List Mgmt. Confirmed List Changes, Contracts, Key Dates - 2014

[Lion for Life]

Wouldn't Goose & Staker be UFA's once out of contract?

 

[jackess]

Wouldn't Goose & Staker be UFA's once out of contract?

You have to be with a club for 8 years to be a free agent.

 

[Lion for Life]

You have to be with a club for 8 years to be a free agent.

Don't think so, 8 years in the comp, shouldn't matter which Club they are played with

 

[dlanod]

Don't think so, 8 years in the comp, shouldn't matter which Club they are played with

jackess is right. It's based off your stay with your current club.

 

[Lion for Life]

jackess is right. It's based off your stay with your current club.

Pretty surprised by that really, what would be the case then if a player had played for say 11 years but with 3 different Clubs, are you saying that player won't be a FA?

 

[dlanod]

Pretty surprised by that really, what would be the case then if a player had played for say 11 years but with 3 different Clubs, are you saying that player won't be a FA?

Correct.

Edit: Well, unless the first two clubs are in his first three years and the last eight were with the same club.

 

[Lion for Life]

Correct.

Edit: Well, unless the first two clubs are in his first three years and the last eight were with the same club.

A good example would be Chris Judd then, and going off the system he doesn't qualify for FA until next year, I just find that surprising is all

 

[brizrider]

A good example would be Chris Judd then, and going off the system he doesn't qualify for FA until next year, I just find that surprising is all

I think FA is basically intended as a reward (to the player) for loyalty and service much like long-service leave is for regular employees. Judd received his reward/benefit when he changed clubs ($1 million + salary from Carlton)

 

[Lion for Life]

I think FA is basically intended as a reward (to the player) for loyalty and service much like long-service leave is for regular employees. Judd received his reward/benefit when he changed clubs ($1 million + salary from Carlton)

Yeah, it seems that way, although in my industry the long service leave is portable

 

[Last of the Roys]

At this point in time we have lost (delisted, traded, retired) the equal most number of players this post-season across both of the senior and rookie lists:

- Lions 12 players delisted, traded or retired
- Carlton 12
- Bulldogs 11
- Geelong 10
- Collingwood 10 (could end up being 9 with speculation Armstrong will be put on the rookie list)
- Gold Coast 10 (could end up being 9 with Broughton being rookied)
- Adelaide 9
- Essendon 9
- Richmond 9
- Saints 9
- Sydney 9
- Melbourne 9 (could end up being 8 with Tapscott rookied)
- North 9 (could end up being 8 with Delaney rookied)
- GWS 8
- Hawks 8
- Port 7 (will end up being 6 as they have said they will rookie list Tom Logan)
- West Coast 6
- Freo 5

http://www.afl.com.au/news/features/retirements-and-delistings.workstation

 

[Last of the Roys]

Assuming we do pick up Mitch Robinson - my reading of the info on this thread is that would mean we still have 1-3 senior spots left to fill and 3-5 rookie spots left to fill.

Is that correct?

 

[Dylan12]

MEANWHILE, the club will lodge paperwork with the AFL on Monday to officially make former Carlton hard nut Mitch Robinson a Lion.

 

[Ray Button]

Assuming we do pick up Mitch Robinson - my reading of the info on this thread is that would mean we still have 1-3 senior spots left to fill and 3-5 rookie spots left to fill.

Is that correct?

Looks right.

One of the implications here is that if either or both of O'Brien and Bourke are to be elevated to the Senior List, it would leave not much room for further Draft picks (in addition to those being used for Dawson, Harris & Clayton).

It's not inconceivable that the club could delist one more current player, which would necessitate a payout since I think all are contracted for at least 2015. Alternatively, a delisted player could be taken back up as a rookie, which has been done before.

Who could be likely candidates here?

 

[whatboutbob]

I think you're reaching, Ray. I'm pretty confident the club won't use more than 1 live pick (academy players, Clayton and potential rookie upgrades excepted).

 

[JasRulz63]

Agree, I reckon we go in with pick 67 as our only live pick, and Swann has said as much. I do wonder if we were in the situation where two players we rated highly (say top 40) were still available at 67 and 81 whether we would take them both given we have the room and didn't think they'd get to the PSD/RD.

It makes sense that Bourke and O'Brien stay on the rookie list until at least the start of the season given that we have the ability to elevate either/both at any time if we go in with 38 senior players. It gives us more flexibility if a few of our other rookies we draft were to push for senior selection.

 

[Caiphus]

The draft is still on? I'd almost forgotten about it completely...

 

[JasRulz63]

Out of interest, the average age of our senior list is 23.3 years and 62 games (as of 6/11/14).

 

[Skoob]

I'll pop it here as well, Cutler re-signs. http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/af...-extend-contract/story-fnp04gxa-1227119711702
Confirmed by Steele Tallon on Twitter.

 

[JasRulz63]

Thanks Skoob, updated the OP.

Leaves players out of contract next year:
Ryan Harwood
James Aish
Jed Adcock (UFA)
Rohan Bewick
Brent Staker
Claye Beams
Matthew Leuenberger (RFA)
Jonathan Freeman
Matt Maguire
Mitch Golby

Unsure when McGuane and Paine are off contract.

 

[Last of the Roys]

The final Club lists for 2015 are now on the AFL site:

http://www.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL Tenant/AFL/Files/2015finalclub lists.pdf
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-12-08/the-veterans-list

We have ended up with 40 players on our Senior list and 7 Rookies, so a total of 47. GWS is the only other Club to have 47 players across both categories. The rest of the clubs range from 44 to 46 players (Melbourne, Sydney and the Bulldogs each only have 44).

 

[JasRulz63]

Makes sense because the category B rookie slots are a lot more valuable to those from Qld/NSW because you can have Academy selections on there.

Final update to the OP done.

 

[Skoob]

Great work JasRulz63