Condolences to the Ablett Family

[Thuggee_Cult]

Very sad news, puts it all into perspective. It's just a game in the end...

The Hun reporting that her death was non-suspicious and that she was seeking treatment for schizophrenia. Article here:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/vi...s/news-story/549263e99b2553b73933923c18f71008

 

[Wosh]

RIP, another young life cut short through mental illness. This is a heartbreaking way to lose a loved one, sincere condolences to all the Ablett family and I hope people leave it alone and give them privacy

 

[Stevi_Tigers]

feel sorry for her friends and family such terrible news

 

[tugga]

Gut wrenching.
I genuinely feel for all involved.
RIP.

 

[ThatsjustDappa]

Not sure how you could even compare the two, considering the amount of tragedy associated with one family.

Ablett lost a sister and his dad hung out with a dead smackie. The kennedys have had 71 years of tragedy.

• 1941 — Rosemary Kennedy was often believed to have been intellectually disabled, and due to her severe mood swings and the worry that she would damage the Kennedy reputation,[12] her father, Joseph, Sr., arranged in secret for her to undergo a lobotomy. The lobotomy instead left her unable to walk or speak well, and as a result, Rosemary remained institutionalized until her death in 2005.[4][5][6][13][14] Rosemary's condition may have inspired her sister, Eunice, to initiate the Special Olympics in 1962.
• August 12, 1944 — Joseph P. Kennedy, Jr. died when his plane exploded over East Suffolk, England, as part of Project Anvil during World War II.
• May 13, 1948 — Kathleen Cavendish, Marchioness of Hartington died in a plane crash in France.[4][5][6][14]
• August 9, 1963 — Patrick Bouvier Kennedy died of infant respiratory distress syndrome two days after his premature birth. Jackie missed the funeral because she was still recovering from the C-section at Otis Air Force Base.[4][6][13][15]
• November 22, 1963 — U.S. President John F. Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas, Texas by Lee Harvey Oswald.[16]
• June 19, 1964 — U.S. Senator Ted Kennedy was involved in a plane crash in which one of his aides and the pilot were killed. Ted was pulled from the wreckage by fellow senator Birch Bayh and spent weeks in a hospital recovering from a broken back, a punctured lung, broken ribs, and internal bleeding.[4][5][14][17]
• June 5, 1968 — U.S. Senator Robert F. Kennedy was assassinated by Sirhan Sirhan in Los Angeles immediately following his victory in the California Democratic presidential primary. Sirhan pleaded guilty to Robert's murder and is serving a life sentence at the Richard J. Donovan Correctional Facility.[4][5][6][14]
• July 18, 1969 — In the Chappaquiddick incident, Ted Kennedy accidentally drove his car off a bridge on Chappaquiddick Island, which fatally trapping his 28-year-old companion, Mary Jo Kopechne, inside.[4][5][6][7][14] Ted pleaded guilty to a charge of leaving the scene of the accident causing personal injury.[18] In his televised statement a week later, Ted stated that on the night of the incident he wondered "whether some awful curse did actually hang over all the Kennedys."[9][19][20]
• August 13, 1973 — Joseph P. Kennedy II was the driver of a Jeep that crashed and left his passenger, Pam Kelley, paralyzed.[4][6][13]
• November 17, 1973 — Ted Kennedy, Jr. had his right leg amputated because of bone cancer.
• October 30, 1975 — Martha Moxley was bludgeoned to death with a golf club in Greenwich, Connecticut. In 2002, Michael Skakel, a nephew of Ethel Skakel Kennedy, was found guilty of murder, but a new trial was ordered in 2013.[21]
• April 25, 1984 — David A. Kennedy died of a cocaine and pethidine overdose in a Palm Beach, Florida hotel room.[4][5][6][13][14]
• April 1, 1991 — William Kennedy Smith was arrested and charged with the rape of a young woman at the Kennedy estate in Palm Beach, Florida. The subsequent trial attracted extensive media coverage.[22] Smith was acquitted.[1][3][4][13]
• December 31, 1997 — Michael LeMoyne Kennedy died in a skiing accident in Aspen, Colorado.[1][4][5][6][13][14]
• July 16, 1999 — John F. Kennedy Jr. died when his plane he was piloting, a Piper Saratoga, crashed into the Atlantic Ocean off the coast of Martha's Vineyard due to pilot errorand spatial disorientation. His wife and sister-in-law were also on board and died.[4][5][6][14]
• September 16, 2011 — Kara Kennedy died of a heart attack while exercising in a Washington, D.C. health club. Kara had reportedly suffered from lung cancer nine years earlier, but she had recovered after the removal of part of her right lung.[23][24]
• May 16, 2012 — Mary Richardson Kennedy committed suicide on the grounds of her home in Bedford, Westchester County, New York.[14][25]
• July 13, 2012 — Kerry Kennedy sideswiped a tractor trailer on Interstate 684 in Westchester County while under the influence of zolpidem, which Kennedy stated she had mistaken for her daily thyroid medication.[26] She was charged with impaired driving but acquitted on all charges on February 28, 2014.[27]

Can you make a separate thread arguing the Kennedy tragedies compared to the Abletts, this is a condolences thread.....thanks.

 

[sherb]

Not sure how you could even compare the two, considering the amount of tragedy associated with one family.

Ablett lost a sister and his dad hung out with a dead smackie. The kennedys have had 71 years of tragedy.

• 1941 — Rosemary Kennedy was often believed to have been intellectually disabled, and due to her severe mood swings and the worry that she would damage the Kennedy reputation,[12] her father, Joseph, Sr., arranged in secret for her to undergo a lobotomy. The lobotomy instead left her unable to walk or speak well, and as a result, Rosemary remained institutionalized until her death in 2005.[4][5][6][13][14] Rosemary's condition may have inspired her sister, Eunice, to initiate the Special Olympics in 1962.
• August 12, 1944 — Joseph P. Kennedy, Jr. died when his plane exploded over East Suffolk, England, as part of Project Anvil during World War II.
• May 13, 1948 — Kathleen Cavendish, Marchioness of Hartington died in a plane crash in France.[4][5][6][14]
• August 9, 1963 — Patrick Bouvier Kennedy died of infant respiratory distress syndrome two days after his premature birth. Jackie missed the funeral because she was still recovering from the C-section at Otis Air Force Base.[4][6][13][15]
• November 22, 1963 — U.S. President John F. Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas, Texas by Lee Harvey Oswald.[16]
• June 19, 1964 — U.S. Senator Ted Kennedy was involved in a plane crash in which one of his aides and the pilot were killed. Ted was pulled from the wreckage by fellow senator Birch Bayh and spent weeks in a hospital recovering from a broken back, a punctured lung, broken ribs, and internal bleeding.[4][5][14][17]
• June 5, 1968 — U.S. Senator Robert F. Kennedy was assassinated by Sirhan Sirhan in Los Angeles immediately following his victory in the California Democratic presidential primary. Sirhan pleaded guilty to Robert's murder and is serving a life sentence at the Richard J. Donovan Correctional Facility.[4][5][6][14]
• July 18, 1969 — In the Chappaquiddick incident, Ted Kennedy accidentally drove his car off a bridge on Chappaquiddick Island, which fatally trapping his 28-year-old companion, Mary Jo Kopechne, inside.[4][5][6][7][14] Ted pleaded guilty to a charge of leaving the scene of the accident causing personal injury.[18] In his televised statement a week later, Ted stated that on the night of the incident he wondered "whether some awful curse did actually hang over all the Kennedys."[9][19][20]
• August 13, 1973 — Joseph P. Kennedy II was the driver of a Jeep that crashed and left his passenger, Pam Kelley, paralyzed.[4][6][13]
• November 17, 1973 — Ted Kennedy, Jr. had his right leg amputated because of bone cancer.
• October 30, 1975 — Martha Moxley was bludgeoned to death with a golf club in Greenwich, Connecticut. In 2002, Michael Skakel, a nephew of Ethel Skakel Kennedy, was found guilty of murder, but a new trial was ordered in 2013.[21]
• April 25, 1984 — David A. Kennedy died of a cocaine and pethidine overdose in a Palm Beach, Florida hotel room.[4][5][6][13][14]
• April 1, 1991 — William Kennedy Smith was arrested and charged with the rape of a young woman at the Kennedy estate in Palm Beach, Florida. The subsequent trial attracted extensive media coverage.[22] Smith was acquitted.[1][3][4][13]
• December 31, 1997 — Michael LeMoyne Kennedy died in a skiing accident in Aspen, Colorado.[1][4][5][6][13][14]
• July 16, 1999 — John F. Kennedy Jr. died when his plane he was piloting, a Piper Saratoga, crashed into the Atlantic Ocean off the coast of Martha's Vineyard due to pilot errorand spatial disorientation. His wife and sister-in-law were also on board and died.[4][5][6][14]
• September 16, 2011 — Kara Kennedy died of a heart attack while exercising in a Washington, D.C. health club. Kara had reportedly suffered from lung cancer nine years earlier, but she had recovered after the removal of part of her right lung.[23][24]
• May 16, 2012 — Mary Richardson Kennedy committed suicide on the grounds of her home in Bedford, Westchester County, New York.[14][25]
• July 13, 2012 — Kerry Kennedy sideswiped a tractor trailer on Interstate 684 in Westchester County while under the influence of zolpidem, which Kennedy stated she had mistaken for her daily thyroid medication.[26] She was charged with impaired driving but acquitted on all charges on February 28, 2014.[27]

I would suggest you re-read the opening post. This thread was specifically and clearly opened as a condolences thread for the Abletts. Not for the above.

A bit of respect too difficult for you?

 

[Rennells]

Not sure how you could even compare the two, considering the amount of tragedy associated with one family.

Ablett lost a sister and his dad hung out with a dead smackie. The kennedys have had 71 years of tragedy.

• 1941 — Rosemary Kennedy was often believed to have been intellectually disabled, and due to her severe mood swings and the worry that she would damage the Kennedy reputation,[12] her father, Joseph, Sr., arranged in secret for her to undergo a lobotomy. The lobotomy instead left her unable to walk or speak well, and as a result, Rosemary remained institutionalized until her death in 2005.[4][5][6][13][14] Rosemary's condition may have inspired her sister, Eunice, to initiate the Special Olympics in 1962.
• August 12, 1944 — Joseph P. Kennedy, Jr. died when his plane exploded over East Suffolk, England, as part of Project Anvil during World War II.
• May 13, 1948 — Kathleen Cavendish, Marchioness of Hartington died in a plane crash in France.[4][5][6][14]
• August 9, 1963 — Patrick Bouvier Kennedy died of infant respiratory distress syndrome two days after his premature birth. Jackie missed the funeral because she was still recovering from the C-section at Otis Air Force Base.[4][6][13][15]
• November 22, 1963 — U.S. President John F. Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas, Texas by Lee Harvey Oswald.[16]
• June 19, 1964 — U.S. Senator Ted Kennedy was involved in a plane crash in which one of his aides and the pilot were killed. Ted was pulled from the wreckage by fellow senator Birch Bayh and spent weeks in a hospital recovering from a broken back, a punctured lung, broken ribs, and internal bleeding.[4][5][14][17]
• June 5, 1968 — U.S. Senator Robert F. Kennedy was assassinated by Sirhan Sirhan in Los Angeles immediately following his victory in the California Democratic presidential primary. Sirhan pleaded guilty to Robert's murder and is serving a life sentence at the Richard J. Donovan Correctional Facility.[4][5][6][14]
• July 18, 1969 — In the Chappaquiddick incident, Ted Kennedy accidentally drove his car off a bridge on Chappaquiddick Island, which fatally trapping his 28-year-old companion, Mary Jo Kopechne, inside.[4][5][6][7][14] Ted pleaded guilty to a charge of leaving the scene of the accident causing personal injury.[18] In his televised statement a week later, Ted stated that on the night of the incident he wondered "whether some awful curse did actually hang over all the Kennedys."[9][19][20]
• August 13, 1973 — Joseph P. Kennedy II was the driver of a Jeep that crashed and left his passenger, Pam Kelley, paralyzed.[4][6][13]
• November 17, 1973 — Ted Kennedy, Jr. had his right leg amputated because of bone cancer.
• October 30, 1975 — Martha Moxley was bludgeoned to death with a golf club in Greenwich, Connecticut. In 2002, Michael Skakel, a nephew of Ethel Skakel Kennedy, was found guilty of murder, but a new trial was ordered in 2013.[21]
• April 25, 1984 — David A. Kennedy died of a cocaine and pethidine overdose in a Palm Beach, Florida hotel room.[4][5][6][13][14]
• April 1, 1991 — William Kennedy Smith was arrested and charged with the rape of a young woman at the Kennedy estate in Palm Beach, Florida. The subsequent trial attracted extensive media coverage.[22] Smith was acquitted.[1][3][4][13]
• December 31, 1997 — Michael LeMoyne Kennedy died in a skiing accident in Aspen, Colorado.[1][4][5][6][13][14]
• July 16, 1999 — John F. Kennedy Jr. died when his plane he was piloting, a Piper Saratoga, crashed into the Atlantic Ocean off the coast of Martha's Vineyard due to pilot errorand spatial disorientation. His wife and sister-in-law were also on board and died.[4][5][6][14]
• September 16, 2011 — Kara Kennedy died of a heart attack while exercising in a Washington, D.C. health club. Kara had reportedly suffered from lung cancer nine years earlier, but she had recovered after the removal of part of her right lung.[23][24]
• May 16, 2012 — Mary Richardson Kennedy committed suicide on the grounds of her home in Bedford, Westchester County, New York.[14][25]
• July 13, 2012 — Kerry Kennedy sideswiped a tractor trailer on Interstate 684 in Westchester County while under the influence of zolpidem, which Kennedy stated she had mistaken for her daily thyroid medication.[26] She was charged with impaired driving but acquitted on all charges on February 28, 2014.[27]

Bravo for your fine research. Keep up the good work

 

[Percel]

Can you make a separate thread arguing the Kennedy tragedies compared to the Abletts, this is a condolences thread.....thanks.

Your colleague started it with an absurd statment

 

[Percel]

I would suggest you re-read the opening post. This thread was specifically and clearly opened as a condolences thread for the Abletts. Not for the above.

A bit of respect too difficult for you?

That other dude started it, talk to his mum.

 

[Percel]

Bravo for your fine research. Keep up the good work

Hey, i didnt ram the hyperbole in here, lunatic

 

[demondavey]

Not fair to speculate, but if you are familiar with the current conventions of how such deaths are reported, I'm sure you could piece it together.

Yes

 

[SterlingArcher]

Hey, i didnt ram the hyperbole in here, lunatic

Well you did use people crashing their cars under the influence or fleeing the scene as examples of 'tragedies' so yeah I think you did ram some hyperbole too.

 

[Percel]

Well you did use people crashing their cars under the influence or fleeing the scene as examples of 'tragedies' so yeah I think you did ram some hyperbole too.

I won the hyperbole, 2007 GF like

 

[Footy_Fan2007]

Your colleague started it with an absurd statment

Dick

 

[joe444]

It's played out terribly; the worst outcome. I firmly believe that Gold Coast didn't know about it. I can't believe the alternative.

 

[getgaff]

Condolences to Natasha's family and loves ones. Another young life cut far to short.

 

[Rennells]

Hey, i didnt ram the hyperbole in here, lunatic

Hai friend.

 

[Percel]

Hai friend.

Hai

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Gary Snr and Sue are the ones I feel for in all this. Parents should not have to bury their children. Heartbreaking stuff.

 

[kreglze]

Makes football seem so unimportant.

So sad for someone so young to go.

 

[Gone Critical]

For anyone who may be struggling from their own inner demons, please read this post.

Good information and I too pass on my condolences to the Abletts and their wider family and friends. This event will have wide reaching effects. It always does.

Without wanting to distract from the intention of the thread and also making an assumption that what has been reported in the papers as being correct then the problems are bigger again than those that Beyond Blue and the other groups quoted are likely to help.

The report says she suffered from a chronic psychotic type of illness, schizophrenia, in this case. Think of these as being disorders of thought where the depressive diseases are disorders of mood. The thought disorders are likely to be more incidious, chronic and unrelenting. They are life destroying and all the treatments are effective only to a point and have often major side effects. Suicide is more common, unpredictable and harder to prevent.

I know a lot of this because I lost my 30 something daughter just over 12 months ago in what I am going to assume is almost the same circumstances. It's obvious anyway but GC and Geelong just need to get the swap done now for Gary and his family's sake. I look at how this impacts on a family and support is everything. Also makes us all understand exactly why Gary wanted to come home nad how hard it would have been carrying this while all sorts of public conjecture was going on.

With psychotic illnesses there is so often little let up for the sufferer. One of my sons who was living with me and my daughter for most of her last 2 years told me after every time he arrived home if he didn't see her he walked through every room of the house just to check and be sure. Suicide you worry about all the time and then you look for signs all the time why it won't occur and than maybe things are improving. I thought my daughter was going through a better time when it happened.

When it happens you just can't believe it even though you worried about it all the time. The Abletts will be going through that now and wondering what more they could have done. Guilt will creep in because even though so much was done you will always wonder if you should have done more. I am sure Gary will ask himself what if I had come home last year. Even though the answer is they will have done everything and more those thought always creep in.

Anyway I hope I haven't distracted from the intention of the thread. I wish all the Abletts the best.