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Opening post has been updated. With no mention of Henderson, this presumably means he is contracted for 2018. Impey yet to be added.

Expiry by year:

2017: Surman+, Hartung, Gibson^, Stewart, Fitzpatrick^
2018: Henderson*, Willsmore, O'Rourke, Heatherley, Roughead, Frawley, Howe, Miles, Pittonet, Puopolo, Vickery, Nash, Lewis, Brand, Hanrahan, Morrison, Whitecross, Schoenmakers, Burgoyne, Lovell, Duryea
2019: Clarkson, Gunston, Stratton, Shiels, Will Langford, O'Meara, Birchall, Glass, Hardwick, McEvoy, Cousins, O'Brien, Ceglar
2020: Rioli, Smith, Burton, Sicily, Impey$
2021: Breust, Mitchell#

* Actual contract expiry unknown
$ The club has not confirmed the length of Impey's contract. It is speculated that Impey signed a three year contract with Hawthorn (his contract with Port Adelaide expired in 2018).
^ Players have announced their retirement at the end of the 2017 season.
+ Has already returned to South Australia and will be delisted during list lodgment.
(r) rookie-listed player - generally on a 1-year contract
# In July 2017, the Herald-Sun reported that Hawthorn signed Tom Mitchell to a five year contract. The Hawks have not confirmed the length of Mitchell's contract.
 

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Less salary counted towards the salary cap
Thanks for the reply but surely not after the increase in the salary cap and the recent retirements/trades... though I am yet to come up with a better reason.

EDIT: I think I found the reason..."Up to three rookies can be retained, with the player's permission for a second or third season, with the others having to be either delisted or elevated to the primary list at the time of the National Draft".

With Surman and Fitzy retiring the Hawks only had 2 cat A rookies left: Cousins and Hanrahan (Nash being cat B). This allowed the Hawks to retain Glass as the 3rd rookie. Next year the Hawks can swap Glass with someone on the Senior list who is underperforming but still valued. Sound plausible?
 
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Thanks for the reply but surely not after the increase in the salary cap and the recent retirements/trades... though I am yet to come up with a better reason.

EDIT: I think I found the reason..."Up to three rookies can be retained, with the player's permission for a second or third season, with the others having to be either delisted or elevated to the primary list at the time of the National Draft".

With Surman and Fitzy retiring the Hawks only had 2 cat A rookies left: Cousins and Hanrahan (Nash being cat B). This allowed the Hawks to retain Glass as the 3rd rookie. Next year the Hawks can swap Glass with someone on the Senior list who is underperforming but still valued. Sound plausible?
It’s not necessarily the case that we can’t afford to pay him within the cap. It’s possible - if not likely - that the club is front ending as many other players contracts as they can while also only paying the bare minimum of the cap.

There was also that rule the AFL brought in a few years back where if you paid under the cap by like 95% one year you were then able to pay over it by like 105% the next year.

That in conjunction with further retirements/delistings next year means we could have the most cap space available of all clubs going into next seasons free agency and trade periods.
 

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2018: Henderson*, Willsmore, O'Rourke, Heatherley, Roughead, Frawley, Howe, Miles, Pittonet, Puopolo, Vickery, Nash, Lewis, Brand, Hanrahan, Morrison, Whitecross, Schoenmakers, Burgoyne, Lovell, Duryea
Wow that will be a really hard decision for our list managers on who to keep. Burgers will probably retire and I feel like Vickey will get dropped but I have no clue about anyone else.
 

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Wow that will be a really hard decision for our list managers on who to keep. Burgers will probably retire and I feel like Vickey will get dropped but I have no clue about anyone else.
Surely every club would have around about that many players coming out of contract every year. Most of them will be re-signed by start of the year, a few during the start of the year and the balance delisted/traded.

If you have 44 players on a list and hand out maximum 3-4 year deals, then 15 or so players would always be out of contract and on your re-sign list
 

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Surely every club would have around about that many players coming out of contract every year. Most of them will be re-signed by start of the year, a few during the start of the year and the balance delisted/traded.

If you have 44 players on a list and hand out maximum 3-4 year deals, then 15 or so players would always be out of contract and on your re-sign list
I guess you're right. Still being all those names makes me wonder what is going to happen to players like Puopolo and Roughead.
 

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This season surely the 4 players that would get a new contract if they'r keen on playing next year are Roughy, Chip, Poppy & Silk?

Howe most like closest to getting a new contract & then the rest have to prove that they'r good enough for a new contract.
 
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Frawley apparently has played enough games for the fifth year option on his contract to be triggered. His contract now extends to the end of the 2019 season.

Apparently we gave Roughead a contract extension back in 2016. According to the Herald-Sun, his contract expires at the end of the 2019 season.
 
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Thanks streetspirit

I believe this is now an accurate list of forthcoming contract expiry:

Coach: Alastair Clarkson
Expiry: 2019
Announced: 22 April 2016
Source: http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/2016-04-22/clarkson-signs-until-end-of-2019

2. Jarryd Roughead
Expiry: 2018*
Announced: 18 Dec 14
Source: http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/hawthorn/news/2014-12-18/hawk-for-life-roughead-signs-until-2018
NB: In March 2018, the Herald-Sun reported that Hawthorn extended Roughead's contract to the end of 2019 but Hawthorn has not publicly confirmed the extension
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/...s/news-story/461bc978035ad4322b21febcb1ae492b

3. Tom Mitchell
Expiry: 2021
Announced: Club has not formally announced the length of Mitchell's contract. On 12 July 2017, the Herald-Sun reported that Mitchell's contract ran to the end of 2021.
Source: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...n/news-story/27a811768f71915f69bbda11768b74af

4. Jarman Impey
Expiry: 2020#
Announced: n/a; Adelaide Advertiser reported Impey signed a three-year contract with Hawthorn following his trade.
Source: https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/spor...n/news-story/c13b8bc429f14437994849808c097d9f

5. Ryan Burton
Expiry: 2020
Announced: 17 July 2017
Source: http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/2017-07-17/burto-puts-pen-to-paper

6. James Sicily
Expiry: 2020
Announced: 22 August 2017
Source: http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/2017-08-22/sis-signs-on

7. Ben McEvoy
Expiry: 2019
Announced: 15 August 2017
Source: http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/2017-08-14/big-boy-bound-to-hawks

8. Taylor Duryea
Expiry: 2018
Announced: 9 October 2017
Source: http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/2017-10-09/doc-deal-done

9. Shaun Burgoyne
Expiry: 2018
Announced: 28 August 2017
Source: http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/2017-08-28/silk-signs-on-for-17th-season

10. Jaeger O'Meara
Expiry: 2019
Announced: TBD
Source: TBD

11. Brendan Whitecross
Expiry: 2018
Announced: 8 February 2017
Source: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-02-...hitecross-signs-new-deal-to-avoid-free-agency

12: James Frawley
Expiry: 2018*
Announced:
Source: Graham Wright Trade Week Radio 2014
NB: In March 2018, the Herald-Sun reported that Hawthorn had extended Frawley's contract to the end of 2019, but Hawthorn has never confirmed the contract extension
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/...s/news-story/461bc978035ad4322b21febcb1ae492b

13. Jonathan O'Rourke
Expiry: 2018
Announced: The club announced on 26 October 2017 that O'Rourke has been offered a contract for the 2018 season
Source: http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/2017-10-26/hawks-confirm-list-changes

14. Grant Birchall
Expiry: 2019
Announced: 8 December 2016
Source: http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/2016-12-08/birchall-resigns

15. Blake Hardwick
Expiry: 2019
Announced: 14 August 2017
Source: http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/2017-08-14/hardwick-here-to-stay

16. Isaac Smith
Expiry: 2020
Announced: 23 December 2016
Source: http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/2016-12-23/isaac-smith-resigns

17. Daniel Howe
Expiry: 2018
Announced: 23 November 2015
Source: http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/2015-11-23/young-gun-daniel-howe-resigns

18. Jonathon Ceglar
Expiry: 2019
Announced: 7 September 2017
Source: http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/2017-09-07/ceglar-recommits

19. Jack Gunston
Expiry: 2019
Announced: 15 April 2016
Source: http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/2016-04-15/gunston-signs-on-until-end-of-2019

20. Dallas Willsmore
Expiry: 2018
Announced: The club announced on 26 October 2017 that Willsmore will be de-listed but (unless taken by another club) will be re-drafted as a rookie.
Source: http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/2017-10-26/hawks-confirm-list-changes

21. Kieran Lovell
Expiry: 2018
Announced: 24 September 2017
Source: http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/2017-09-24/lovell-signs-on

22. Luke Breust
Expiry: 2021
Announced: 23 March 2017
Source: http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/2017-03-23/breust-resigns

23. Tim O'Brien
Expiry: 2019
Announced: 22 August 2017
Source: http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/2017-08-22/to-happy-at-hawthorn

24. Ben Stratton
Expiry: 2019
Announced: 13 August 2015
Source: http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/2015-08-13/stratton-signs-threeyear-extension

25. Ryan Schoenmakers
Expiry: 2018
Announced: 28 August 2017
Source: http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/2017-08-28/schoey-signs-on-for-2018

26. Liam Shiels
Expiry: 2019
Announced: 4 Apr 15
Source: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...ign-new-deals-with-hawks-20150404-1mdymx.html

27. Marc Pittonet
Expiry: 2018
Announced: 20 April 2016
Source: http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/2016-04-20/pittonet-extends-contract

Tyrone Vickery
Expiry: 2018
Announced: 10 October 2016
Source: http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/2016-10-10/vickery-becomes-a-hawk
NB: Vickery officially retired as a Hawk at the end of the 2017 season, but Hawthorn must carry Vickery's contract in its Total Player Payments for 2018

28: Paul Puopolo
Expiry: 2018
Announced: 25 August 2016
Source: http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/2016-08-25/puopolo-commits-to-contract-extension

29. Will Langford
Expiry: 2019
Announced: 12 August 2015
Source: http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/2015-08-12/langford-resigns-for-four

30. Kaiden Brand
Expiry: 2018
Announced: 31 October 2016
Source: http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/2016-10-31/kaiden-brand-resigns-with-hawthorn

31. Ricky Henderson
Expiry: TBC
Announced: TBD
Source: TBD

32. David Mirra (r)
Expiry: 2018
Announced: N/A
Source: As a rookie selection, Mirra receives a one-year contract under the collective bargaining agreement.

33. Cyril Rioli
Expiry: 2020
Announced: 16 December 2016
Source: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...-hawks-until-end-of-2020-20161216-gtcw9f.html

34. Kurt Heatherley
Expiry: 2018
Announced: The club announced on 26 October 2017 that Heatherley has been offered a contract for the 2018 season
Source: http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/2017-10-26/hawks-confirm-list-changes

35. Harry Morrison
Expiry: 2020
Announced: 6 June 2018
Source: http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/sites/Hawthorn/news/2018-06-06/young-hawks-sign-on

36. Dylan Moore
Expiry: 2019
Announced: n/a
Source: As a 2017 national draftee, Moore received a two-year contract

37. Jackson Ross
Expiry: 2019
Announced: n/a
Source: As a 2017 national draftee, Ross received a two-year contract

38. James Worpel
Expiry: 2019
Announced: n/a
Source: As a 2017 national draftee, Worpel received a two-year contract

39. Mitchell Lewis
Expiry: 2020
Source: http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/sites/Hawthorn/news/2018-06-06/young-hawks-sign-on

40. Harrison Jones (R)
Expiry: 2018
Announced: n/a
Source: As a 2017 rookie draftee, Jones received a one-year contract

41. Oliver Hanrahan (r)
Expiry: 2018
2016 rookie draftee
Source: http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/2017-08-02/young-hawks-sign-on

42. Teia Miles
Expiry: 2018
Announced: 4 August 2016
Source: http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/2016-08-04/two-more-for-miles

43. Changkuoth Jiath (r)
Expiry: TBD
Announced: n/a
Source: n/a
NB: Jiath joined Hawthorn through the 2018 rookie draft Next Generation Academy selection - contract length has not been confirmed, but assumed to be one year

44. Conor Glass (r)
Expiry: 2019
Source: http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/2017-08-02/young-hawks-sign-on
NB: Glass will be rookie-listed in 2018 with a "promise of an elevation to Hawthorn's senior list" in 2019.

45. Conor Nash (r)
Expiry: 2018
Source:

46. James Cousins (r)
Expiry: 2019
Source: http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/2017-08-02/young-hawks-sign-on

Expiry by year:

2018: Henderson*, Willsmore, O'Rourke, Heatherley, Frawley^, Howe, Miles, Pittonet, Puopolo, Nash, Lewis, Brand, Hanrahan, Morrison, Whitecross, Schoenmakers, Burgoyne, Lovell, Mirra, Jones, Roughead^, Jiath%
2019: Clarkson, Gunston, Stratton, Shiels, Will Langford, O'Meara, Birchall, Glass, Hardwick, McEvoy, Cousins, O'Brien, Ceglar, Worpel, Ross, Moore,
2020: Rioli, Smith, Burton, Sicily, Impey(), Morrison, Lewis
2021: Breust, Mitchell#

* Actual contract expiry unknown
^ Herald-Sun reported in March 2018 that the contracts of Frawley and Roughead were extended to the end of 2019, but Hawthorn has not confirmed the contract extensions
% Jiath is a Next Generation Academy rookie-listed player. Contract length unconfirmed but expected to be 1-year, in line with other rookie-listed players
() Hawthorn has not confirmed the length of Impey's contract; at the time of his trade from Port Adelaide, the Adelaide Advertiser reported Impey signed a three year contract with Hawthorn
(r) rookie-listed player - generally on a 1-year contract
# In July 2017, the Herald-Sun reported that Hawthorn signed Tom Mitchell to a five year contract. The Hawks have not confirmed the length of Mitchell's contract.
 
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With Rioli retiring. Him and Hawthorn would mutually agree to tear up the next 2 years of his contract I suppose.
 

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2018: Henderson*, Willsmore, O'Rourke, Heatherley, Frawley^, Howe, Miles, Pittonet, Puopolo, Nash, Brand, Hanrahan, Whitecross, Schoenmakers, Burgoyne, Lovell, Mirra, Jones, Roughead^, Jiath%
Taken the above list (removing Morrison and Lewis) and either Hawthorn are doing their thing behind the scenes or we have a bucketload of players about to come out of contract.

You'd think Howe, Schoenmakers, Nash, Miles and Pittonet would all be currently in negotiation or signed up already in the background. All of the younger rookies - Hanrahan, Jones and Jiath all seem lively enough that they'd get another year.

Strange no announcements this season (even the Roughy/Frawley extensions were only in the Herald Sun and never confirmed by the club) besides Morrison or Lewis. Playing smoke and mirrors?

EDIT: Dixie Flatline Need to add Duryea to the 2018 expiry list above and remove Morrison/Lewis who in your original list above are in both 2018 and 2020 expiry.
 
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Taken the above list (removing Morrison and Lewis) and either Hawthorn are doing their thing behind the scenes or we have a bucketload of players about to come out of contract.

You'd think Howe, Schoenmakers, Nash, Miles and Pittonet would all be currently in negotiation or signed up already in the background. All of the younger rookies - Hanrahan, Jones and Jiath all seem lively enough that they'd get another year.

Strange no announcements this season (even the Roughy/Frawley extensions were only in the Herald Sun and never confirmed by the club) besides Morrison or Lewis. Playing smoke and mirrors?
Yep, unusual for us to have that many players out of contract by Round 20.

Did Ratten not get a contract for 2019?
 
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