List Mgmt. Confessions of a player manager ...

[76woodenspooners]

... No, not Ricky Nixon

The folks over on the BigFooty Freo board managed to secure a candid and informal chat with player manager Tim Lawrence (manager of Freo player Lauchie Neale amongst others) about some of the stuff that happens behind the scenes.

It's a fascinating discussion, check it out here ...

A big kudos to the folks on the Freo board for getting this scoop!

FYI Seppo Magpie Girl Vicky Park Gone Critical

 

[76woodenspooners]

A very poignant excerpt from the interview with player manager Tim Lawrence on the Freo board ...

Q&A - Lachie Neale('s manager)

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Finally, I know there is always conjecture as to whether players actually read Big Footy posts.

If they are my boys, from very early on they are advised to keep well away from BF or any other football related blog sites. Why? Well whilst 95% of you all are great, positive and optimistic supporters, there are always a few, the trolls I believe, who can be quite nasty, personal and hurtful. When a player starts out, the average punter expects far too much from them and some decide to vent their negative and vitriolic beliefs in a public forum.

The AFL gig is hard enough without uneducated, opinionated and cowardly people flinging mud through cyberspace.

Arcassius asked me, with Gen Y being Gen Y, if some of them surely Google their name and yes, Gen Y being narcissistic they love seeing what is happening.

But for my boys, that’s that outside noise. The fire and ice we like to flow between.

The people I can’t suggest or advise as strongly are younger family members, close friends and sometimes partners. More than once have I had a mum call me almost in tears because of what someone has spitefully typed onto a blog site that they have inadvertently read or their younger son has seen. The most recent one was just over two weeks ago. A mother whose son is trying to find his feet in the AFL but expected to be a super star the day he walked in the front door of the club. She won’t ever go to a blog site again.

By and large the Dockers site is pretty good. You all seem to shut down the trolls quickly which is a credit to you. Sure, you're all allowed to have opinions and are allowed to talk about below par performances, terrible losses and other things we wish never happen to our football team. That’s what these sites are for.

But just be careful what you say and especially about the young kids whose faces are not scarred yet, whose outlook on the game is still fresh and untainted and whose skin has not yet thickened.

One day that could be your son, your nephew or your grandson everyone is talking about and giving personal opinion on, online.

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Q&A - Lachie Neale('s manager)

 

[Good_Old]

A very poignant excerpt from the interview on the Freo board ...

Q&A - Lachie Neale('s manager)



Q&A - Lachie Neale('s manager)

Does he manage Boyd? I bet that mum was Mrs Boyd.

 

[eddiebankbalance]

Thread title is mis-leading, however, it's possible I might take a look after the movie ends.

 

[76woodenspooners]

Does he manage Boyd? I bet that mum was Mrs Boyd.

No, it doesn't appear that Tim Lawrence's management company (stride sports) looks after Boyd.

FWIW, the Collingwood players in their stable are Fasolo, Maynard and Varcoe. Tim isn't necessarily their manager, Stride do have other managers.

 

[Quicky]

We've seen it very publicly on this forum with Jack Anthony's old man in the past. He had to stop posting for period because of it. And for every relative that is public on the forum, how many aren't? A good test, what would you be willing to say to someone's face? A timely reminder perhaps not to forget basic manners just because we're hiding behind the anonymity of an internet profile.

 

[muzzy2]

We've seen it very publicly on this forum with Jack Anthony's old man in the past. He had to stop posting for period because of it. And for every relative that is public on the forum, how many aren't? A good test, what would you be willing to say to someone's face? A timely reminder perhaps not to forget basic manners just because we're hiding behind the anonymity of an internet profile.

I miss Jajh's posts. He was a deep thinker, and great poster.

 

[Trickster]

Absolute fascinating read. One thing that caught my attention was this:

It is well known that Geelong, Hawthorn and Sydney are regarded as the best clubs who look after their players – go the extra mile to make sure the life balance and wellbeing of their greatest asset, their players, is highly valued and paramount to them. The senior players take in the younger ones like little brothers and teach them the values of the club and what it means to wear the guernsey. Is it a coincidence then that these clubs have also been the most successful of the modern era? I think not.

Makes me wonder why we're lacking in this regard?

 

[Nuffsaid]

I would say because a lot of our leaders in recent past have been somewhat self centred and had less focus on the greater good of the team. If you think of the antics of lumumba, shaw, jolly, beams, even cloke in his last contract negotiation, it's clear where their priorities were. Listening to Sam Mitchell talk on footy classified the other week, it's a massively different mindset which hawthorn have managed to create. That's why they can create an environment where their young stars just transition in without enormous pressure or expectation.

 

[Trickster]

I would say because a lot of our leaders in recent past have been somewhat self centred and had less focus on the greater good of the team. If you think of the antics of lumumba, shaw, jolly, beams, even cloke in his last contract negotiation, it's clear where their priorities were. Listening to Sam Mitchell talk on footy classified the other week, it's a massively different mindset which hawthorn have managed to create. That's why they can create an environment where their young stars just transition in without enormous pressure or expectation.

Great points. Our leaders were more disruptive types.

 

[Black_White]

Absolute fascinating read. One thing that caught my attention was this:

It is well known that Geelong, Hawthorn and Sydney are regarded as the best clubs who look after their players – go the extra mile to make sure the life balance and wellbeing of their greatest asset, their players, is highly valued and paramount to them. The senior players take in the younger ones like little brothers and teach them the values of the club and what it means to wear the guernsey. Is it a coincidence then that these clubs have also been the most successful of the modern era? I think not.

Makes me wonder why we're lacking in this regard?

Hoping N Balme can change this perspective.
Was a mistake to let him go because he stood up to Malthouse.