comparing aust and england

[pluga_4]

just a side note, but currently australia have 5 batsmen that average over 50 in test cricket : ponting, hayden, gilchrist, hussey and hodge.

england have none.

now thats music to my ears

would like to hear eddie's thoughts or should i say excuses on this one

 

[eddiesmith]

We are a team on the rise, Australia is a team on the slide

 

[LIONS then DAYLIGHT]

Eddie, who would you rather have in your team Ian Bell/Michael Vaughan/Michael Clark/Brad Hodge

????

 

[pluga_4]

We are a team on the rise, Australia is a team on the slide

no, no no eddie, bell and pietersen and vaughan's test averages are spiralling south mate

 

[eddiesmith]

Eddie, who would you rather have in your team Ian Bell/Michael Vaughan/Michael Clark/Brad Hodge

????

I would take Vaughan and Hodge obviously as there is room for both of them, wouldnt even think about taking either of the other 2

 

[LIONS then DAYLIGHT]

Edward, what did you think of Hodgey's innings today???

Your Thoughts????

 

[eddiesmith]

Edward, what did you think of Hodgey's innings today???

Your Thoughts????

The bits I saw of it, he was sensational

 

[LIONS then DAYLIGHT]

What did you think of Michael Clark's innings Edward

Your Thoughts????

 

[pluga_4]

i'll tell ya my thoughts in one word.

BRIEF !

 

[eddiesmith]

What did you think of Michael Clark's innings Edward

Your Thoughts????

Clarke is so boring I fall asleep as he walks out to bat and wake up when he gets out

 

[LIONS then DAYLIGHT]

Edward what is your opinion of Bill Lawry???

Your Thoughts???

 

[Sylvia Saint]

Clarke is so boring I fall asleep as he walks out to bat and wake up when he gets out

Maybe you've found a cure for your insomnia.

 

[Scabletooney]

Clarke is so boring I fall asleep as he walks out to bat and wake up when he gets out

well powernaps saves lives

 

[eddiesmith]

Maybe you've found a cure for your insomnia.

Nah, I wake up as soon as he goes out, so its only a 10 minute powernap

 

[F/D]

Trescothick < Hayden
Strauss > Langer
Vaughan < Ponting
Bell > Clarke
Pieterson > Hodge
Flintoff > Symonds
Jones < Gilly
Giles < Warne
Jones > Lee
Hoggard > MacGill
Harmison < McGrath



6-5 Englands way

 

[eddiesmith]

Trescothick < Hayden
Strauss > Langer
Vaughan < Ponting
Bell > Clarke
Pieterson > Hodge
Flintoff > Symonds
Jones < Gilly
Giles < Warne
Jones > Lee
Hoggard > MacGill
Harmison < McGrath



6-5 Englands way

Personally I would take Trescothick over Hayden any day for his consistency and reliability

 

[gothedons]

stupid thread to make.. so what you are beating the windies what is there to brag about when u got completely outplayed by the english not so long ago, who cares about averages... the west indies have the best batsman in the world, it hasnt helped them

 

[F/D]

Personally I would take Trescothick over Hayden any day for his consistency and reliability

Yeah well, just wanted to give the Aussies a bit more cred. mate haha

 

[eddiesmith]

Yeah well, just wanted to give the Aussies a bit more cred. mate haha

A fairer comparison would be

Trescothick > Hayden
Strauss > Langer
Vaughan > Ponting
Bell <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Hodge
Pietersen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hussey
Flintoff >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Symonds
G.Jones > Gilchrist
Giles <<< Warne
S.Jones > Lee
Hoggard > MacGill
Harmison > McGrath

9-2 Englands way

 

[F/D]

Hmm I see so, No Vics = No Australia?

 

[GoSydneySwans]

A fairer comparison would be

Trescothick > Hayden
Strauss > Langer
Vaughan > Ponting
Bell <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Hodge
Pietersen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hussey
Flintoff >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Symonds
G.Jones > Gilchrist
Giles <<< Warne
S.Jones > Lee
Hoggard > MacGill
Harmison > McGrath

9-2 Englands way

Harmison is greater than McGrath...right...well...possibly...wait...NO!

Also, you have used heaps of > or < for those comparisons in the middle order, but only three for Warney > Giles. Think Shane deserves a tad more than that, Giles is useless.

Geraint Jones is better than Gilchrist? Maybe you are referring to Gilchrist hitting it in the air a fair bit, at least Geraint keeps the ball down I suppose (when he is keeping).

Strauss is better than Langer? I think you're pushing the boundaries a bit there, being a bit lenient on your international exchange player.

Vaughan is better than Ponting? I think Punter has well and truly got Vaughan covered, batting, fielding and even bowling.

Hussey is better than Pietersen, as neither have really given enough data Tests-wise, you have to go on FC cricket. Hussey's record is better than Pietersen's, especially considering that Hussey is playing a higher standard of cricket. Pietersen is a glorified slogger.

Flintoff may be a lot better than Symonds, but you're still extending the boundaries by saying Symonds is in our first XI.

With those errors corrected, it is 6-5 Australia's way, meaning I won't bother explaining that MacGill and Hayden are a thousand times better than Hoggard and Trescothick...you probably realised that anyway.

 

[F/D]

Hahahha

Pieterson ********s on Hussey.

Pieterson can block, unlike Symonds....

 

[Squizza]

Trescothick < Hayden
Strauss > Langer
Vaughan < Ponting
Bell > Clarke
Pieterson > Hodge
Flintoff > Symonds
Jones < Gilly
Giles < Warne
Jones > Lee
Hoggard > MacGill
Harmison < McGrath

6-5 Englands way

- Trescothick vs Hayden: Hayden sh*ts all over Trescothick Eddie,
- Strauss vs Langer: Strauss, similar technique to Langer. Has a better career record, would still probably rather Langer, but that's probably my bias shining through.
- Vaughan vs Ponting: don't need to say anything about that,
- Bell vs Clarke: Clarke you would say has more potential, but both have played very ordinary when exposed to bowlers who actually know how to bowl.
- Pieterson vs Hodge: Fair enough call there. Pietersen has had a great start to his international career, Hodge's has just started and will basically be a seat warmer for our next superstar batsman.
- Flintoff vs Symonds: Flintoff hands down there,
- Jones vs Gilchist: Jones wouldn't even be able to catch a cold let alone a cricket ball travelling at 100km/h.
- Giles vs Warne: Don't even know how Giles warrants a spot in the English team. One of, if not the worst spinner in international cricket
- Jones vs Lee: Jones has had one good series, Lee is starting to find his feet again, but Jones wins this.
- Hoggard vs MacGill: No chance Hoggard is > than MacGill. MacGill has a better average, better strike rate and the only thing agaisnt MacGill is his eco rate.
- Harmison vs McGrath: How people rate Harmison as the second best pace bowler is beyond me.

Through my calculations:
Aus 6
Eng 4
With Bell vs Clarke, being deadlocked due to the crappiness of both players

 

[F/D]

Bells better.

 

[Rob B]

These player v player comparison threads are stupid

I am not going to get involved with an England v Australia slanging match, both sides have their strong and weak areas. Both, are very good sides.

Finally.

Michael Clarke & Ian Bell = GREAT MEN COMETH.
Short term pain = Long term gain.