Bumped "Conspiracies" found to be true

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U.S. pushing Israel to stop assassinating Iranian nuclear scientists..wasnt that a conspiracy theory?
•March 4, 2014 • 4 Comments

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-pushing-israel-to-stop-assassinating-iranian-nuclear-scientists/
As Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu flies to Washington – due to arrive on Sunday (March 2), to prepare for talks with President Barack Obama at the White House on Monday – it’s clear that there are several points of friction between Israel and the United States.
The two countries are allies, but their leaders often differ on the details of key issues: Israel’s peace talks with the Palestinians, America’s nuclear talks with Iran, how to approach political turmoil in Egypt, what might be done to limit Syria’s horrible civil war, and a broader issue of whether the Middle East sees President Obama as a powerful, influential leader.
Recently, as I sought to update a book I co-wrote about the history of Israel’s intelligence agencies, sources close to them revealed that they felt pressure from the Obama Administration – more than a hint – to stop carrying out assassinations inside Iran.
Although Israel has never acknowledged it, the country’s famed espionage agency – the Mossad – ran an assassination campaign for several years aimed at Iran’s top nuclear scientists. The purpose was to slow the progress made by Iran, which Israel feels certain is aimed at developing nuclear weapons; and to deter trained and educated Iranians from joining their country’s nuclear program.
At least five Iranian scientists were murdered, most of them by bombs planted on their cars as they drove to work in the morning. Remarkably, the Israeli assassins were never caught – obviously having long-established safe houses inside Iran – although several Iranians who may have helped the Mossad were arrested and executed.
In addition to strong signals from the Obama Administration that the U.S. did not want Israel to continue the assassinations, Mossad officials concluded that the campaign had gotten too dangerous. They did not want their best combatants – Israel’s term for its most talented and experienced spies – captured and hanged.
President Obama – much to the discomfort of Israeli officials – is pursuing negotiations with Iran. The United States is one of the P5+1 nations, continuing to talk with the Iranians about rolling back some of their nuclear potential.
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Actually , while the plot to kill Lincoln actually happened it was only partially carried through. The plot was actually to assassinate Lincoln, Johnson (the vice president), Seward (who was attacked but escaped through good luck) and others; to decapitate the administration.

That's right, that's what really happens with conspiracies. Contrary to what people want to believe, in real life situations people panic, make mistakes, or simply lose their nerve and don't follow through (both happened with Lincoln and Franz Ferdinand). The other thing is people can't keep their mouth shut. Watergate was another conspiracy too. They do happen, but they are far more mundane, error-prone and bungled than people want to think.
 

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The key word is conspiracy. As in, there is a deliberate plot.

We are lied to. A lot. They lie about capabilities and claim "national interests". Notice it isn't "people's interest".

A conspiracy was exposed because there has been a deliberate plot (tax expenditure) to spy on a nations own private citizens. The infrastructure didnt just mistakenly appear in our pockets.

It has been deliberately designed.

Just because we now "officially know" its there does not make it acceptable. But people are conditioned now. We dont need to just accept it because we crave it.
I think it was Mel Gibson that said in the movie " Conspiracy Theory ", " just because you're paranoid doesn't mean you're wrong ".
 
we invaded a country because saddam had WMDs.
conspiracy thorists said theres no WMDs its b/s.
we kill over 1 million irakis, country is contaminated with D/U.
And we still havnt found the WMDs
what is there to explain?

Innocent mistake.
 
we invaded a country because saddam had WMDs.
conspiracy thorists said theres no WMDs its b/s.
we kill over 1 million irakis, country is contaminated with D/U.
And we still havnt found the WMDs
what is there to explain?

Nah, I agree with you entirely on that one.
 
we invaded a country because saddam had WMDs.
conspiracy thorists said theres no WMDs its b/s.
we kill over 1 million irakis, country is contaminated with D/U.
And we still havnt found the WMDs
what is there to explain?

Apparently saddam also believed he had that capability.

For myself, the countries air force was already anhialated and the fact the allies aircraft patrolled the skie every day told ne that what bush blair and howard were saying was always compete bullshit

They had traded with and appeased saddam for decades, it fitted the wests need for oil. The reason this had to change is because they saw his maniac sons as loose cannons and forsaw the day they took power from saddam.

To me the clear issue of wmd was the us and britush diasporia so completely opposite from mainstram europe. As china gains power and the us loses it expect europes dislike for the us to be more and more apparent
 

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I think it was Mel Gibson that said in the movie " Conspiracy Theory ", " just because you're paranoid doesn't mean you're wrong ".

You mean this guy?

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we invaded a country because saddam had WMDs.
conspiracy thorists said theres no WMDs its b/s.
we kill over 1 million irakis, country is contaminated with D/U.
And we still havnt found the WMDs
what is there to explain?

That's not a conspiracy theory, there was some fairly widespread scepticism at the time that there were any WMDs to find there, and that became more and more apparent as time went by. They simply lied about it and hoped they'd be lucky enough to find one.

A conspiracy theory around that would be if they did find WMDs, many people would run with the idea that they planted them.
 
You mean this guy?

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That's not a conspiracy theory, there was some fairly widespread scepticism at the time that there were any WMDs to find there, and that became more and more apparent as time went by. They simply lied about it and hoped they'd be lucky enough to find one.

A conspiracy theory around that would be if they did find WMDs, many people would run with the idea that they planted them.
no worries dude! spin it how ever you like.
 
In most conspiracy theories, there has been attempts to cover up or maintain order, these cover ups are easily proven.

That leaves the original issue which can then be interpreted as a smallish thing or accident, but the cover up prompts people to imagine much bigger conspiracies

An example I am thinking of is the princess diana death. Which at the time pretty much filled every newspaper front to back in britain. Its lost historical significance since
 
In most conspiracy theories, there has been attempts to cover up or maintain order, these cover ups are easily proven.

That leaves the original issue which can then be interpreted as a smallish thing or accident, but the cover up prompts people to imagine much bigger conspiracies

An example I am thinking of is the princess diana death. Which at the time pretty much filled every newspaper front to back in britain. Its lost historical significance since

Perfect example. Ask 100 people on the street how she died. You'll get "media", "paparrazzi", "Royal Family wanted her dead" or some such ludicrous idiocy.

Just say three phrases back - speeding, drunk driver, no seat belt.
 
Perfect example. Ask 100 people on the street how she died. You'll get "media", "paparrazzi", "Royal Family wanted her dead" or some such ludicrous idiocy.

Just say three phrases back - speeding, drunk driver, no seat belt.

There was a cover up though. Im surprised thers not a thread in here because the papers had nothing else in them for weeks
 
Not to mention botched ambulance and emergency response, inadequate passive safety in the underpass, paparazzi chase, british secret agents all over it, death threats from the landmine lobby, huge amounts of mibile phone traffic etc etc

I seriously doubt it was a royal family assassination plot but there are plenty of unanswered questions
 


Gaddafi was onto something.

Warning, the language is a bit hard to listen to. Starts from about the 5 min mark
 
Not to mention botched ambulance and emergency response, inadequate passive safety in the underpass, paparazzi chase, british secret agents all over it, death threats from the landmine lobby, huge amounts of mibile phone traffic etc etc

I seriously doubt it was a royal family assassination plot but there are plenty of unanswered questions

Hmm, no there aren't. The driver was pissed, she wasn't wearing a seat belt, the car crashed. It's what happens. It's why drink driving is frowned upon.
 
Hmm, no there aren't. The driver was pissed, she wasn't wearing a seat belt, the car crashed. It's what happens. It's why drink driving is frowned upon.

Particularly if you are in some high speed chase with paparrazi and god knows who, but youd like that bit to be ignored i take it

No chase, no accident

Of course it was stupid to take part in the chase


I get itthough, some people ate intersted in exploring theories, some enjoy what they see as smart internet put downs to complete strangers, i guess we know which is you
 
MKULTRA is one that comes to mind.
The Iran Contra affair, so CIA drug trafficking.
Cointelpro.
Operation Mockingbird.
The testing of various viral, bacterial and chemical agents on both US citizens and those in other countries (Chile), without knowledge or consent (Tuskegee experiment etc.).
Operation AJAX.
Corporate/fascist plot to overthrow FDR.
Operation Gladio.
The findings of the church committee.
Operation Northwoods.
National City Lines buyout.
Operation Paperclip.

Conspiracy, or the need to conspire is an ingrained part of the human social psyche and a common group or herd behavior. Various groups, from governments, businesses, intelligence agencies, all the way down to regular joes conspire to achieve certain ends, all the time.

The thing is, larger "conspiracy theories", which have been proven true are in present tense usually just viewed as historical facts. At the time these ideas may have appeared shocking, unlikely, or the realm of dark rumor, but with the benefit of hindsight they seem sometimes even mundane when compared to the greater legacy of human mischief and trouble.

This is not to say we should suspend critical thinking, but healthy scepticism should run both ways. Governments, large corporate interest and military organisations have proven to be inherently untrustworthy in the past, which is probably a product of any large and overt concentration of power. That old adage about power corrupting, or evil coming from the exercising of power without consequence.

Definitely people should be far more vigilant, suspicious and less trusting of authority. People or organisations don't necessarily become more scrupulous, ethical or responsible with greater accumulation of influence or wealth and it is important to remember legitimacy is often an artifice, or a tool, that is as useful at hiding or enabling wrongdoings , as it is productive behavior.
 

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