NFL Commissioner Goodell Discussion

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ESPN's Adam Schefter reports the NFLPA will "conditionally vote for or against a 17-game regular-season schedule."
Per Schefter, acquiescence to the elongated schedule would be a matter of "accepting the one thing they hate in exchange for 10 or more things they want." It is highly unclear how such a vote might go. 2021 is the earliest a 17-game slate could begin. The current CBA expires following the 2020 season. A work stoppage remains a distinct possibility.
SOURCE: ESPN
Feb 2, 2020, 11:03 AM ET
 

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[Robinson] The #NFL collective bargaining agreement — the undisclosed location of the @NFLPA meeting of key player reps is in Los Angeles. I’ve been told it convenes Thursday. Players definitely have concerns orbiting a 17-game schedule. If they can accept that, this will get done quickly.
 

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NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports the CBA will likely be signed either before the free agency period or after the 2020 season.
There are important meetings over the next couple of weeks that will determine if a new CBA is agreed upon between the owners and the NFLPA. If these meetings go well, then we should have a new deal done within the next month or so. If not, then things could be pushed back months and months. With massive TV deals waiting to be signed, it's in the best interest of the league to figure things out sooner rather than later.
SOURCE: Ian Rapoport on Twitter
Feb 14, 2020, 2:01 PM ET
 

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NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports the CBA will likely be signed either before the free agency period or after the 2020 season.
There are important meetings over the next couple of weeks that will determine if a new CBA is agreed upon between the owners and the NFLPA. If these meetings go well, then we should have a new deal done within the next month or so. If not, then things could be pushed back months and months. With massive TV deals waiting to be signed, it's in the best interest of the league to figure things out sooner rather than later.
SOURCE: Ian Rapoport on Twitter
Feb 14, 2020, 2:01 PM ET
Why sports writers shouldn't comment on commercial matters.

If the CBA is not signed before free agency begins, the NFLPA should be shot for signing the new CBA until the details of the new television contracts are signed unless there are massive wins for them to clear the way for an uncomplicated or uncompromised TV rights negotiation.
 

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the NFLPA should be shot for signing the new CBA until the details of the new television contracts are signed
Current CBA expires after this upcoming season, while the current TV rights deal doesn't expire for a further year.

Unless the NFLPA are willing to cut into the off-season activities next year and potentially risk a lock-out, I'm not sure how they could wait until after the next TV is signed
 

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Current CBA expires after this upcoming season, while the current TV rights deal doesn't expire for a further year.

Unless the NFLPA are willing to cut into the off-season activities next year and potentially risk a lock-out, I'm not sure how they could wait until after the next TV is signed
Should have changed "signed" for "known".

Since the last CBA was signed, the following has happened:

- Average NFL franchise value has gone from a little over USD1Billion to nearly 2.9Billion.
- Salary cap went from 120M to approx 201M in 2020
- The spike in franchise value that will occur after the next TV agreement has not been factored in yet.
- Broadcast viewership has consistently risen (however, TV share has eroded in place of increased streaming services)
- Ticket pricing, merchandising, game day packages etc etc growth have all outstripped the rate of growth of franchise costs.
- Investment to income ratios have all increased in owners' favor almost purely based on the surge in new public and league funded stadiums.

This all amounts to the product itself (the players and the games they play) becoming less of a factor in determining a franchise value. It's like Coca Cola that used to be a soft drink company or Ferrari a car manufacturer but are just marketing juggernauts now.

If I was the NFLPA I would want to link the salary cap as a fixed percentage to the nett value of the franchise.
 

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If you were the players what would you be fighting for in the CBA other than more money.
I think they need to remove the Franchise tags, remove the gameday roster inactive, take weed off the banned substance list and put on the pain relief list, more money for the retirement funds. cut down preseason games [because the owners want the extra regular season game]. could be a tweak to the practice squad rules. More time off in the off season before camps. more guaranteed contracts for non QB/Star players, 2nd in season bye week. Could they ask for Rookie contracts to be changed like RB's get 3 year deals so they can make money on a 2nd contract before they are too beat up.

I do wonder if either side will fight for changes to the cap as in either QB's paid in their own cap or a offence/defense cap splt. there has been talk of both over the past few years but dont know if any is serious.
 

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good post aussiedude

it seems like this entire cba was rushed thru, and no real negotiating or grand ideas were pushed for.

just the players wanting a bit more percentage of revenue and a fight over number of regular season games.

no anti-goodell powers in this round either
 

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rotoworld's quick take on it...


The Washington Post's Mark Maske reports the league is expected to expand the 2020 postseason to 14 teams "even if the players fail to ratify the proposed CBA."
Per Maske, "the owners, in their view, don't need to the players' approval of that." We would assume that is very much up for debate. The owners are being quite heavy handed in their handoff of CBA talks to the NFLPA. The owners tentatively approved the "principal elements" of a new agreement on Thursday. They are quite publicly trying to force their employees' hand.
SOURCE: Mark Maske on Twitter
Feb 20, 2020, 4:48 PM ET
 

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Owners have approved the proposed CBA (although it wasn't unanimous). Now goes to the NFLPA and the 32 team delegates to decide



 

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Going to be very interesting to see what the NFLPA do from here. Owners are putting their feet on the gas trying to get this deal done quick. De Smith is an embarrassment though, so anything is possible when it comes to the NFLPA. I don't think this deal is horrendously bad for the players. It's an improvement on the past agreement from 2011 for both sides imo.
 

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NFL Network's Tom Pelissero reports the NFLPA will not hold a vote today.
Instead, the NFLPA plans to discuss the proposed terms into the weekend and potentially beyond. The owners have tried to push this CBA through as soon as possible with TV deals on the horizon, but the players are still sorting out what amendments they want to the current proposal. There isn't a CBA vote date planned at the moment, but expect the two sides to leak information throughout the entire process. Stay tuned.
SOURCE: Tom Pelissero on Twitter
Feb 21, 2020, 3:53 PM ET
 

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The NFLPA executive committee recommended to decline the proposed collective bargaining agreement to the 32-man NFLPA board of representatives.
The NFLPA executive committee does not have final say, but it is notable that the vote went 6-5 in favor of declining the proposed offer. Now the board of representatives will discuss and vote on the proposal. The NFLPA constitution outlines that the paying members of the union, not the 32-man board of representatives, will have the final say in the proposal. The players just need a majority vote to agree to the owner's current proposal. It's a confusing process, but one that seems to be finally gaining clarity. The biggest things to sort out for the players are the revenue split, 17-game schedule, roster sizes, and player punishment.
SOURCE: Tom Pelissero on Twitter
Feb 21, 2020, 1:11 PM ET
 

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NFL Network's Tom Pelissero reports the NFL has delayed the franchise and transition tag deadline by two days.
Teams can place their tags between February 27 and March 12 now, which slightly helps teams navigate the salary cap with the CBA discussions being a big priority at the moment. ESPN's Adam Schefter also reports that teams will be able to use a franchise and transition tag this season, pending a new CBA agreement. Dak Prescott and Jameis Winston are two players who could potentially be tagged depending on how the next few weeks go.

SOURCE: Tom Pelissero on Twitter
Feb 22, 2020, 8:03 PM ET
 

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