless attack on the footy, or Taz standing under a high ball to intercept mark, or Brown pushing past the mental and physical barrier to run 15kms every game, or what Cunners does the other 99% of the time.

It's cheap, it's soft, it's everything that Cunners isn't. He needs to get it out of his game.

At the game it seemed to me that Gresham was a lock to get the give and go... Cunners saw it and intervened. Looked worse because Gresham didn't get the ball.

 

[kangaspurs]

At the game it seemed to me that Gresham was a lock to get the give and go... Cunners saw it and intervened. Looked worse because Gresham didn't get the ball.

That's absolutely what he was doing IMO, but the way he went about it was a bit cheap. Agree that was his first intention though.

 

[Snake_Baker]

"The former Brisbane premiership player quickly implemented off-field improvements that remain in place today."

Where do they find this rubbish?

 

[WD Roo]

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Let’s not get ahead ourselves.

 

[Snake_Baker]

We're good value at $1.90 (-1.5)

 

[StiffArm]

We're good value at $1.90 (-1.5)

Have a question (and feel free to ignore it or tell me where to go), but are you ahead when it comes to the gambling?

I get the feeling that gambling is being normalized in Australian culture somewhat artificially (mainly through all the advertising) and the majority of average punters lose a fair bit of dough.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Have a question (and feel free to ignore it or tell me where to go), but are you ahead when it comes to the gambling?

I get the feeling that gambling is being normalized in Australian culture somewhat artificially (mainly through all the advertising) and the majority of average punters lose a fair bit of dough.

In my lifetime? I wouldn't know. It's just a bit of fun to me.

I certainly won well when I used to play black jack and the casino wasn't shuffling the shoe (card counting).

 

[7577969923]

Have a question (and feel free to ignore it or tell me where to go), but are you ahead when it comes to the gambling?

I get the feeling that gambling is being normalized in Australian culture somewhat artificially (mainly through all the advertising) and the majority of average punters lose a fair bit of dough.

if punters didn't lose the industry wouldn't exist.

 

[Hojuman]

Charlie Curnow.

For BBB or Souva ? Not at this stage.

 

[Thewlis Dish]

For BBB or Souva ? Not at this stage.

Of course you'd take him over Larkey, but the question was for anyone. So I'm trading Red Og.