Connor Rozee

[csharp]

Nice moving of the goalposts. It was never argued that Rozee was a lesser talent than Walsh, just that he hadn’t overtaken him yet.

Have no issue with anyone rating Rozee over Walsh, but the disrespect for what he did last year is insane. It’s going to take a talent like Rowell to get close to what he did.

What are you talking about? I immensely respect his ability to consistently miss targets by foot.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Lol

Maybe if you don't think football exists outside of a player's Dream Team score. And even then he's no Michael Barlow.

Disingenuous.

Barlow and Kelly have him covered.

The best season as an 18 year old ever. Greene was also similarly great.

 

[csharp]

The best season as an 18 year old ever. Greene was also similarly great.

Sure, if we're judging players based on missed targets.

 

[Schulzenfest]

Disingenuous.

Barlow and Kelly have him covered.

The best season as an 18 year old ever. Greene was also similarly great.

I said that 'only if you think football doesn't exist outside of a player's Dream Team score' thing as a joke, but if the next best first year player example you can come up with is Toby Greene, maybe it wasn't one.

If you think that Sam Walsh (or Toby Greene, for that matter) had more impact on football games last year than the likes of Chris Judd and Joel Selwood did in their first years, then I don't know what to tell you.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

What are you talking about? I immensely respect his ability to consistently miss targets by foot.

Walsh goes at 64% efficiency which is in line with most of the elite mids of the game. Rozee goes at 68%, but Walsh is kicking the ball a lot more than Rozee.

You’ve shown yourself to have no clue.

 

[iameviljez]

Referring to Rowell?

I hate extreme comparisons but Rozee reminds me of a young Gary Ablett.

Has absolutely no weaknesses as a player, and is already impacting games in a big way in only his second year.

Reminds me more of a young Fyfe. Ablett Jr isn't incapable above his head, but he's not spring-heeled like Rozee.

 

[csharp]

Walsh goes at 64% efficiency which is in line with most of the elite mids of the game. Rozee goes at 68%, but Walsh is kicking the ball a lot more than Rozee.

You’ve shown yourself to have no clue.

Why are you using disposal efficiency instead of kicking efficiency?

By the way, Dale Morris has a higher kicking efficiency than most gun midfielders. Must be a better kick than them, yeah?

Naturally kids like yourself don't take degree of difficulty per disposal into consideration. Rozee is a far better kick than Walsh, it's not even close.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

I said that 'only if you think football doesn't exist outside of a player's Dream Team score' thing as a joke, but if the next best first year player example you can come up with is Toby Greene, maybe it wasn't one.

If you think that Sam Walsh (or Toby Greene, for that matter) had more impact on football games last year than the likes of Chris Judd and Joel Selwood did in their first years, then I don't know what to tell you.

I think he was much better than Judd in year one. Judd didn’t even win the rising star.

Selwood played alongside the likes of Ablett, Bartel, Corey, Chappy and didn’t have as much impact as you remember, as great as he was.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Why are you using disposal efficiency instead of kicking efficiency?

By the way, Dale Morris has a higher kicking efficiency than most gun midfielders. Must be a better kick than them, yeah?

Naturally kids like yourself don't take degree of difficulty per disposal into consideration. Rozee is a far better kick than Walsh, it's not even close.

If you can find me the degree of disposal difficulty stat I’ll be happy to have look.

 

[Sonny Hayes]

The disrespect for Walsh is astonishing, he isn't as skillful as Rozee with the ball but he doesn't need to be. Both are terrific young players and the need to tear down a player to highlight how good another one is one of the worst qualities of Big Footy.

Different styles of players and both are going to be elite players for years to come.

 

[Coops93]

He’s a legitimate young Michael Voss.

My Poppa said the same thing to me last night. He's a man in an 18 yr olds body, the way he stands up in tackles and shrugs off contact is that of a 24 yr old. He was pushing West Coast players around and going head to head with Shuey and coming out on top. It's remarkable stuff.

Reading the reports last year of those saying he's better than Walsh I couldn't help but think it was hyperbole, but after his first 2 games I'm actually inclined to agree!

 

[Arsene Wenger]

The disrespect for Walsh is astonishing, he isn't as skillful as Rozee with the ball but he doesn't need to be. Both are terrific young players and the need to tear down a player to highlight how good another one is one of the worst qualities of Big Footy.

Different styles of players and both are going to be elite players for years to come.

This is correct. I love Rozee as a port fan as he is super exciting. Walsh is exceptional too. Diff players.

 

[glengowan]

Connor Rozee is already a seriously good player. Speed, balance, skill, nous.

Arguably the greatest footballer of all time came from the Iron Triangle and Rozee may be following in his footsteps.

 

[ohhhBigMalcho]

fantastic player and talent, along with Butters and Dhursma that draft will go down as one of the best in Ports existence

 

[Coops93]

Why are you using disposal efficiency instead of kicking efficiency?

Kicking efficiencies respectively - Sam Walsh 53% and Rozee 57%. Not really that much difference, yet there's a narrative that Walsh is a woeful kick and Rozee is immensely skilled.

I'm surprised how many people say Walsh is a bad kick, a bit of groupthink going on imo. Skill wise he's not a bad kick, he's quite good actually, but where he does struggle is when he has to kick quickly under pressure. He has a habit of not looking and just blasting forward. But if he has time to hit up a target he will make it more often than not. But that's not kicking ability, that's composure. I'll agree if that's a criticism one is making on his kicking, but saying he's purely a bad kick and misses targets, ironically, misses the target.

 

[Adz2332]

and to think i was concerned that we were reaching a bit to get rozee due to him being south australian...
Have now learnt to trust our recruiters, we have had a pretty good hit rate over the 3 or 4 years now

 

[2006_Eagles]

My Poppa said the same thing to me last night. He's a man in an 18 yr olds body, the way he stands up in tackles and shrugs off contact is that of a 24 yr old. He was pushing West Coast players around and going head to head with Shuey and coming out on top. It's remarkable stuff.

Reading the reports last year of those saying he's better than Walsh I couldn't help but think it was hyperbole, but after his first 2 games I'm actually inclined to agree!

Yep he's definitely better than Walsh. He's like a better kicking Dangerfield. Mostly inside bull but no slouch on the outside too. Add him to the likes of Cripps, Fyfe, Oliver, Yeo and Danger obvs. The best mids in the comp to watch because they are so dynamic

Will be an all time talent

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Some idiot in last year's rising star award didn't even give Rozee a single vote. Can't remember who that was, but i recall thinking that voter was a peanut/clueless.

 

[Adz2332]

Yep he's definitely better than Walsh. He's like a better kicking Dangerfield. Mostly inside bull but no slouch on the outside too

Will be an all time talent

sadly i thought the same thing about Wingard.
But i do think Rozee takes his football a lot more seriously than Wingard ever has

 

[2006_Eagles]

sadly i thought the same thing about Wingard.
But i do think Rozee takes his football a lot more seriously than Wingard ever has

I was actually talking about Rowell as the poster was referring to him

 

[Adz2332]

I was actually talking about Rowell as the poster was referring to him

ah whoops!

 

[2006_Eagles]

ah whoops!

Rozee is super good too tho

 

[LFC2010]

Some idiot in last year's rising star award didn't even give Rozee a single vote. Can't remember who that was, but i recall thinking that voter was a peanut/clueless.

Chris Johnson gave him the 1 vote from last year... everyone else had him either 5 or 4 votes.

 

[iameviljez]

Selwood played alongside the likes of Ablett, Bartel, Corey, Chappy and didn’t have as much impact as you remember, as great as he was.

Both a help and a hinderance - so while Walsh didn't have the same help that Selwood did, he also had all the time he could ever want in the engine room, while Selwood was more so out at wing or half-forward.

 

[chickentendies]

Connor Rozee was also our leading goal kicker in his first year. Dude is a jet and fits a need for Port moreso than Walsh.

In saying that, would kill to have a Walsh in the team as well. They're both different types of players and I think the fact that Walsh is being criticized like he's been in the system for 5+ years is indicative of his quality.