List Mgmt. Contract, Trade & Draftee Discussion, 2023: Picks 1,20,34,39,53 ,58

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[AsterixTheGaul]

It's well reported that Melb want Ried

Will be bloody interesting what they offer

I have heard Melbourne really want Harley but that Duursma is close as their next big target and that pick 5 likely becoming pick 6 is not going to cut it. Hawks will swoop at their R1 pick just ahead of Dees.

If we took a Norf offer of picks 2 and 3 for 1

• we deal with Dees with 6 and 14 for 3 and agree to leave pick on Duursma for them
• we then deal with Dogs for 11 giving them 21, 35, 54 and 59

Go to draft with:
Pick 2 = McKercher
Pick 6 = Curtin (O'Sullivan is fallback which I would prefer anyway)
Pick 11 = Murphy
Pick 14 = best available slider from top 10
Pick 19 = ZZ Man if we do not get O'Sullivan
40 = ???

 

[Dark Sharks]

DEV ALREADY OUR BEST PLAYER again.

 

[Obeanie1]

Just taking Twomey's latest power rankings and excluding the NGA and F/S and moving them all back 1 as the Norf pick 3 compensation feels likely, picks 5 (4), 6 (5) and 16 (15) would get you Curti, Sanders and Archer Reid. Yuk!!!!


Just take Reid under that scenario.


The only worthwhile offer I see is coming from Norf. He offers bums on seats like those tin rattlers need. He offers them class when their club has become a rabble of late.


Any Godfather offer has to get us McKercher PLUS one of O'Sullivan or Murphy PLUS something late teens or future R1.


Some may say I am in la la land but a godfather offer is something that is one sided and something you cannot refuse. Fair or reasonable? I think not.

4, 5 and likely gets McKercher / Curtin possibly both. And 14 gets one of O'Sullivan, Murphy or ZZ.

And push comes to shove we haggle a bit more as well. Say add Dees F1st for our F2nd.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Oliver to the Suns for pick 4 plus something?

Dees then have 4, 5 and 15 plus 2nd rounders and all their 2024 picks.

If they held that they would get our attention.

Suns don't need Oliver.

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[eaglevision]

Unless we get offered 2 and 3 in a straight swap for 1, I’m backing ROB and team to hold firm and take Reid.

 

[dkalphy]

Do you not think what am i doing with myself, how pathetic talking to a bunch of strangers on an irrelevant forum, about a sport that isn't even a real sport?

Bro you 100% got bullied at school

 

[Goroyals22]

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[AsterixTheGaul]

4, 5 and likely gets McKercher / Curtin possibly both. And 14 gets one of O'Sullivan, Murphy or ZZ.

And push comes to shove we haggle a bit more as well. Say add Dees F1st for our F2nd.

I hit save too soon - has been edited

 

[Obeanie1]

Just send Oliver and 5 to us then.

Pick 4 PLUS something else. He isnt being traded for just pick 4.

He's also too old for our group.

Plus he's a total flog who missed a period of time out 'injured' and, if this rumour is true, the Dees want to move him on for some reason. Injury? Behaviour? What?

 

[TerryFilk]

It’s of the surprise to no one but Twomey has officially confirmed the Roos are targeting pick -
1.

I really hope we don’t fall for a quantity over quality offer.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Bro you 100% got bullied at school

And to make it even worse, I was homeschooled.

 

[Cuzz09]

2,3 and F1st minimum

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[AsterixTheGaul]

And to make it even worse, I was homeschooled.

We need to get you some help

 

[Mulldogg]

Phil Davis

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Phil Davis

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33

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197cm

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94kg

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1.7

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55.5

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55.5

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actually showing he’s got half a clue in our KP list analysis. Very refreshing but shows he’s only very recently out of the game.

 

[Jed Clampet]

Trade next years first and pick 53 with Geelong for pick 7 this year and their 1st rounder next year.
It’s fun making up trades that won’t happen.

 

[Obeanie1]

2,3 and F1st minimum

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They dont have 3 yet.

And wont be surprised if they dont get it.

 

[Keys]

It’s Ralph so grain of salt areas, but it’s also the first time I’ve seen a Vic journo put forward a trade for pick 1 that’s somewhat realistic

Picks 2 and 5 is thereabouts, albeit it’s dependent on North getting ahead of the Bulldogs for the Suns pick and also pick 3 for McKay

1 - Reid (NM)
2 - Walters (GC)
3 - McKercher (WC)
4 - Curtin (NM)
5 - Duursma (Hawthorn)
6 - O’Sullivan (WC)

If we take Curtin instead of McKercher it’s looks a bit different as you’d expect North to go with Curtin using 3 leaving us with maybe Sanders at 6

Not quite 2 and 3 but it isn’t far off

North Melbourne is certain to trade next year’s pair of end-of-first round draft picks and seems the only club with a genuine shot at trading up for this year’s No. 1 overall pick.
The Roos have been handed a trio of end-of-first-round selections by the AFL as part of an assistance package – one this year and two in the 2024 national draft.


Those 2024 selections came with a warning from the AFL that they would review them based on the Roos ladder position in a clear signal the league wanted North Melbourne to trade them for established talent.

Under the guidelines, the Roos do not have to trade them for a player to ensure they are not at risk of the AFL taking the picks back.

Instead they can trade them to a rival club for picks in this year’s draft or even similar selections in next year’s draft to ensure they are off limits to the AFL.

But with a raft of picks – likely three first-rounders this year and three next year as they await Ben McKay

32

Ben Mckay

Age

26

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202cm

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104kg

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7.5

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3.7

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3.8

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M

2.7

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T

1.7

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77.2

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D

7.5

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K

4.5

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3.0

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M

2.5

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T

1.5

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MG

88.5

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D

7.0

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K

3.4

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3.6

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M

2.4

3star

T

2.0

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MG

67.8

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free agency compensation – they have ample opportunities to offer the Eagles a trade package for the No. 1 overall pick.

Clubs believe West Coast will not trade out the No. 1 pick – and rights to Reid – unless they can secure the No. 2 pick which would see them select homegrown talent Daniel Curtin.

If North Melbourne has picks 2, 3 (Ben McKay

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Ben Mckay

Age

26

Ht

202cm

Wt

104kg

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Def

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Season

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7.5

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K

3.7

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M

2.7

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77.2

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D

7.5

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4.5

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3.0

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M

2.5

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1.5

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88.5

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7.0

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3.4

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3.6

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.0

4star

MG

67.8

1star

compensation), 15 and 20 as well as three first-rounders next year they could also attempt to secure the Suns’ first-round pick.

That pick is currently No. 4, but would shuffle back to five following Hawthorn’s initial pick with the McKay free agency compensation.

The Roos would have to offer a superior package to the Dogs’ current offer, which is picks 10, 17 and a future first-rounder, with the Suns giving back a future third-rounder.

But if they could trump that deal for the Suns current pick 4, they could end up with picks 2, 3 and 5 after Ben McKay

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Ben Mckay

Age

26

Ht

202cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

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K

3.7

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HB

3.8

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M

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77.2

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D

7.5

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K

4.5

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3.0

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M

2.5

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88.5

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2.4

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2.0

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67.8

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departs, with the Eagles retaining pick one.

The Roos could then offer two and five for the No. 1 overall pick, meaning they would secure Vic Country mid-forward Reid and another elite junior this year while the Eagles take Curtin and another early talent.

It would be a huge amount to give up for Reid, but Alastair Clarkson has made clear he is intent on securing multiple early picks in multiple drafts to shoot up the draft order.

 

[Obeanie1]

It’s of the surprise to no one but Twomey has officially confirmed the Roos are targeting pick -
1.

I really hope we don’t fall for a quantity over quality offer.

Thats good to hear.

Means that if we do trade pick 1 we have ourselves a bidding war bewteen North and the Dees.

 

[TerryFilk]

It’s Ralph so grain of salt areas, but it’s also the first time I’ve seen a Vic journo put forward a trade for pick 1 that’s somewhat realistic

Picks 2 and 5 is thereabouts, albeit it’s dependent on North getting ahead of the Bulldogs for the Suns pick and also pick 3 for McKay

1 - Reid (NM)
2 - Walters (GC)
3 - McKercher (WC)
4 - Curtin (NM)
5 - Duursma (Hawthorn)
6 - O’Sullivan (WC)

If we take Curtin instead of McKercher it’s looks a bit different as you’d expect North to go with Curtin using 3 leaving us with maybe Sanders at 6

Not quite 2 and 3 but it isn’t far off

The only thing I hate about the 2 and 5 for 1 trade is I know we’d take Curtin at 2 instead of McKercher and at 5 we’d probably be stuck with Watson or Caddy, maybe Sanders.

It’s just not as nice as it sounds.

 

[Cuzz09]

Are we allowed to come out and say "we aren't trading pick 1"

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[garlic munchers]

Nobody prevaricates better than Barrett, his use of velutinous language is inimitable.

How is that even a language?

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Not taking Reid will probably trump delisting Adamson for me. I don't care about what we would get.

Reid, Hewett and Ginbey is it.

 

[amazingjoshy]

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Pretty good summary

 

[TerryFilk]

Not taking Reid will probably trump delisting Adamson for me. I don't care about what we would get.

Reid, Hewett and Ginbey is it.

If we trade Reid away with Dan Curtin being the big prize, I don’t think I’ll get over it lol.

 

[MeltMan]

Nobody prevaricates better than Barrett, his use of velutinous language is inimitable.

is that a perfectly cromulent sentiment?