List Mgmt. Confirmed List Changes, Key Dates - 2013

[JasRulz63]

Thought I'd pop up a thread to track the list changes this season.

Departures
Senior List (10 out)
Niall McKeever (delisted) (source)
Aaron Cornelius (delisted) (source)
Jesse O'Brien (delisted) (source)
Simon Black (retired) (source)
Todd Banfield (delisted) (source)
Sam Docherty (traded to Carlton)
Jared Polec (traded to Port Adelaide)
Elliott Yeo (traded to West Coast)
Patrick Karnezis (traded to Collingwood)
Billy Longer (traded to St. Kilda)

Rookie List (3 out)
Richard Newell (delisted) (source)
Callum Bartlett (delisted) (source)
Stephen Wrigley (delisted) (source)

Draft Picks
Pick 29 (to GWS, Polec trade)
Pick 45 (to Port Adelaide, Polec trade)
Pick 41 (to Geelong, West trade)
Pick 48 (to St. Kilda, Longer trade)

Arrivals
Free Agency/Trades (3 in)
Pick 22 (Polec trade)
Pick 25 (Longer trade)
Pick 28 (Yeo trade)
Pick 33 (Docherty trade)
Pick 34 (Polec trade)
Pick 41 (Longer trade) traded to Geelong (West trade)
Pick 48 (Polec trade) traded to St. Kilda (Longer trade)
Jackson Paine (Karnezis trade)
Trent West (traded for pick 41)
Luke McGuane (Delisted Free Agent) (source)


National Draft (7 in)
Pick 7 - James Aish
Pick 22 - Darcy Gardiner
Pick 25 - Daniel McStay
Pick 28 - Lewis Taylor
Pick 33 - Tom Cutler
Pick 34 - Nicholas Robertson
Pick 63 - Jonathan Freeman (Academy) (source)

Rookie Draft (3 in)
Pick 6 - Isaac Conway
Pick 23 - Zac O'Brien
Pick 69 - Archie Smith

Completed Trades
Sam Docherty to Carlton for #33 (source)
Jared Polec, #29 and #45 to Port Adelaide/GWS for #22, #34 and #48 (source)
Elliott Yeo to West Coast for #28 (source)
Patrick Karnezis to Collingwood for Jackson Paine (source)
Billy Longer and #48 to St. Kilda for #25 and #41 (source)
#41 to Geelong for Trent West (source)

Current Draft Picks
7, 22, 25, 28, 33, 34, 63*

List Housekeeping
Current List
Senior List (40 players currently)
1. Luke McGuane
2. Ryan Harwood
3. Brent Moloney
4. James Aish
5. Jack Crisp
6. Josh Green
7. Jed Adcock
8. Rohan Bewick
9. Ash McGrath
10. Daniel Rich
11. Pearce Hanley
12. Stefan Martin
13. Trent West
14. Brent Staker
15. Dayne Zorko
16. Jonathan Brown
17. Claye Beams
18. Nicholas Robertson
19. Jordan Lisle
21. Daniel Merrett
22. Marco Paparone
23. Matthew Leuenberger
24. Joel Patfull
25. Daniel McStay
26. Tom Cutler
27. Darcy Gardiner
28. Lewis Taylor
29. Andrew Raines
30. Jack Redden
31. James Polkinghorne
32. Sam Mayes
33. Michael Close
34. Jonathan Freeman
35. Ryan Lester
36. Matt Maguire
37. Patrick Wearden
38. Tom Rockliff
39. Jackson Paine
41. Mitch Golby
42. Justin Clarke

Rookie List (currently - 3 category A players, 3 category B players)
40. Isaac Conway
43. Nick Hayes
47. Zac O'Brien
44. Archie Smith (category B - QLD zone)
45. Jordan Bourke (category B - QLD zone)
46. Sam Michael (category B - QLD zone)
1 category A position vacant

NB: Senior list size = 38-40 players. Rookie list size = 4-6 category A (dependent on number on senior list), 3 category B (QLD zone, international)

Elevations
Justin Clarke to senior list (source)

New Numbers
Luke McGuane - #1
James Aish - #4
Jack Crisp - #5 (formely #47)
Trent West - #13
Nick Robertson - #18
Daniel McStay - #25
Tom Cutler - #26
Darcy Gardiner - #27
Lewis Taylor - #28
Jonathan Freeman - #34
Jackson Paine - #39
Isaac Conway - #40
Archie Smith - #44
Zac O'Brien - #47

Available Numbers
20

 

[JasRulz63]

Key off-season dates

Monday 23 September: 2013Brownlow Medal count

Saturday 28 September: 2013 Toyota AFL Grand Final

Friday 4 October: AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period Commences

Friday 4 October (by 2pm): AFL Father-Son Bidding Nominations; Academy Bidding Nominations lodged with AFL.

Monday 7 October (10am): Father/Son & Academy Players Bidding Meeting; AFL Trade Period Commences

Friday 18 October (5pm): Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period

Monday 21 October: AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer Three-Day Period Ends

Friday 25 October (at 2pm): AFL Trade Period Closes

Thursday 31 October (by 2pm): List Lodgement (1); Rookie Promotion to Primary List; Retained 2nd & 3rd Year Rookies; Scholarship Players; Alternate Talent Player Nominations

Friday 1 November: AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) Commences

Monday 4 November: Brisbane Lions 2014 pre-season training commences

Wednesday 6 November: Brisbane Lions depart for Arizona high-altitude training camp, thanks to Nature's Own

Friday 8 November: International Players Inclusion on Rookie List Form; Players Not Registered or Played for 3 years Rookie List Form lodgement

Wednesday 13 November: AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) Closes; Out of Contract Listed AFL Primary List Players Draft Nomination Form and Player Request for Removal from List Form Lodged with AFL

Thursday 14 November (by 2pm): List Lodgement (2)

Friday 15 November: AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) Commences

Monday 18 November: Delisted Primary List Draft Nomination Form Lodgement; Non–Retained Rookie Players Draft Nomination Form Lodgement; AFL Delisted Free Agency Period (2) Concludes

Thursday 21 November: AFL Draft Selection Meeting (Gold Coast Convention Centre).

Friday 22 November: AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) Commences

Monday 25 November: AFL Delisted Free Agency Period (3) Concludes; AFL Club List Lodgement (3); Notification of NSW and Qld Pre-Selected Rookies, Father-Son Pre-Selected Rookies, Academy Pre-Selected Rookies, International Scholarship Pre-Selected Rookies and Scholarship Pre-Selected Rookies Nominated if not selected in the Pre-Season Draft

Wednesday 27 November: AFL Pre-Season Draft Selection Meeting (11am); NAB AFL Rookie Draft Selection Meeting (11.10am)

Monday 2 December: Final List Lodgement

 

[JasRulz63]

Rumour mill
Only going to include some of the stories, not every single mention of Lions players in the media.

6/8 - Patrick Karnezis has told the Lions he wants out. Clubs including Collingwood circling. (AFL.com)

11/9 - Jared Polec has requested a trade back to South Australia (Herald Sun)

19/9 - Elliott Yeo asks for trade back to Western Australia. (ABC)

22/9 - Sam Docherty considering his future at the Lions. Met with Carlton, Essendon, the Western Bulldogs and North Melbourne. (Herald Sun)

26/9 - Hawks set to meet Billy Longer (The Age)

28/9 - Dean Warren has stated Brisbane have withdrawn from the race for Dustin Martin (Herald Sun)

30/9 - Luke Delaney has nominated St. Kilda as preferred club, also met with Brisbane and Carlton (AFL.com.au)

30/9 - Even after meeting with Justin Leppitsch, Sam Docherty has requested a trade back to Victoria, with Carlton leading the chase. (Herald Sun)

3/10 - Lions have dismissed talks of Tom Rockliff being traded, as rumours have arisen about a potential trade to Melbourne (AFL.com.au)

3/10 - Unrestricted free agent Luke McGuane signals his intention to play for Brisbane (AFL.com.au)

4/10 - Brisbane and Carlton are among the teams circling for Shane Savage (Herald Sun)

9/10 - Brisbane are reportedly exploring the acquisition of Jarrad Grant in a deal for Sam Docherty (The Age)

10/10 - Port Adelaide and Adelaide are both reportedly working on three way trade to acquire the services of Jared Polec (Herald Sun)

10/10 - Brisbane are increasingly hopeful Billy Longer will remain at the club after his suitors Hawthorn signed Ben McEvoy (AFL.com.au)

12/10 - Fremantle have reportedly conducted a medical with Elliott Yeo (The Age)

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

Do we all realise that Browny has declared he is coming back or is that old news?
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...f-brisbane-lions/story-fni5f4q3-1226726192906

 

[Mr Ripper]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...f-brisbane-lions/story-fni5f4q3-1226726192906

LOL

Could just imagine Hammo with puffs of smoke coming out of the top of his bonce.

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

LOL

Could just imagine Hammo with puffs of smoke coming out of the top of his bonce.

I have no idea but I'll just go along with it?

 

[ZoBlitz]

Just a thought but it might be worthwhile locking this thread and just keeping it as a one-stop shop for information updates to do with our list? Plenty of other threads for discussions.

Great idea, by the way!

 

[whatboutbob]

Just a thought but it might be worthwhile locking this thread and just keeping it as a one-stop shop for information updates to do with our list? Plenty of other threads for discussions.

Won't lock it so that everyone can contribute, but otherwise a good idea.

 

[JasRulz63]

Yeah, better if it's kept open so it isn't up to the mods to update it and we can all contribute. I can sense they may have their hands full in the next month!

I do need some help with the uncontracted players though, I'm sure we have more than that.

 

[dlanod]

Key off-season dates

Monday 23 September: 2013Brownlow Medal count

Saturday 28 September: 2013 Toyota AFL Grand Final

Friday 4 October: AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period Commences

Friday 4 October (by 2pm): AFL Father-Son Bidding Nominations; Academy Bidding Nominations lodged with AFL.

Monday 7 October (10am): Father/Son & Academy Players Bidding Meeting; AFL Trade Period Commences

Friday 18 October (5pm): Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period

Monday 21 October: AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer Three-Day Period Ends

Friday 25 October (at 2pm): AFL Trade Period Closes

Thursday 31 October (by 2pm): List Lodgement (1); Rookie Promotion to Primary List; Retained 2nd & 3rd Year Rookies; Scholarship Players; Alternate Talent Player Nominations

Friday 1 November: AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) Commences

Monday 4 November: Brisbane Lions 2014 pre-season training commences

Wednesday 6 November: Brisbane Lions depart for Arizona high-altitude training camp, thanks to Nature's Own

Friday 8 November: International Players Inclusion on Rookie List Form; Players Not Registered or Played for 3 years Rookie List Form lodgement

Wednesday 13 November: AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) Closes; Out of Contract Listed AFL Primary List Players Draft Nomination Form and Player Request for Removal from List Form Lodged with AFL

Thursday 14 November (by 2pm): List Lodgement (2)

Friday 15 November: AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) Commences

Monday 18 November: Delisted Primary List Draft Nomination Form Lodgement; Non–Retained Rookie Players Draft Nomination Form Lodgement; AFL Delisted Free Agency Period (2) Concludes

Thursday 21 November: AFL Draft Selection Meeting (Gold Coast Convention Centre).

Friday 22 November: AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) Commences

Monday 25 November: AFL Delisted Free Agency Period (3) Concludes; AFL Club List Lodgement (3); Notification of NSW and Qld Pre-Selected Rookies, Father-Son Pre-Selected Rookies, Academy Pre-Selected Rookies, International Scholarship Pre-Selected Rookies and Scholarship Pre-Selected Rookies Nominated if not selected in the Pre-Season Draft

Wednesday 27 November: AFL Pre-Season Draft Selection Meeting (11am); NAB AFL Rookie Draft Selection Meeting (11.10am)

Monday 2 December: Final List Lodgement

According to http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-08-21/afl-confirms-date-changes the PSD/RD are on the 26th of Nov, and free agency finishes on the 25th of Oct.

 

[Elixuh]

Is it likely that J. Clarke will be elevated for 2014?

 

[Last of the Roys]

Is it likely that J. Clarke will be elevated for 2014?

You would have to think it is very likely.

 

[JasRulz63]

According to http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-08-21/afl-confirms-date-changes the PSD/RD are on the 26th of Nov, and free agency finishes on the 25th of Oct.

Interesting, wonder how the dates work around the matching of RFA offers. You'd assume the three day period would have to finish before the end of the trade period to let the team's trade the RFA's if they refuse. Also, teams don't have much time to deal their FA compensation picks too since that's usually after the FA period is over.

Also the article I linked to for key off-season dates (the brown title is a link) is published on 16/9 whereas the article you linked to is from the 21/8. I wonder if those are the correct dates.

EDIT: Here's one posted on the AFL website today: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-09-29/key-draft-and-free-agency-dates

 

[iBeng]

Is it likely that J. Clarke will be elevated for 2014?

Almost a Lock I would think, he played more games this year than most Rookies do in their 2-3 years at a club.

 

[dlanod]

Interesting, wonder how the dates work around the matching of RFA offers. You'd assume the three day period would have to finish before the end of the trade period to let the team's trade the RFA's if they refuse. Also, teams don't have much time to deal their FA compensation picks too since that's usually after the FA period is over.

Also the article I linked to for key off-season dates (the brown title is a link) is published on 16/9 whereas the article you linked to is from the 21/8. I wonder if those are the correct dates.

EDIT: Here's one posted on the AFL website today: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-09-29/key-draft-and-free-agency-dates

I was wondering that myself. Looks like they've fixed that up a bit and changed the dates around (again) in the time since.

 

[WhiteLionFeva]

Almost a Lock I would think, he played more games this year than most Rookies do in their 2-3 years at a club.

I would be locking him into a three year deal given what is happening with our other youngsters.

 

[WhiteLionFeva]

Given the academy nomination/bidding process happens early, hopefully it won't be long before we know which of Tickner, Conway, Smith etc we will be going for and what they will cost in terms of picks.

 

[POBT]

Given the academy nomination/bidding process happens early, hopefully it won't be long before we know which of Tickner, Conway, Smith etc we will be going for and what they will cost in terms of picks.

All done by next Monday by the looks of things.

 

[Fenway]

I would be locking him into a three year deal given what is happening with our other youngsters.

Clark was invited to train at Brisbane in the leadup to the Rookie Draft in 2011, and one day before he was scheduled to fly up, the Crows called him and invited him to train with them. Despite being the club closest to home, not to mention the club he had grown up as a fanatical supporter of, Clark told the Crows thanks but no thanks because he had already made the commitment to Brisbane, and he was incredibly grateful for the opportunity Brisbane had offered him when no-one else would.

If you ask me, he's got a bit of the "Tom Rockliffs" about him - country kid with good country values. Had a bit of homesickness when he first arrived which is only natural for an 18-year-old, but I think he is very much old-school when it comes to 'homesickness' - real men get over it. I don't think he'd be going anywhere.

Not that I don't support giving him a three-year deal with his progress and height. Lock him down Lions!

 

[chopperduck]

The academy bidding was the first thing i looked for, can't wait for next Monday when we will know what picks we are forced to use for our academy kids. I read it as Friday being that we nominate players that we wish to draft from the academy, so that will also be interesting to see who/how many we actual name. Not sure if we name them on Friday if that means we then have to draft them, or if that is still determined on Monday though.

 

[Chasing the Dream]

Clark was invited to train at Brisbane in the leadup to the Rookie Draft in 2011, and one day before he was scheduled to fly up, the Crows called him and invited him to train with them. Despite being the club closest to home, not to mention the club he had grown up as a fanatical supporter of, Clark told the Crows thanks but no thanks because he had already made the commitment to Brisbane, and he was incredibly grateful for the opportunity Brisbane had offered him when no-one else would.

If you ask me, he's got a bit of the "Tom Rockliffs" about him - country kid with good country values. Had a bit of homesickness when he first arrived which is only natural for an 18-year-old, but I think he is very much old-school when it comes to 'homesickness' - real men get over it. I don't think he'd be going anywhere.

Not that I don't support giving him a three-year deal with his progress and height. Lock him down Lions!

I spoke to Justin one night about homesickness, and if he had any desire to return to South Australia, he just laughed.... "WHy would I want ot be in SA now when I would have 3 jumpers on and still cold?? I love Queensland"

When he said this, I was in very little doubt that he was as genuine as you would get.

 

[Chasing the Dream]

On our trip to Arizona.

I am really disappointed that only the 5+ years players are going. Doesn't send a great message IMO. Rumours of player rifts between the older and younger players are around, and it seems like they are treated differently.

25 players going, surely a sponsor could have been found for the remaining players.... although by reading the exodus thread, we may have less than 25 payers left on our list

 

[JasRulz63]

They're actually all going now.

Link

Leppitsch had his first win as head coach yesterday when he convinced the club to take a full touring party to Arizona for their preseason training camp.

“We're all on board with the fact that we want to bring our club closer together and to bring everyone to Arizona was one step to doing that,” he said.

 

[Haso]

Clark was invited to train at Brisbane in the leadup to the Rookie Draft in 2011, and one day before he was scheduled to fly up, the Crows called him and invited him to train with them. Despite being the club closest to home, not to mention the club he had grown up as a fanatical supporter of, Clark told the Crows thanks but no thanks because he had already made the commitment to Brisbane, and he was incredibly grateful for the opportunity Brisbane had offered him when no-one else would.

If you ask me, he's got a bit of the "Tom Rockliffs" about him - country kid with good country values. Had a bit of homesickness when he first arrived which is only natural for an 18-year-old, but I think he is very much old-school when it comes to 'homesickness' - real men get over it. I don't think he'd be going anywhere.

Not that I don't support giving him a three-year deal with his progress and height. Lock him down Lions!

Good to see you back Fenway.

 

[James North]

Justin Clark is the real deal.

Loved his MRP incident - absolute commitment and just went after the ball to play on immediately as if nothing happened.